Insulin resistance

Just been diagnosed with insulin resistance after a 3 day fasting test
in hospital.
Been put on 1000mg metformin daily, and the endo said a low carb diet
will really help. So far so good (except when I increased to 2000mg for
a week and it wiped me out - dizzy and unable to concentrate etc etc !)

But - he added, I'm not to lc as extreme as "Atkins type diet", as going
that low in carbs would "make my IR worse", and he suggested I left rice
and small amounts of fruit in the diet.

Like an idiot I didn't ask why I shouldn't go "proper" lc, but now I
think about - erm why? Why would it make IR worse? ... don't get it.
I would have thought that serious carb restriction would cause serious
insulin restriction, which is what I'm after innit?
And I do feel better when both on Met. and in ketosis.

Any thoughts?
Martin

On May 17, 8:12*am, Martin Barrett wrote:
Just been diagnosed with insulin resistance after a 3 day fasting test
in hospital.
Been put on 1000mg metformin daily, and the endo said a low carb diet
will really help. So far so good (except when I increased to 2000mg for
a week and it wiped me out - dizzy and unable to concentrate etc etc !)

But - he added, I'm not to lc as extreme as "Atkins type diet", as going
that low in carbs would "make my IR worse", and he suggested I left rice
and small amounts of fruit in the diet.

Like an idiot I didn't ask why I shouldn't go "proper" lc, *but now I
think about - erm why? Why would it make IR worse? ... don't get it.
I would have thought that serious carb restriction would cause serious
insulin restriction, which is what I'm after innit?
And I do feel better when both on Met. and in ketosis.

Any thoughts?
Martin


I've been following this newsgroup for years and can't recall anyone
ever claiming that any LC diet ever made insulin resistance worse.
In fact, it helps make it better, just like Atkins said.

The key phrase here is the "as extreme as an Atkins type diet."
That immediately suggests that your Dr. doesn't even understand what
Atkins is all about. Your carbs are limited to 20g during induction,
which typically lasts 2 weeks, though you can stay on that level
longer. After induction, you add back carbs, 5g/day additional each
week and monitor how your body responds. So, it' not long before
you'll be at higher levels of carbs, leading all the way to a
maintenance level when you are at your target weight. Unfortunately,
your Dr, like so many others, probably thinks the Atkins diet means
close to zero carbs forever.

I'd also be wary of diet advice from a Dr that says to do LC, then
recommends including rice as an example food. Even if you want a
higher level of carbs, something more like South Beach, I sure
wouldn't rattle off rice as a good example of how to spend your carb
budget.

On May 17, 8:12*am, Martin Barrett wrote:
Just been diagnosed with insulin resistance after a 3 day fasting test
in hospital.
Been put on 1000mg metformin daily, and the endo said a low carbdiet
will really help. So far so good (except when I increased to 2000mg for
a week and it wiped me out - dizzy and unable to concentrate etc etc !)

But - he added, I'm not to lc as extreme as "Atkins typediet", as going
that low in carbs would "make my IR worse", and he suggested I left rice
and small amounts of fruit in thediet.

Like an idiot I didn't ask why I shouldn't go "proper" lc, *but now I
think about - erm why? Why would it make IR worse? ... don't get it.
I would have thought that serious carb restriction would cause serious
insulin restriction, which is what I'm after innit?
And I do feel better when both on Met. and in ketosis.

Any thoughts?
Martin

WOW, I haven't ever heard anyone say they felt BETTER in ketosis, my
first thought is that you must have felt totally awful before? I eat
a healthy diet with plenty of carbs in dairy/fruits/vegs, lots of
protein because I teach aerobics, I and feel great. Have you tried
that? Sometimes I wonder if doctors know what they are talking about
too... Get more than one opinion, don't be led down the wrong track,
you will just waste time and it will make getting to your goal a lot
slower.
Our personal training students work out 5 times a week, eat no more
than 3 servings of starches per day, eat all the fruits/vegs they can
possibly stuff into their body (more vegs than fruits, preferably
twice as many), and 60-120 grams of protein a day (and keep fat
between 15-40 grams/day). They lose weight like crazy and look
wonderful. It is so easy and it works.
Maybe my videos will motivate you! www.videofitnesscoach.com
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
ANITA

ANITA STONE TAMPA FLORIDA wrote:
On May 17, 8:12 am, Martin Barrett wrote:
Just been diagnosed with insulin resistance after a 3 day fasting test
in hospital.
Been put on 1000mg metformin daily, and the endo said a low carbdiet
will really help. So far so good (except when I increased to 2000mg for
a week and it wiped me out - dizzy and unable to concentrate etc etc !)

But - he added, I'm not to lc as extreme as "Atkins typediet", as going
that low in carbs would "make my IR worse", and he suggested I left rice
and small amounts of fruit in thediet.

