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"Crafting Mom" wrote in message
... Actually, it's the opposite for me. As soon as low-carb became "the norm", I stopped doing it grin. Ahhhh, so, you're among these people who just love to go against the trend, just for kick of not being like others? I can relate to that, like when I told my boss I was bisexual just because I knew he was homophobic. Then, just being willingly in opposition to the norm gives enough momentum to do whatever you want. Though one might wonder if always going against the norm is really a way to experience true freedom. Besides, going daringly enough against the norm usually gains you enough popularity to socialize easily enough... But the problem with most people and peer presure is that peers usually do not even have to make it felt. Actually, in most cases, peers do not really care one way or another. Peer presure is mostly self inflicted, because *you* feel *you* do not fit unless you do as others - reguardless of what others actually think. Yes, it's stupid and untrue. But like paranoia, the fact that it's all in your head doesn't change how you experience it. |
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 20:21:07, Lictor
wrote: Actually, snapping and bingeing is probably what ends most unsuccessful diets. Which is a pity, really. Far more to the point, if that happens, to work out *why* it happened, and to accept that one's goal might take another week to reach.... And then to spend a few days eating more carefully. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday snaps! |
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 20:21:07, Lictor
wrote: Actually, snapping and bingeing is probably what ends most unsuccessful diets. Which is a pity, really. Far more to the point, if that happens, to work out *why* it happened, and to accept that one's goal might take another week to reach.... And then to spend a few days eating more carefully. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday snaps! |
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Lictor wrote:
"Crafting Mom" wrote in message ... Actually, it's the opposite for me. As soon as low-carb became "the norm", I stopped doing it grin. Ahhhh, so, you're among these people who just love to go against the trend, just for kick of not being like others? Not at all... it's just coincidence. I tried a certain way of eating *when I needed it*, independent of others persuasion, and it just *happened* to be different from other people's. k |
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Lictor wrote:
"Crafting Mom" wrote in message ... Actually, it's the opposite for me. As soon as low-carb became "the norm", I stopped doing it grin. Ahhhh, so, you're among these people who just love to go against the trend, just for kick of not being like others? Not at all... it's just coincidence. I tried a certain way of eating *when I needed it*, independent of others persuasion, and it just *happened* to be different from other people's. k |
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Lictor wrote:
"Crafting Mom" wrote in message ... Actually, it's the opposite for me. As soon as low-carb became "the norm", I stopped doing it grin. Ahhhh, so, you're among these people who just love to go against the trend, just for kick of not being like others? Not at all... it's just coincidence. I tried a certain way of eating *when I needed it*, independent of others persuasion, and it just *happened* to be different from other people's. k |
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Lictor wrote:
Why? What's so special in a former fat person vs a normal person? With all due respect, while you do communicate in English very fluently, and are obviously very intelligent, there's a bigger picture you seem to be missing. I see it in your responses to both ig's and my posts. What Ignoramus was saying is that a former fat person needs to more or less keep on doing the same thing that enabled them to lose the weight. To just say "oh I got my number now", and go back to their *old habits*, which *made them fat* is quite stupid. It does not mean they even HAVE TO stick to that diet for the rest of their lives. Just that they've now learned how to not get fat again. Any changes one makes to their life have to be permanent. As in, never again back to the old way, even if the changes vary from time to time. |
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Lictor wrote:
Why? What's so special in a former fat person vs a normal person? With all due respect, while you do communicate in English very fluently, and are obviously very intelligent, there's a bigger picture you seem to be missing. I see it in your responses to both ig's and my posts. What Ignoramus was saying is that a former fat person needs to more or less keep on doing the same thing that enabled them to lose the weight. To just say "oh I got my number now", and go back to their *old habits*, which *made them fat* is quite stupid. It does not mean they even HAVE TO stick to that diet for the rest of their lives. Just that they've now learned how to not get fat again. Any changes one makes to their life have to be permanent. As in, never again back to the old way, even if the changes vary from time to time. |
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Lictor wrote:
Why? What's so special in a former fat person vs a normal person? With all due respect, while you do communicate in English very fluently, and are obviously very intelligent, there's a bigger picture you seem to be missing. I see it in your responses to both ig's and my posts. What Ignoramus was saying is that a former fat person needs to more or less keep on doing the same thing that enabled them to lose the weight. To just say "oh I got my number now", and go back to their *old habits*, which *made them fat* is quite stupid. It does not mean they even HAVE TO stick to that diet for the rest of their lives. Just that they've now learned how to not get fat again. Any changes one makes to their life have to be permanent. As in, never again back to the old way, even if the changes vary from time to time. |
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"Crafting Mom" wrote in message
... Yes, that's conditionning. The mind is a very powerful thing. It also can convince people that cultural traditions are more important than well-being. Some people, believe it or not, are not on a "weird diet" for the sake of simply getting their number on a scale and losing weight, some people actually do have biological issues with certain types of ingredients. That would be true if people actually *needed* to be on that weird diet. However, I believe many people are more ready to get convinced that they have some "biological issue" than to admit they were just eating way too much. I mean, our cultural way of eating has remained the same for decades, yet mass obesity is a very recent phenomenon. The only change to our way of eating has been that a) people have been listening to what dietetian have told them about the proper way of eating b) we eat more and more American style food. And the "logical" conclusion of all this is that our way of eating is getting us that and that we should listen to dietitian and eat what they tell us to eat or that we should follow some diet imported from the USA. Doesn't that sound slightly insane to you? Even in the case of the USA, your traditionnal way of eating hasn't caused mass obesity until recently. Yet, dietitians and diet pros alike seem convinced your traditionnal cuisine is evil and that you should move further from it. To me, it seems the more we listen to dietitians and diet experts, the fatter we get. Maybe it's not the food that is wrong, it's how we eat it and how much of it we eat. If one wants to limit their friends to "only those whose bodies can tolerate the same things I can", well, then that's their loss. I don't think we made some evolutionnary leap in the past 20 years (start of mass obesity here) that caused one fourth of the population to suddenly become intolerrant to some food that the whole population used to be able to eat. I have friends who eat all kinds of stuff, and I have eaten *with* them, and abstained from food around them, as they have around me (sometimes they are simply NOT HUNGRY .. what am I going to do? say, "I don't care if you're about to barf if you eat another bite, show me some cultural savvy and EAT IT!?") Not being hungry is already covered for Most people will eat lightly before a meeting in order to actually be hungry. And if you're still not hungry, all that is required of you is to *taste* the food, you're not asked to eat ten pounds of it. I happen to have friends who are on diets with everything from vegan to indian, to kosher to swine on a spit, to low-carb, to high-carb, and yet, we all manage to co-exist at the same get-togethers where food is served. Go figure. Same here, except proper manners call for the guest to adapt, not for the host. So, I eat vegan when I visit vegans, I eat kosher when I visit Jews and if there were any low carb people in this country, I would eat low carb too. But, when I have Jew friends at home, I'm not expected to cook kosher for them - I will just make my regular food and avoid bathing the whole meal in pork fat. Same with vegans, I will cook whatever I cook, and they will eat whatever they can eat; I will usually cook fish if they eat fish, otherwise they will just look at us carnivores eating our meat. I might go as far as cooking tofu if they're really some special guests, like they travelled half the world to visit. But for them to bring them own meal would be extremelly rude. If you can't tolerate some food, you just don't eat it and eat more of something else. If your tolerance to food is so low that you can't eat anything from a normal meal, either you have a diet designed to keep you away from normal people, or you have a rare medical condition that would not make it safe for you to eat with normal people anyway for fear of food contamination... |
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