My Dreamfields Experience

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:30:41 GMT, "Evelyn Ruut"
wrote:

We couldn't tell the difference either, and we are used to eating top shelf
pasta (in the past)....so it is very nearly too good to be true!

Barilla? That was my favorite. We grew up with Creamettes.

Carol
--
227/214.5/150 (official weigh-in day: Thursday)
July Challenge Goal: 209 (5.5 pounds)
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:35:42 GMT, "rosie read and post"
wrote:

Regarding Dr. Richard K. Bernstein:

AND he wants his diabetics to eat 10X their GOAL weight.

1500 doesn't seem out of line to me. That's pretty close to my daily
consumption anyway. Sometimes, it's way lower, especially on hot, humid
days.

BTW, we got our air conditioner working, AND we found the furnace filter!
It's only 55 degrees right now, but the humidity is 94%, so the a/c is on.
My asthmatic lungs are very happy with this arrangement.

Carol
--
227/214.5/150 (official weigh-in day: Thursday)
July Challenge Goal: 209 (5.5 pounds)
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

On 07 Jul 2004 14:08:53 GMT, ospam (Susan ) wrote:

Well, you still have some room for more metformin. Have you considered a well
documented supplement, like alpha lipoic acid? Got rid of my neuropathies,
it's a good insulin sensitizer.

No, I haven't, but if my doc doesn't up my Metformin, I'll go looking for
some. Thanks for the information!

Carol
--
227/214.5/150 (official weigh-in day: Thursday)
July Challenge Goal: 209 (5.5 pounds)
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

On 07 Jul 2004 14:08:53 GMT, ospam (Susan ) wrote:

Well, you still have some room for more metformin. Have you considered a well
documented supplement, like alpha lipoic acid? Got rid of my neuropathies,
it's a good insulin sensitizer.

No, I haven't, but if my doc doesn't up my Metformin, I'll go looking for
some. Thanks for the information!

Carol
--
227/214.5/150 (official weigh-in day: Thursday)
July Challenge Goal: 209 (5.5 pounds)
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

Damsel,

Congrats on getting your fasting level down!!!!!!!

It looks like the Dreamfields does work for you. I just wish I knew how
many of the carbs eventually hit the bloodstream--even if slowly so I could
gauge how dangerous it is to combine the pasta with a fatty sauce.

I get good numbers with the Dreamfields stuff too, but I get surprisingly
good numbers with regular pasta too--that's why they've always recommended
pasta for people with diabetes.


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:23:29 -0400, "Jenny"
wrote:

Damsel,

Test at 4 and 5 hours and watch your fasting the next day. A friend of
mine
did that and saw persistent higher blood sugars for many hours.

I tested up to three hours. At that point, my BG was 118, following a
pre-meal BG of 119. But I'll test at 4 and 5 hours then next time I have
it. Thanks for the tip. My fasting BG today was 101, which is excellent
for me.

My take on Dreamfields is that you should think of it as acting like
pasta
plus precose. It slows the digestion of the carbs, but they will slowly
metabolize as they make their way through your system and you may see a
slightly higher fasting number the next morning too.

That means you do get the total calories and probably most of the carbs.
If
your current diet plan can tolerate that, great. If you need very tight
control to lose or control blood sugar, probably it's best to eat it
infrequently.

Yeah, I don't plan on making it a regular part of my meal plans. A
serving of the pasta, along with a side salad, would make a lovely meal,
though. Last night, I ate only the pasta (with butter, parmesan and
garlic), so I could see exactly what the pasta alone would do. Next time,
the salad will be included.

I'm trying this mainly because Crash loves pasta, and won't eat it because
I "can't". This only applies to meals. He'll have all kinds of weird
snacks. Go figure.

Oh! My e-mail reply just arrived from Dreamfields. Boy, they're fast!
This is what their message had to say:

-----
Hi Carol and thanks for letting us know how much you
enjoyed Dreamfields ~ we really appreciate it. We
look forward to continuing to provide you with great
tasting products that are the delicious way to enjoy
healthy carb living. We are going to add additional
shapes some time this fall so I'll put your vote in
for a lasagna noodle!! Thanks
-----

Their site said that they're working on a potato product as well as a rice
product.

Carol
--
227/214.5/150 (official weigh-in day: Thursday)
July Challenge Goal: 209 (5.5 pounds)
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

Damsel,

Congrats on getting your fasting level down!!!!!!!

