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Old January 22nd, 2005, 09:54 PM
Renegade5
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Default Blood pressure - My Doctor is a putz.

Dr. Roizen if fairly well renowned, and you'll probably hear more from
him shortly (I think he's just released a new book).

He's the author of "Real Age - Are You As Young As You Can Be?"
Published 1999, HarperCollins ISBN 0-06-019134-1

The book is defenitely worth checking out:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...431908-0883235

The 'number of years' that various risk factors and indicators add or
take away from you life is a little 'gimicky' IMHO.

Seems now-a-days that you have to have some sort of gimick to sell a
health book. They just aren't 'sexy' enough to sell on their own.

But apart from that, the book does a great job 'prioritizing' which
things affect your health the most and least (for both better and
worse) and gives good tips on how to reduce risk, and improve health.

There is a Real Age website: http://www.realage.com/

As well as an electronic newsletter you can sign up for if you like.

Blood pressure is one of the bigest health indicators.

Some excerpts:
"Preventing arterial aging is the most important thing you can do to
reduce your RealAge..."

"The most important marker for arterial aging is blood pressure. By
keeping your blood pressure at the ideal level of 115/76, you can make
your RealAge as much as 10 years younger than if your blood pressure
were at the national median of 129/86"

"Atherosclerosis... is the second leading cause of arterial aging,
just behind high blood pressure"

"Nothing ages you faster than mistreating your heart and arteries"

"Blood pressure readings are measurements of the overall health and
wellbeing of our heart and arteries"

"89% of Americans have blood pressure higher than the ideal for
preventing again - 115/76"

"Nearly a quarter of all Americans (58 million) have blood pressure
above the American Hearth Association's danger zone of 140/90"

"The ideal blood pressure for maintaining youth and vigor is 115/76"



On 22 Jan 2005 03:57:08 GMT, Ignoramus13187
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:51:15 GMT, Renegade5 wrote:
What do you guys think about blood pressure of 115-125/70-75. 33 year
old male. The top number sometimes goes a bit over 120, which is too much
according to guidelines.


According to Dr. Michael Roizen (author of the 'Real Age' series)
that's about optimal. Congratulations! :-)


Thanks. Do you have some references to this Doctor's writings?

--
223/173.3/180


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Old January 22nd, 2005, 11:33 PM
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On 22 Jan 2005 22:29:48 GMT, Ignoramus22756
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Thanks. The website said that my real age is 3 years younger, which I
have hard times believing.


Well, it said mine was 10.5 years younger, which I also find hard to
believe. It was running at about -4 based on my weight and general
health statistics, then went down a bit based on vitamin-taking and a
whole lot based on exercise. Whatever :-)

Chris
262/134/(130-140)
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
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Old January 23rd, 2005, 01:21 AM
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On 22 Jan 2005 23:58:05 GMT, Ignoramus22756
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:33:09 GMT, Chris Braun wrote:
On 22 Jan 2005 22:29:48 GMT, Ignoramus22756
wrote:

Thanks. The website said that my real age is 3 years younger, which I
have hard times believing.


Well, it said mine was 10.5 years younger, which I also find hard to
believe. It was running at about -4 based on my weight and general
health statistics, then went down a bit based on vitamin-taking and a
whole lot based on exercise. Whatever :-)


I find it strange that taking vitamins reduces "biological age",
according to the website. You do look a little younger than your age,
though.


That's probably hard to tell from those bad pictures:-). I don't
think my face really does; weight loss has aged it, if anything. My
body looks younger, as I have a lot of muscle definition. (Neck down,
in spandex, I could probably pass for 45 easily :-) .) I don't think
the web site is about looks, though, but more about life expectancy.
It would be nice to think I was influencing that, but I don't really
know.

Chris
262/134/(130-140)
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
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Old January 23rd, 2005, 01:24 AM
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"Chris Braun" wrote in message
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On 22 Jan 2005 22:29:48 GMT, Ignoramus22756
wrote:

Thanks. The website said that my real age is 3 years younger, which I
have hard times believing.


Well, it said mine was 10.5 years younger, which I also find hard to
believe. It was running at about -4 based on my weight and general
health statistics, then went down a bit based on vitamin-taking and a
whole lot based on exercise. Whatever :-)

Chris
262/134/(130-140)
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004


Mine was 5.7 years younger. When I compare myself to friends my age I find
I'm usually the only one in the group who does any type of regular exercise.
I might have gotten a lower score if I hadn't smoked in earlier years.


