Meridia/Wellbutrin/Slim-Fast progress

"Mark" wrote in message news:5ra6c.6586

I'll concede... I'm not as closed to the idea of "reversing" my day as it
may have originally seemed. It's just that I guess, right now, with the
weather we've got up here, it makes it especially hard to motivate myself
to
get up and go out in the cold weather first thing in the morning. It's
harsh. Once the weather gets nicer, I guess I'll get up to catch some sun
in
the morning, and then do a workout. But I'm just closed to the idea now
because there's nothing to do outdoors in the mornings and it's so cloudy.

When it isn't cold and cloudy... Will it be too sunny to exercise? Will it
be too warm to exercise? Will the weather be so nice that you stayed up
even later and couldn't make time to get up and exercise? I guess I don't
understand why your ONLY method of exercise is go outside and freeze in the
cloudy weather. Instead of making excuses, find a different way to make it
happen. Why come here and ask advice if the only thing you would do is to
find reasons to discount that advice??

Also, at one point, I used to try and wake up and do aerobics like you did
at noon, but unfortunately, aerobics seems to have gone by the wayside
these
days. All they have these days is boxerkick, etc. classes, none of which
carry the same amount of fun as traditional aerobics. The closest thing, I
think, is Jazzercise, and I haven't had a chance to try it because all the
classes are in the suburbs in church basements.

Who cares what society thinks about a certain method of exercise? The
majority of people don't exercise. Why do you have to leave the house to
exercise? Buy a video or dvd and exercise at home. There a quadzillion
different types of tapes or dvds out there to choose from.


That's a good thing to hear then... Because that's not a lot earlier than
my
last meal. There's a lot of controversy around eating late meals, and I
know
it's less desireable, but I think that as along as it's not too much, and
the right kind of food, people should be fine. Personally, one of my main
problems is that I can't go to sleep on an empty stomach.

Your stomach would be completely empty after not eating for 2-3 hours? Why
can't you fill it up with high fiber fruits or veggies. Not only will you
not have an empty stomach, but you will have a nice surprise in the morning.

It's true, I'll concede again - it does making going to sleep harder... I
either have to take Imovane or clonazepam to help me sleep... and that
always makes it harder to wake up. It's a viscous cycle.

You can't keep relying on hard core prescription drugs to help you live your
life.... do what other young men do to help you fall asleep: Whack off, or
are your hands broken??

I'll admit... most of this stuff I've read up upon. But I'm concerned
about
how to find the right kind of carbs if I'm going to be making shakes for
myself. For example, tonight, I went shake shopping, after realizing my
Slim
Down shakes have 25g of sugar in them. I was shocked. But I couldn't find
anything that suited me. The closest thing I found was Boost High Protein
which has 15g protein, and still 33g carbohydrates... but it did not say
how
much of the carbs were fibre and how much were sugar!!! Argh! I'm assuming
most of it is sugar, unfortunately... But it's better than the Slim Fast
because its 5g less carbs over all and 10 g+ protein.

Research shakes online and buy different types from there. Most good health
food websites have nutritional data. You can buy a wide variety at cheaper
prices then a drug store. If you are unsure about a brand, etc... post it
here for advice. It took me 2 seconds to find that glucerna website that I
posted for you in a later post for the nutritional value....

I'm going to do that from now on then. I liked Cheeze Whiz because it is
easy to spoon out. But I only use a tiny, tiny bit each meal right now, so
it is not TOO bad at this point...

Excuses again. Cheeze Whiz isn't real food. You sound like a smoker who
thinks it is ok to have just 1 cig a day.

Well, I have been exercising for about 3-4 weeks straight now (not missed
a
day) and a total of 7-8 weeks since the beginning of this latest routine.
I
started the routine at about 165 lb. But I can't keep my heart rate below
160 easily. I tend to focus on form on the elliptical to tone the leg
muscles. But my thing about heart rate zones is that I want to burn most
of
my calories from FAT, so doesn't that mean I have to keep it around 70% of
my heart rate? Anymore than that and I'm not being as efficient a fat
burner, I thought.

