Frustration

From: Damsel in dis Dress

(Snipped) I ate spaghetti. (Spaghetti is not low-carb) Bloated up like the
Goodyear
blimp...I already know that potatoes (also not low-carb) bloat me and make me
miserable...I'm going to have to keep my carbs within the 100
that are still considered low-carb, just because some major carb sources
make me sick.

You could have a systemic Candida (yeast) problem that carbs feed. A common
side effect of that is bloating. I wouldn't be surprised to hear you also get
heartburn after eating refined carbs, particularly sweets. One cause of reflux
is thought to be stomach bloating from feeding Candida, causing pressure in the
stomach that pushes the valve to the eosophagus open and allows acid to flow
back up. My reflux and flatulance (late stage of bloating), went away on low
carb.

Hen.

From: Damsel in dis Dress

(Snipped) I'm just sick and tired of salads and broccoli being my primary
carbs. I
want more variety, and I want fruit! And I want to lose weight!

Carol, probably too upset to go back to sleep

There is LIFE beyond food, literally.

As a nurse I've seen many, many diabetics lose limbs, go blind, have kidney
failure, heart problems, die, you name it because they couldn't or wouldn't
stick to diet plans, test their glucose levels often, and follow advice.
Sometimes even that isn't enough. Why? Because it is very difficult to
discipline oneself when you don't have immediate pain to remind you that
something is out of whack. Diabetes is basically self-treated. I wish I could
take you on my rounds to show you the results. I wish I could tell you that my
mother isn't currently dying from those occasional "treats," she loved so well
and the rest of the family loves to bring her since "one" jelly doughnut, extra
potatoe, plate of pasta won't make any difference in the long haul. She might
have 3 months left now with great suffering over the last 5 years.

It's not that I don't have sympathy for your feelings of carb deprivation, I
just pray you can do it. II's a mindset, and if you want to be healthier and
live longer, you have to pay the dues. I know, because I'm one of those that
has to face up to it, too, in my own diet.

Remember to be extra vigilant since you don't have immediate pain to remind
you. Believe me, the pain is waiting in the wings if you don't. And yes, you
can live without as much fruit as you crave bacause you won't be healthy or
live as long with it.

You might consider joining a diabetic support group to help stay on track.

Hen.

When they have to cut one of your feet off, maybe then you'll really get it.
Or maybe it won't be until they have to take a whole leg.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW


"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in message
...
I've been struggling to lose weight for nearly 3 months now. I keep
losing
and regaining the same 5-6 pounds. I switched from Atkins to Bernstein
the
day after Mother's Day. I figure I was eating fewer than 10 carbs a day.
Still did the 6 pound bounce.

Thursday morning, I just got ****ed off, and decided to just eat whatever
I
wanted to, until seeing my doctor on Monday. I'm quite sure that she'll
adjust my diabetes medication.

I ate spaghetti. (Spaghetti is not low-carb) Bloated up like the
Goodyear
blimp, and was in horrible pain. I'm thinking that maybe wheat is a
problem for me. I already know that potatoes (also not low-carb) bloat me
and make me miserable. I'm going to have to keep my carbs within the 100
that are still considered low-carb, just because some major carb sources
make me sick.

Rice (not low-carb) and oatmeal (also not low-carb) seem to be carby foods
that I enjoy, and shouldn't be problems as long as I keep portions small.

I feel that I've got to use a moderate carb program. Not the standard
diabetes diet. That's insanely high in carbs. But not ultra-low-carb
like Bernstein or Atkins Induction, which I have trouble leaving behind.

I'm glad to have discovered that I can't tolerate some of my old favorite
foods. It'll make it much easier to stay on the straight and narrow of my
new plan.

My doctor supports low-carb, so I cancelled the appointment with the
diabetes educator, and am going straight to my doc.

Sorry, I just needed to share this, and vent a little. I'm very, very
frustrated, but hopeful that my doctor and I can develop a proper
medication plan as well as a workable, healthful diet.

Thanks for listening,
Carol

--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or
oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I
recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

From: "JC Der Koenig"

When they have to cut one of your feet off, maybe then you'll really get it.
Or maybe it won't be until they have to take a whole leg.

I have to agree with you on this one JC. As a nurse I've seen them lobbed off
too often. I'd rather have my foot/leg and give up something I was eating. I
was a lab tech for over 20 years before I went into nursing and had to carry
many a leg from surgery down to the morgue. That was in the days before they
had the ability to control it with home testing, etc. But it is the terrible,
internal, unseen damage to the body that is the worst. You can live without a
leg.

Hen.