Beverly


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 01:38 AM
Beverly
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"Ignoramus22756" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:33:09 GMT, Chris Braun

wrote:
On 22 Jan 2005 22:29:48 GMT, Ignoramus22756
wrote:

Thanks. The website said that my real age is 3 years younger, which I
have hard times believing.


Well, it said mine was 10.5 years younger, which I also find hard to
believe. It was running at about -4 based on my weight and general
health statistics, then went down a bit based on vitamin-taking and a
whole lot based on exercise. Whatever :-)


I find it strange that taking vitamins reduces "biological age",
according to the website. You do look a little younger than your age,
though.

--
223/173.3/180


I think it's pretty common knowledge that people who eat right are
healthier. Healthy people live longer. Vitamins only ensure you're
getting all the vitamins and minerals your body needs. Even the healthiest
diets sometimes fall short in a few vitamins. Calcium is especially
important to women and taking a multi-vitamin and/or additional calcium is
often suggested by our doctors.

Beverly


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 09:49 AM
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:21:57 GMT, Chris Braun
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That's probably hard to tell from those bad pictures:-). I don't
think my face really does; weight loss has aged it, if anything. My
body looks younger, as I have a lot of muscle definition. (Neck down,
in spandex, I could probably pass for 45 easily :-) .) I don't think
the web site is about looks, though, but more about life expectancy.
It would be nice to think I was influencing that, but I don't really
know.

Chris, even if you're not influencing your life expectancy I would be
prepared to bet that you're certainly affecting the number of active
years and your quality of life in general in later years, which to my
mind is just as important if not more so.

janice
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Old January 23rd, 2005, 01:38 PM
Beverly
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"janice" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:21:57 GMT, Chris Braun
wrote:


That's probably hard to tell from those bad pictures:-). I don't
think my face really does; weight loss has aged it, if anything. My
body looks younger, as I have a lot of muscle definition. (Neck down,
in spandex, I could probably pass for 45 easily :-) .) I don't think
the web site is about looks, though, but more about life expectancy.
It would be nice to think I was influencing that, but I don't really
know.

Chris, even if you're not influencing your life expectancy I would be
prepared to bet that you're certainly affecting the number of active
years and your quality of life in general in later years, which to my
mind is just as important if not more so.

janice


That's a very good point, janice. It's one I've certainly thought about for
years. As a teenager I noticed older relatives who were overweight suffered
from several illnesses such as arthritis, diabetes and heart disease. They
were also the ones who usually died in their 50's and 60's. Other
relatives, such as my grandfather and several aunts and uncles, who lived
into their 80's and 90's were of average weight and very active.

My mother was one who was overweight and died at age 61. She never nagged
my sister and I about what we ate but always kept healthy foods at home
instead of junk food. She encouraged us to participate in all kinds of
sports, swim, skate and bike (yes, I've been biking since age 5). She
always told us that she felt all her health problems were directly related
to her excess weight. When I slack off the exercise or start gaining weight
and start feeling like a slug I always remember what she said about her
excess weight. As I think back on all this maybe I wasn't the one who
noticed it; maybe mother kept pointing it out to me.

Beverly





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Old January 23rd, 2005, 02:40 PM
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"Ignoramus22756" wrote in
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Thanks. The website said that my real age is 3 years younger,

which I
have hard times believing.


It's a lifestyle monitor and does have a kook element. Eating right
makes you about seven years younger providing one is the correct
weight and one does exercise. One can tweak their system to show
oneself as much as eleven years younger than one's chronological
age. I have a friend who is a fitness fanatic and she consistently
shows up at eleven years younger. I suspect that Chris might, too.
I actually show up as older.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 02:43 PM
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"Beverly" wrote in message

Mine was 5.7 years younger. When I compare myself to friends my

age I find
I'm usually the only one in the group who does any type of regular

exercise.
I might have gotten a lower score if I hadn't smoked in earlier

years.

Someone told me once that after seven years of not smoking all the
damage done by the smoking was cancelled out statistically providing
that one did not have emphysema (which is irreversible) at the time
of quitting.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Day 21 of my new WOL
136.8kg/131kg/90kg



 




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