What make one feel hungry?

Low blood sugar
Thirst
Fatigue
Low body fat (fat releases hormones, if low you get hungry)
Desire for feelings evoked by food e.g. childhood feelings of comfort,
being loved etc
Boredom or stress
Caffeols (substances in coffee that can make you feel hungry)
Vitamin deficiencies
Mineral deficiencies
Fatty acid deficiencies including secondary deficiencies caused by too
much 'bad fat'.
Gastric juices released, stimulated by sight or smell of food
An empty stomach (stomach distension detectors not firing)
Lack of fat in stomach recently, causing lack of production of 'recently
ate fat' hormones
Various psychoactive drugs such as prozac and cannabis.
Salt deficiency
Malfunctioning hypothalamus causing 'hunger' signals to be generated
e.g. a brain tumour

Tim Josling
(That's me, not a reason to feel hungry)

Ben Park wrote:
What make one feel hungry? Is it low glucose alone? Are somethings
else also involved?

Go out into the forest with a spear and look for carbs. There are not a
lot of carbs out there.

Carbs in high doses only date from the advent of agriculture a few
thousand years ago, which is not long in evolutionary terms.

And most subsistence famers lived on a pretty low calorie diet, even if
it was high in carbs as a percentage.

Tim Josling

Ben Park wrote:
This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.

Trina a.k.a milady milady@connectionsdothereykandhereca wrote in message . ..

Too many carbs and not enough fat in your diet?

On 17 Nov 2003 16:43:24 -0800, (Ben Park) wrote:


What make one feel hungry? Is it low glucose alone? Are somethings
else also involved?

Trina
a.k.a milady

Miche wrote in message ...
In article , "Jean B."
wrote:

Ben Park wrote:

This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.


Off the top of my head, I'd say think about the long time that
humans existed before they started to engage in agriculture. I'd
think that most of the calories must have come from game. Sure,
there would have been gathering too, but that might not have
accounted for that much of the diet. I should look back in some
of my arch/anth books.

Gathering accounted for more of the diet than hunting did.

South-East Asian peoples ate a lot of grain (wild rice) even before the
advent of agriculture.

A lot of gathered roots and vegetables were high-carb too, even before
humans started cross-breeding for palatability.

Miche

What roots or vegetables growing naturally and in abundance are high carb?

Chet Hayes wrote:

Miche wrote in message ...
In article , "Jean B."
wrote:

Ben Park wrote:

This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.


Off the top of my head, I'd say think about the long time that
humans existed before they started to engage in agriculture. I'd
think that most of the calories must have come from game. Sure,
there would have been gathering too, but that might not have
accounted for that much of the diet. I should look back in some
of my arch/anth books.

Gathering accounted for more of the diet than hunting did.

South-East Asian peoples ate a lot of grain (wild rice) even before the
advent of agriculture.

A lot of gathered roots and vegetables were high-carb too, even before
humans started cross-breeding for palatability.

Miche

What roots or vegetables growing naturally and in abundance are high carb?

I wonder what the wild potatoes and carrots looked like. I think
the potatoes may have been pretty small--like ancient corn was.
This would be an interesting thing to research a bit.
--
Jean B.

You guys convinced me. Many carbs (bread, white rice, big sweet
apples) are not natural, and our body has not evolved to deal with
them. We are victims of our own technologies.

I will go low carbs. I am going to CostCo now to stock up. I am
thinking of bags of almond, frozen salmon, soy milk (if they have the
unsweetened kind).

I have looked around. Look like South Beach and Zone are good diet to
follow.


(Ben Park) wrote in message om...
This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.

Trina a.k.a milady milady@connectionsdothereykandhereca wrote in message . ..
Too many carbs and not enough fat in your diet?

On 17 Nov 2003 16:43:24 -0800, (Ben Park) wrote:

What make one feel hungry? Is it low glucose alone? Are somethings
else also involved?

Trina
a.k.a milady

"Ben Park" wrote in message
m...
You guys convinced me. Many carbs (bread, white rice, big sweet
apples) are not natural, and our body has not evolved to deal with
them. We are victims of our own technologies.

I will go low carbs. I am going to CostCo now to stock up. I am
thinking of bags of almond, frozen salmon, soy milk (if they have the
unsweetened kind).

I have looked around. Look like South Beach and Zone are good diet to
follow.

Welcome and good luck. Read the faqs and the book of your chosen plan,
and come ask questions anytime.

revek


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Just one other thing... you are a unique individual. Use the different
diets as a starting point but at the end of the day you are looking for
something that works for you.

Some people are adapted to carbs, just like some people are somewhat
adapted to dairy food.

If you do try Atkins, take some vitamins. Not necessarily his expensive
ones but it does put some stress on your body at least at first so a
good multi is good insurance.

Tim Josling

Ben Park wrote:
You guys convinced me. Many carbs (bread, white rice, big sweet
apples) are not natural, and our body has not evolved to deal with
them. We are victims of our own technologies.

I will go low carbs. I am going to CostCo now to stock up. I am
thinking of bags of almond, frozen salmon, soy milk (if they have the
unsweetened kind).

I have looked around. Look like South Beach and Zone are good diet to
follow.


(Ben Park) wrote in message om...

This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.

Trina a.k.a milady milady@connectionsdothereykandhereca wrote in message . ..

Too many carbs and not enough fat in your diet?

On 17 Nov 2003 16:43:24 -0800, (Ben Park) wrote:


What make one feel hungry? Is it low glucose alone? Are somethings
else also involved?

Trina
a.k.a milady

In article ,
(Chet Hayes) wrote:

Miche wrote in message
...
In article , "Jean B."
wrote:

Ben Park wrote:

This world has so much food energy sources in the form of
carbohydrate. Why did evolution make our body so vulnerable to
carbohydrate? The theory underlying those low-carb diets doesn't seem
to make much sense.


Off the top of my head, I'd say think about the long time that
humans existed before they started to engage in agriculture. I'd
think that most of the calories must have come from game. Sure,
there would have been gathering too, but that might not have
accounted for that much of the diet. I should look back in some
of my arch/anth books.

Gathering accounted for more of the diet than hunting did.

South-East Asian peoples ate a lot of grain (wild rice) even before the
advent of agriculture.

A lot of gathered roots and vegetables were high-carb too, even before
humans started cross-breeding for palatability.

What roots or vegetables growing naturally and in abundance are high carb?

What benchmark are you using for "high-carb"?

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

In article , "Jean B."
wrote:

I wonder what the wild potatoes and carrots looked like. I think
the potatoes may have been pretty small--like ancient corn was.
This would be an interesting thing to research a bit.

Wild potatoes are small and have blue skins and blue flesh.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

In article ,
Pat Paris wrote:

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:22:49 +1300, Miche
wrote:

In article ,
Pat Paris wrote:

Sources, please?
Sources, please?
Sources, please?

My husband the Anthropologist, in all cases.

Wow, upper case anthropologist at that. I'm impressed.

Good.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"