Hen.

carol,
could you go back on atkins/bernstein combination, watching JUST
your BS and not the scale?
sorry to read about your food binge, we sure do know how to hurt
ourselves don't we?

--
rosie
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/052304A.shtml








"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in
message ...
: I've been struggling to lose weight for nearly 3 months now. I
keep losing
: and regaining the same 5-6 pounds. I switched from Atkins to
Bernstein the
: day after Mother's Day. I figure I was eating fewer than 10 carbs
a day.
: Still did the 6 pound bounce.
:
: Thursday morning, I just got ****ed off, and decided to just eat
whatever I
: wanted to, until seeing my doctor on Monday. I'm quite sure that
she'll
: adjust my diabetes medication.
:
: I ate spaghetti. (Spaghetti is not low-carb) Bloated up like the
Goodyear
: blimp, and was in horrible pain. I'm thinking that maybe wheat is
a
: problem for me. I already know that potatoes (also not low-carb)
bloat me
: and make me miserable. I'm going to have to keep my carbs within
the 100
: that are still considered low-carb, just because some major carb
sources
: make me sick.
:
: Rice (not low-carb) and oatmeal (also not low-carb) seem to be
carby foods
: that I enjoy, and shouldn't be problems as long as I keep portions
small.
:
: I feel that I've got to use a moderate carb program. Not the
standard
: diabetes diet. That's insanely high in carbs. But not
ultra-low-carb
: like Bernstein or Atkins Induction, which I have trouble leaving
behind.
:
: I'm glad to have discovered that I can't tolerate some of my old
favorite
: foods. It'll make it much easier to stay on the straight and
narrow of my
: new plan.
:
: My doctor supports low-carb, so I cancelled the appointment with
the
: diabetes educator, and am going straight to my doc.
:
: Sorry, I just needed to share this, and vent a little. I'm very,
very
: frustrated, but hopeful that my doctor and I can develop a proper
: medication plan as well as a workable, healthful diet.
:
: Thanks for listening,
: Carol
:
: --
: "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say
: 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or
: oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I
: recommend pleasant. You may quote me."
:
: *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

1. Count your calories with Fitday.
2. Try the Atkins' "Fat Fast."
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/21-237659.html
3. Use cauliflower instead of spaghetti.

"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in message
...
I've been struggling to lose weight for nearly 3 months now. I keep
losing
and regaining the same 5-6 pounds. I switched from Atkins to Bernstein
the
day after Mother's Day. I figure I was eating fewer than 10 carbs a day.
Still did the 6 pound bounce.

Thursday morning, I just got ****ed off, and decided to just eat whatever
I
wanted to, until seeing my doctor on Monday. I'm quite sure that she'll
adjust my diabetes medication.

I ate spaghetti. (Spaghetti is not low-carb) Bloated up like the
Goodyear
blimp, and was in horrible pain. I'm thinking that maybe wheat is a
problem for me. I already know that potatoes (also not low-carb) bloat me
and make me miserable. I'm going to have to keep my carbs within the 100
that are still considered low-carb, just because some major carb sources
make me sick.

Rice (not low-carb) and oatmeal (also not low-carb) seem to be carby foods
that I enjoy, and shouldn't be problems as long as I keep portions small.

I feel that I've got to use a moderate carb program. Not the standard
diabetes diet. That's insanely high in carbs. But not ultra-low-carb
like Bernstein or Atkins Induction, which I have trouble leaving behind.

I'm glad to have discovered that I can't tolerate some of my old favorite
foods. It'll make it much easier to stay on the straight and narrow of my
new plan.

My doctor supports low-carb, so I cancelled the appointment with the
diabetes educator, and am going straight to my doc.

Sorry, I just needed to share this, and vent a little. I'm very, very
frustrated, but hopeful that my doctor and I can develop a proper
medication plan as well as a workable, healthful diet.

Thanks for listening,
Carol

--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or
oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I
recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
[snip]
Sorry if I'm repeating myself. I just feel like I'm under
attack,
and that it seems that you're envisioning me sitting on my
fat butt,
eating bon bons and washing them down with full sugar
soda.

Carol,

I certainly cannot insert myself in the minds of all who
have responded to you on this thread. However, I have read
each of them and in my opinion, though many of them are
quite pointed, I don't read a single one of them as being an
attack on you. I really don't. What I do read is input
from a group of folks who, through your posts here, have
come to know you and are trying to understand you. And,
more so, have come to care about you. Just what a support
group is all about.

