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Old September 23rd, 2004, 01:00 AM
Doug Freese
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"Jane Lumley" wrote in message
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Any clue about how far you go before you are burning mainly fat, or is
that, too, individual?


To keep it simple as soon as you move you are burning fat and Glycogen.
When you are going slow as in walking you are burning mostly fat and
very little glycogen. As you add speed you burn more glycogen. When you
are sprinting you are using pure glycogen and very little, if any fat.So
yes it is individual, in that each persons burn ration is different. As
we learn to run further and faster our efficiency gets better. The
bottom line, when you are out of glycogen, i.e bonk, it is painful run.
Like trying to run a gas engine on diesel fuel.



And (dumb question, doubtless) if endurance athletes burn fat, why do
they need carbs in order not to bonk in the UK, bonk means you have
lots of - er - energy...?


I know, just like the term fanny pack. In the US boink means the UK
bonk.

Bear with me; I've never been in a club and I only know what Runners'
World chooses to tell me.


Spend you subscription money something like Peak Running Performance and
use the RW pages for toilet paper.

-DF


  #352  
Old September 23rd, 2004, 05:23 AM
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The purpose of the food diary would be to assess changes in energy intake.
Did the group losing the most weight also reduce energy intake? Did the
exercisers that maintained weight increase energy intake, etc.


"Donovan Rebbechi" wrote in message
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On 2004-09-20, Sam wrote:
People who start exercising sometimes self-select to change eating

habits.
Would have been a better study if the subjects had kept food diaries,

but
any research can be picked apart (mine certainly has been!).


I don't agree -- the point of the study is simply to ask whether or not

there's
a main effect of exercise. If they had results with the food diary, the

result
could have been interpreted as

(a) an effect of keeping a food diary
(b) an effect of exercise
(c) an interaction effect of exercise and keeping a diary.

Of course you could distinguish these by having diary-only and

exercise-only
groups, and you're no doubt familiar with studies of a similar nature

(control
vs diet vs exercise vs diet+exercise).

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/



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Old September 23rd, 2004, 05:25 AM
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"Doug Freese" wrote in message
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"Sam" wrote in message
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WHAT? Ex phys texts are incredibly fun to read. I have read a lot
of

them!


Do you find Noakes fun to read? That's like saying it's fun reading an
advanced Calculus text.

-DF


I do like reading Noakes. Do not always agree with him, but like to read
him. Of course this comes from a person who reads the original research out
of the journals.


  #354  
Old September 23rd, 2004, 05:29 AM
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"MU" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:07:12 GMT, Tony wrote:

The body can also be trained to burn fats better by doing extremely long
distance at low intensity.


Tony, you need to get off this idea that this exercise or that exercise
accelerates fat burning.

Fat is burned in the absence of other energy dependent chemistries being
available.


You need to read some studies then. When I get back to work, I will give
you the citations to several. One of the effects of endurance training is
to increase the contribution of fatty acid oxidation at a given intensity.


  #355  
Old September 23rd, 2004, 08:52 AM
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:57:10 -0500, "JMA"
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Actually there are those on ASD who think the name would suit him better if
the "m" were an "n" instead.

Jenn

Well, I for one haven't forgotten the day he described himself that
way. Ig may hide his own posts, but it's still there if you google
the "weigh in and the day after" thread (5 August 2004).

janice
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 08:52 AM
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:57:10 -0500, "JMA"
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Actually there are those on ASD who think the name would suit him better if
the "m" were an "n" instead.

Jenn

Well, I for one haven't forgotten the day he described himself that
way. Ig may hide his own posts, but it's still there if you google
the "weigh in and the day after" thread (5 August 2004).

janice
still laughing
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 12:20 PM
JMA
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"janice" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:57:10 -0500, "JMA"
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Actually there are those on ASD who think the name would suit him better
if
the "m" were an "n" instead.

Jenn

Well, I for one haven't forgotten the day he described himself that
way. Ig may hide his own posts, but it's still there if you google
the "weigh in and the day after" thread (5 August 2004).

janice
still laughing


Right, and *we're* the ones he called retarded. Careful not to agree with
HIS choice of name or he will get upset again - rational person that he is.

Jenn



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Old September 23rd, 2004, 12:20 PM
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"janice" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:57:10 -0500, "JMA"
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Actually there are those on ASD who think the name would suit him better
if
the "m" were an "n" instead.

Jenn

Well, I for one haven't forgotten the day he described himself that
way. Ig may hide his own posts, but it's still there if you google
the "weigh in and the day after" thread (5 August 2004).

janice
still laughing


Right, and *we're* the ones he called retarded. Careful not to agree with
HIS choice of name or he will get upset again - rational person that he is.

Jenn



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Old September 23rd, 2004, 01:54 PM
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MU wrote:


I'm sure you have no clue who I am.



Well, Great Athlete God, who are you?
Why hide behind a munged address and initials?

The respected posters here use real names.

Mike Tennent
"IronPenguin"

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Old September 23rd, 2004, 02:13 PM
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On 9/22/2004 5:10 PM, Dot wrote:
Phil M. wrote:

Ignoramus13667 wrote:


What should I take to be on the run? My thinking is, I should take my
ID, a note with all my details (phone numbers etc), a credit card,
$100 or so in cash.




Don't forget the TP.



Isn't that what the $100 cash is for?
I'm puzzled about why one would need $100 cash for a running race. OTOH,
maybe that's my problem

Dot

Me too. I know many cyclists bring $2-$5 with them -- in case they run
out of water on a long ride or if a good samaritan helps them and they
want to offer gas money or something.

--
jmk in NC
 




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