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Old May 20th, 2009, 04:39 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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On Wed, 20 May 2009 10:00:27 -0500, MU wrote
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add an Ounce of Common Sense


If you think a 6 foot 4 inch male and a 5 foot 2 inch female can both eat two
pounds of any food with no evidence presented, then you have no common sense.

It would be common sense for someone making that claim to present the
statistics to back it up. I know MU will respond about qualifications to
evaluate it, but evidently MU has none so how can he say it is correct. If
someone does not have the expertise, can send it to someone who does. This
response of Chung/MU is an excuse. That is common sense.

It would be common sense for a doctor, like Chung with a PhD who has done
research and published papers in the recognized journals, to do the same if
it could get past the editors.

If you have any common sense you would check with your doctor to see what
s/he would recommend.

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Old May 20th, 2009, 04:41 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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On Wed, 20 May 2009 10:03:39 -0500, MU wrote
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On Fri, 1 May 2009 17:25:35 +0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2009-05-01, MU wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:21:40 -0700, Cheri wrote:

"MU" wrote in message
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Goodbye, little child.

*plonk*

The irony. You're publicly plonking someone, and calling them a little
child? One thing I can say for you, you never change. LOL

Cheri

Everyone changes. What hasn't changed is my lack of time and patience
for Usenet kiddies.


But, exactly as predicted, you followed up to me today. So your *plonk* was
only a meaningless overture, and your claim that you lack time is laughable.
As for patience, the need for that is obviated by your appetite.


*plonks* are any more permanent than you are.


Finally a discussion about "plonks" which is MU's level.

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Old May 29th, 2009, 04:33 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,misc.health.alternative
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c33efe51560d7?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):


Your evil god:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Funny, but your Bible has God taking credit for creating all things,
including evil. In fact...

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be
afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

The Bible explicitly states that every evil act is in fact the will of
the Lord!

  #214  
Old May 29th, 2009, 04:36 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,misc.health.alternative
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"MU" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2009 21:55:45 -0500, L.B. Listmann wrote:

Chung got this 2PD nonsense from the bible. Apparently be believes
everyone
from near infancy to old age is supposed to consume 2 lbs of food a day.
Calories don't matter according to Chung. He bases this 2 PD diet on the
biblical "manna from heaven" story. There is no basis in reality for this
diet he's pushing.


More lies and innacuaracies.

Clue coming! Read about what you criticize, it will assist you in ot
looking like the moron you are. Hide it better, anyway.
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You're the moron for buying into Chung's insane babbling and nonsense. If he
told you to jump off a roof, you'd ask which one.

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Old May 29th, 2009, 04:43 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,misc.health.alternative
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"Màck©®" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 May 2009 21:55:45 -0500, "L.B. Listmann"
wrote:



are you awar that you are argueing with a mentally ill individual?
This mental illness led to his being fired in Ocala Florida. Look it
up, it is truely enlightening.


It can see it's becoming pretty well known. Apparently he's too mentally
ill to hold a job.

  #216  
Old May 29th, 2009, 04:45 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diabetes,sci.med.cardiology
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"Atheno" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 May 2009 21:44:27 -0500, MU wrote
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lol



As Chung wrote in response to a "lol":

"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit "


So now he believes himself to be the "Holy Spirit." It doesn't get crazier
than that. Next he'll claim to be God himself.

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Old May 29th, 2009, 04:52 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,misc.health.alternative,alt.christnet.christianlife
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
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L.B. Listmann wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
L.B. Listmann wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

"Indeed most people using the 2PD-OMER Approach are doing this in
combination with a diet comprising of their favorite foods."

Eating 2 lbs of food consisting of 8 or 9000 calories a day ...

Bomb calorimeter measurements of 2 lbs (908 grams) of food comprising
of a variety of a person's favorites typically yields about 1800
calories and not 8000-9000 calories as you falsely claim. This has
been pointed out to you earlier by Kaz:


The favorite foods of many, if not most obese people are not low calorie
foods.


Favorites change when folks hold themselves to 32 ounces per day.



Where is your proof or evidence of this? What university did the research
to back your claims?



Fries, sweets, burgers etc are not going to contain 1800 in a 2 pound
portion.


They don't contain 8000-9000 calories as you have falsely claimed.

Only lean meats and low carb veggies may make it.


The average caloric density of what people are eating remains about 2
cal/gm as cited by Kaz.

Those are not
usually the favorite foods of those with weight issues.


Folks with weight issues are **all** eating more than 32 ounces per
day.


And you read this in your crystal ball?


Therefore, they will **all** lose weight by eating less, down to the
right amount (32 ounces) per day.


Who? Tall men doing manual labor or short inactive women?



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Old May 29th, 2009, 04:54 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,misc.health.alternative,alt.christnet.christianlife
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"MU" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:17:11 -0500, L.B. Listmann wrote:

Bomb calorimeter measurements of 2 lbs (908 grams) of food comprising
of a variety of a person's favorites typically yields about 1800
calories and not 8000-9000 calories as you falsely claim. This has
been pointed out to you earlier by Kaz:


The favorite foods of many, if not most obese people are not low calorie
foods. Fries, sweets, burgers etc are not going to contain 1800 in a 2
pound
portion


You don't know that, no one does. Cal books are about "average" and
averages can be widely varied.
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http://tinyurl.com/5gt7



EXACTLY! And you and your hero Chung have no idea what the 2 lbs of food
would contain, how many calories, that people would eat following his insane
diet.

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Old May 29th, 2009, 04:57 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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"Atheno" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 May 2009 09:38:47 -0500, MU wrote
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A hint. Listerineman and his hip buddy Atheno spend endless amounts of
time spinning circular, nonsensical arguments. If you think you will
ever get anywhere with these loons, you won't.


Hint Chung/MU just repeat the same unproven claims and will not get a
straight answer because they (he) have no straight answer.



Because Chung claimed on his website some time back that it was based on the
"manna" from heaven his God allegedly dropped from the sky for the wandering
Hebrews.

  #220  
Old May 29th, 2009, 05:02 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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"MU" wrote in message
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Eat 2PD or under, add an Ounce of Common Sense, over time, you lose
weight.


You have nothing to base this claim on.


If you take on any diet with a head full of problems, which is the
_real_ reason you overconsume, you're doomed from the start. Either
solve your mental and emotional issues first or fuggit about it.


To claim over 60% of the human race has emotional and mental problems is in
itself the giveaway of someone suffering these conditions.


You have two choices. Professional human help or God. If you don't
believe in God, then you better have one damn good psychologist.


What the hell do the gods have to do with weight loss? Like Chung, you're
another religious fanatic.


 




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