Like an idiot I didn't ask why I shouldn't go "proper" lc, but now I
think about - erm why? Why would it make IR worse? ... don't get it.
I would have thought that serious carb restriction would cause serious
insulin restriction, which is what I'm after innit?
And I do feel better when both on Met. and in ketosis.

Any thoughts?
Martin

WOW, I haven't ever heard anyone say they felt BETTER in ketosis, my
first thought is that you must have felt totally awful before? I eat
a healthy diet with plenty of carbs in dairy/fruits/vegs, lots of
protein because I teach aerobics, I and feel great. Have you tried
that? Sometimes I wonder if doctors know what they are talking about
too... Get more than one opinion, don't be led down the wrong track,
you will just waste time and it will make getting to your goal a lot
slower.
Our personal training students work out 5 times a week, eat no more
than 3 servings of starches per day, eat all the fruits/vegs they can
possibly stuff into their body (more vegs than fruits, preferably
twice as many), and 60-120 grams of protein a day (and keep fat
between 15-40 grams/day). They lose weight like crazy and look
wonderful. It is so easy and it works.
Maybe my videos will motivate you! www.videofitnesscoach.com
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
ANITA

Thanks Anita,
I know a lot of folks who feel better in ketosis.
And yes, I do loads of exercise, every other day in the gym - for over
two years and no weight loss with a fairly low carb diet. (50gm carbs a
day) That's why they got me into hospital and found this insulin
problem.... do you have any experience with insulin resistance?

On Sat, 17 May 2008 16:18:07 -0400, Martin Barrett
wrote:

ANITA STONE TAMPA FLORIDA wrote:
On May 17, 8:12 am, Martin Barrett wrote:
Just been diagnosed with insulin resistance after a 3 day fasting test
in hospital.
Been put on 1000mg metformin daily, and the endo said a low carbdiet
will really help. So far so good (except when I increased to 2000mg for
a week and it wiped me out - dizzy and unable to concentrate etc etc !)

But - he added, I'm not to lc as extreme as "Atkins typediet", as going
that low in carbs would "make my IR worse", and he suggested I left
rice
and small amounts of fruit in thediet.

Like an idiot I didn't ask why I shouldn't go "proper" lc, but now I
think about - erm why? Why would it make IR worse? ... don't get it.
I would have thought that serious carb restriction would cause serious
insulin restriction, which is what I'm after innit?
And I do feel better when both on Met. and in ketosis.

Any thoughts?
Martin
WOW, I haven't ever heard anyone say they felt BETTER in ketosis, my
first thought is that you must have felt totally awful before? I eat
a healthy diet with plenty of carbs in dairy/fruits/vegs, lots of
protein because I teach aerobics, I and feel great. Have you tried
that? Sometimes I wonder if doctors know what they are talking about
too... Get more than one opinion, don't be led down the wrong track,
you will just waste time and it will make getting to your goal a lot
slower.
Our personal training students work out 5 times a week, eat no more
than 3 servings of starches per day, eat all the fruits/vegs they can
possibly stuff into their body (more vegs than fruits, preferably
twice as many), and 60-120 grams of protein a day (and keep fat
between 15-40 grams/day). They lose weight like crazy and look
wonderful. It is so easy and it works.
Maybe my videos will motivate you! www.videofitnesscoach.com
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
ANITA

Thanks Anita,
I know a lot of folks who feel better in ketosis.
And yes, I do loads of exercise, every other day in the gym - for over
two years and no weight loss with a fairly low carb diet. (50gm carbs a
day) That's why they got me into hospital and found this insulin
problem.... do you have any experience with insulin resistance?

Anita is a freaking idiot. I feel much better in ketosis than eating low
fat. Are you saying that you ate less than 50 grams of carbs a day and
yet are still insulin resistant?

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Bob wrote:

SNIP

Anita is a freaking idiot. I feel much better in ketosis than eating
low fat. Are you saying that you ate less than 50 grams of carbs a day
and yet are still insulin resistant?


Cheers Bob
Yes my insulin was still high during a three day hospital supervised
fast. I've been full body scanned for any growths etc and am fine.
Dr reckons some rare people just do this and no-one knows why - and
prescribed me metformin. The only other thing of note in my blood is
very low dhea.

On May 17, 7:12*am, Martin Barrett wrote:
Just been diagnosed with insulin resistance after a 3 day fasting test
in hospital.
Been put on 1000mg metformin daily, and the endo said a low carb diet
will really help. So far so good (except when I increased to 2000mg for
a week and it wiped me out - dizzy and unable to concentrate etc etc !)

But - he added, I'm not to lc as extreme as "Atkins type diet", as going
that low in carbs would "make my IR worse", and he suggested I left rice
and small amounts of fruit in the diet.

Like an idiot I didn't ask why I shouldn't go "proper" lc, *but now I
think about - erm why? Why would it make IR worse? ... don't get it.
I would have thought that serious carb restriction would cause serious
insulin restriction, which is what I'm after innit?
And I do feel better when both on Met. and in ketosis.

Any thoughts?
Martin

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