I used to think the same thing, but was told in this group a couple of weeks
ago not to go by the 70% thing. I would suggest interval training.... going
at a high speed/tension for 3-4 mins, then low speed/tension for 3-4 mins...
alternating between higher and lower heart rates. Do a search for some
posts from earlier this month to find that interval training thread that I
started asking about the 70% heart rate question.

Thanks so much for all your help... How are you doing in terms of your
exercise and weight now?

I am doing great... I went from being a smoking 284 unfit woman to
non-smoking 210 reasonably fit woman in 7 months. I work out 4-5 days a
week on cardio equiptment, free weights and weight machines. I never
thought I would find the time or energy to do this 7 mos ago when I started.
I stopped making excuses and realized that if I didn't make some positive
health changes, I wouldn't see 40.

Don't take my post the wrong way... I do want to see you get to your goal
and be healthy. However, it would be to your benefit to listen to what some
of us here are actually talking about. I think you found a group that is
well experienced with what you are going thru and have alternative healthy
ways of fixing their lives. Good luck.

284/210/???

182/153/145

"Perple Gyrl" wrote in message
...
I agree with Dally here... I frequently work 9-11 hours a day in a fast,
high stress environment where I am lucky to take a restroom break.
Finding
time to exercise is EASY when you know how to plan your day. I've been
reading most of Mark's posts, and it does sound like he wants the easy
way
out and not make any real, actual lifestyle changes with the long term in
mind.

My regular work day is 10 hours 4 days a week. I still find time to stop
at Curves and exercise 2-3 days each week. If you want to exercise you'll
find the time.







"Dally" wrote in message

Still all excuses.

I work 9 am until 9 pm most days this time of the year. I make healthy
food choices and exercise because I choose to. When you choose to you
will be able to do it. When you don't choose to you won't be able to
fit it in.

My wish for you is to gain some self-awareness.

Dally

Mark wrote:

Well, it is easier for someone in a relationship to live that kind of
lifestyle. But I'm trying to lose weight to FIND a relationship, so sleeping
at 9 when I get home from work won't allow me to even socialize.

Wow, you're a bottomless pit of excuses!

Seriously, I don't mean to be so down on you, but you are sounding
pretty silly.

Dally, who met her husband before 9 pm when he was working the evening shift

Mark wrote:

"Dally" wrote:
Mark wrote:
I was really struck by the 600 calorie dinner. Three chicken breasts?!?

What is wrong with a 600 calorie dinner? Is that a lot, or a little?

A lot in a 1200 calorie day.

How much is three chicken breasts work out to be in protein and in calories?
I don't even know...

You should. Try logging your food at www.fitday.com. Pay particular
attention to the proportion of calories coming from different
macronutrients. No one recommends getting over 60% of your calories
from carbs. Are you? (I prefer getting 40-45% from carbs, myself.)

Yeah, I think I am going to have to do something about it. First shake...2
PM... then I get really dizzy with a huge tired crash by about 5:30, and
then I have to have another... and then I crash at like 8, until I have a
chance to get home after 9 and have more...

The huge dizzy tired crash at 5:30 is caused by the Slimfast. If you
had a snack at 2 pm that had a better glycemic load you wouldn't have
that crash. That's the whole point of understanding why you want to
avoid high glycemic foods. A better snack would be a half cup of skim
milk cottage cheese mixed with a dite of yogurt for flavor. Or maybe an
apple sliced up and dipped in a tub of peanutbutter.

I was a bit down on your case in another post saying you're whining
about excuses. I tend to be a bit harsh and I apologize if that isn't
motivating to you. It's just that we hear a lot of people explaining
why they CAN'T make sensible changes. All of us know that you can when
you want to.


That is fine. I am the same way to my friends. If there's one thing about
me, I am not a hypocrite, and I don't try to talk about things without doing
something about them. Mind you, for a moment, you did sound just like my
mother.

LOL, I think I *might* be your mother!

Dally

Exactly.

"Beverly" wrote

My regular work day is 10 hours 4 days a week. I still find time to stop
at Curves and exercise 2-3 days each week. If you want to exercise you'll
find the time.







"Dally" wrote in message

Still all excuses.

I work 9 am until 9 pm most days this time of the year. I make
healthy
food choices and exercise because I choose to. When you choose to you
will be able to do it. When you don't choose to you won't be able to
fit it in.

My wish for you is to gain some self-awareness.

Dally