My first advice I will have to deliver in the form of an
anecdote. When I was leaving one job for another quite a
few years back, I asked one of our executives what one thing
I could change about myself or my behavior that might make
me more effective as an employee and a manager. His advice
then surprised me, but it has stuck with me all these years.
The advice? I quote: "Don't allow yourself to become so
frustrated as you then become focused solely on the
frustration which makes you ineffective at working the tasks
at hand."

My second bit of advice comes from another manager in that
same department. When I asked how to avoid frustration the
comment I got back was to first document what frustrated me.
The list was fairly short but could be summed up quite
succinctly as: There were too many things to do, not enough
time to do them, and some of them were at odds with each
other. Her sage advice was simple: Make a list, prioritize
that list, work the list of priorities. If you never make
it past item number 1 then item 2 doesn't matter. If item 2
does matter after all, learn to delegate. If you can't
delegate then review your priorities, every day if
necessary, to be sure you are working the correct issue.

I suggest you make your list of priorities and work it
diligently. Don't focus on the frustration of not getting
to, or being successful at, items lower on the list.

What do you suppose your number 1 item on such a list might
be?

--
JJ.

Carol wrote:

Sorry, I just needed to share this, and vent a little. I'm very, very
frustrated, but hopeful that my doctor and I can develop a proper
medication plan as well as a workable, healthful diet.

And that last part "workable, healthy" is the key, I think, to diet success.
How do you feel? Your frustration is part of how you feel, and you're right to
consider it, but I personally think you should consider your physical feelings
too. It's so easy to get attached to the scale, and the emotions that weighing
generates. I think our bodies know what they are doing, and in time, we can
become more healthy if we persevere. Your plan sounds sensible. Hang in there.

In loving support,
Bridget M.

JJ wrote:
| Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
| [snip]
|| Sorry if I'm repeating myself. I just feel like I'm under
|| attack,
|| and that it seems that you're envisioning me sitting on my
|| fat butt,
|| eating bon bons and washing them down with full sugar
|| soda.
|
| Carol,
|
| I certainly cannot insert myself in the minds of all who
| have responded to you on this thread. However, I have read
| each of them and in my opinion, though many of them are
| quite pointed, I don't read a single one of them as being an
| attack on you. I really don't. What I do read is input
| from a group of folks who, through your posts here, have
| come to know you and are trying to understand you. And,
| more so, have come to care about you. Just what a support
| group is all about.
|
| My first advice I will have to deliver in the form of an
| anecdote. When I was leaving one job for another quite a
| few years back, I asked one of our executives what one thing
| I could change about myself or my behavior that might make
| me more effective as an employee and a manager. His advice
| then surprised me, but it has stuck with me all these years.
| The advice? I quote: "Don't allow yourself to become so
| frustrated as you then become focused solely on the
| frustration which makes you ineffective at working the tasks
| at hand."
|
| My second bit of advice comes from another manager in that
| same department. When I asked how to avoid frustration the
| comment I got back was to first document what frustrated me.
| The list was fairly short but could be summed up quite
| succinctly as: There were too many things to do, not enough
| time to do them, and some of them were at odds with each
| other. Her sage advice was simple: Make a list, prioritize
| that list, work the list of priorities. If you never make
| it past item number 1 then item 2 doesn't matter. If item 2
| does matter after all, learn to delegate. If you can't
| delegate then review your priorities, every day if
| necessary, to be sure you are working the correct issue.
|
| I suggest you make your list of priorities and work it
| diligently. Don't focus on the frustration of not getting
| to, or being successful at, items lower on the list.
|
| What do you suppose your number 1 item on such a list might
| be?


This was very well put, and great advice JJ.

My #1 health priority was losing weight until I was diagnosed as diabetic a
few months ago. Then the weight loss moved to #2, and controlling my blood
sugars moved up to top priority. Being slim would be pretty irrelevant if I
were to develop heart disease, kidney disease and possible lose limbs due
to neuopathy from diabetes.

Now I can't imagine *not* eating appropriately.
--
Peter
270/216/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/bef...eafterpix.html

On Sun, 23 May 2004 13:27:29 GMT, "rosie"
wrote:

carol,
could you go back on atkins/bernstein combination, watching JUST
your BS and not the scale?

No matter how few carbs I eat, I can't get my blood sugar under adequate
control. I've been trying to convey that I'm seeing my doctor tomorrow for
a medication adjustment. The weight loss will be a happy side-effect of
getting the bloods sugars under control.

sorry to read about your food binge, we sure do know how to hurt
ourselves don't we?

Yeah, we do. And a few people in this group know how to hurt us, too. Not
you, Rosie.

Carol

--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or
oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I
recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_