It looks like the Dreamfields does work for you. I just wish I knew how
many of the carbs eventually hit the bloodstream--even if slowly so I could
gauge how dangerous it is to combine the pasta with a fatty sauce.

I get good numbers with the Dreamfields stuff too, but I get surprisingly
good numbers with regular pasta too--that's why they've always recommended
pasta for people with diabetes.


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:23:29 -0400, "Jenny"
wrote:

Damsel,

Test at 4 and 5 hours and watch your fasting the next day. A friend of
mine
did that and saw persistent higher blood sugars for many hours.

I tested up to three hours. At that point, my BG was 118, following a
pre-meal BG of 119. But I'll test at 4 and 5 hours then next time I have
it. Thanks for the tip. My fasting BG today was 101, which is excellent
for me.

My take on Dreamfields is that you should think of it as acting like
pasta
plus precose. It slows the digestion of the carbs, but they will slowly
metabolize as they make their way through your system and you may see a
slightly higher fasting number the next morning too.

That means you do get the total calories and probably most of the carbs.
If
your current diet plan can tolerate that, great. If you need very tight
control to lose or control blood sugar, probably it's best to eat it
infrequently.

Yeah, I don't plan on making it a regular part of my meal plans. A
serving of the pasta, along with a side salad, would make a lovely meal,
though. Last night, I ate only the pasta (with butter, parmesan and
garlic), so I could see exactly what the pasta alone would do. Next time,
the salad will be included.

I'm trying this mainly because Crash loves pasta, and won't eat it because
I "can't". This only applies to meals. He'll have all kinds of weird
snacks. Go figure.

Oh! My e-mail reply just arrived from Dreamfields. Boy, they're fast!
This is what their message had to say:

-----
Hi Carol and thanks for letting us know how much you
enjoyed Dreamfields ~ we really appreciate it. We
look forward to continuing to provide you with great
tasting products that are the delicious way to enjoy
healthy carb living. We are going to add additional
shapes some time this fall so I'll put your vote in
for a lasagna noodle!! Thanks
-----

Their site said that they're working on a potato product as well as a rice
product.

Carol
--
227/214.5/150 (official weigh-in day: Thursday)
July Challenge Goal: 209 (5.5 pounds)
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:22:15 -0500, Damsel in dis Dress
wrote:
...snippage...
I'd love to hear comments/recommendations from other diabetics. If I don't
eat it, Crash will. But it would be cool to be able to sit at the table
and eat the same dinner together.

Carol
OK. I don't understand something here. You want to lose the excess
weight. You've been having problems losing recently IIRC. And you
have a multitude of BG associated challenges. Yet you are
experimenting with food that you already know is a problem for you.
What is wrong with this picture?

Does the new Bernstein book really leave room for pasta in his plan?
Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:22:15 -0500, Damsel in dis Dress
wrote:
...snippage...
I'd love to hear comments/recommendations from other diabetics. If I don't
eat it, Crash will. But it would be cool to be able to sit at the table
and eat the same dinner together.

Carol
OK. I don't understand something here. You want to lose the excess
weight. You've been having problems losing recently IIRC. And you
have a multitude of BG associated challenges. Yet you are
experimenting with food that you already know is a problem for you.
What is wrong with this picture?

Does the new Bernstein book really leave room for pasta in his plan?
Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com

Jenny wrote:

Susan,

Alpha lipoic acid didn't do anything for me and it is extremely expensive.
I read a couple of diabetes boards where people reported similar results.
Several people developed serious stomach problems after taking ALA too.

I suspect ALA may work better if a person is not highly insulin resistant. I
didn't get any effect from a prescription drug that is supposed to boost
insulin, but I suspect that is because my insulin is already high but my
cells are not responding to it.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!


ALA is supposed to help directly with insulin resistance.

"Numerous additional studies have indicated that alpha lipoic acid (ALA)
is useful for the treatment of diabetes mellitus. ALA stimulates
increased glucose utilization in muscle cells and significantly reduces
human insulin resistance/sensitivity. This process may occur via an
insulin signaling pathway. ALA also helps to prevent free radical
cellular damage caused by elevated insulin levels."

Jennifer

Damsel in dis Dress writes:

while searching for the Dreamfields site
to see if they make lasagna noodles (they don't).

Carol, you don't have to have lasagna noodles to make lasagna....Use the penne,
which will "flatten out" when cooked, and layer as usual.

Connie
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