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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:22:48 -0500, "Roger Zoul"
announced in front of God and everybody: If you're anything like me -- it really just comes from loving ice cream. If you like that stuff, it's its own trigger. Before the Breyer's CarbSmart ice cream, I'd have said the same thing -- ice cream has always been a major downfall for me. But for some reason I can eat a small portion of the CarbSmart stuff and not only does it not trigger cravings, I'm genuinely satisfied with one scoop. This is such a new thing for me, after a lifetime (literally) of having no control around ice cream, that I boggle over it every time I have some. I'm steering clear of the Endulge, though, after Peter's post. Yikes. I've never tried it and now I'm pretty sure I ought not. Dawn |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:05:19 -0500, Myway
announced in front of God and everybody: Russell Stover low-carb candies is about the same for me, spouse loves them and can eat only one per week, not me! I have to stay away from them completely. Brings back the old "sugar monkey" feelings. lol I love their mint patties and yeah, I could probably go overboard on them. It's my terror of the intense intestinal distress that I suffer if I eat more than two or three that keeps me in check! Dawn |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
In article , ignoramus14140
@NOSPAM.14140.invalid says... Consider this Atkins Endulge chocolate bar: ### Atkins Endulge Chocolate Crunch Candy Bar Here's a sweet reward for ### all your healthy eating! This is the part that bothers me. My life-long problems with food have their roots in the way my family used food as a reward -- or the withholding of it as punishment. I'll bet there are many in this ng who can identify with that. I think it's important for those of us who are trying to change our relationships with food to break the link between sweet-tasting foods and "reward." We need to find better ways to reward ourselves. -- ************************************ Linda Harms New York, NY Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. Macbeth, Act 5 Scene 5 |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:42:24 -0500, "carla"
announced in front of God and everybody: One's default assumption should always be that anything posted is opinion. Any alternative is just too disturbing to contemplate. (Who would treat something as absolute truth merely because it lacks a goofy "IMHO" tag?) That's simply not true, any more than it is in face-to-face conversation. ESPECIALLY in a newsgroup where nutrition advice is being bandied about -- it's important to make it clear when you're sharing what you believe to be facts vs. bald-faced opinion. Now, Iggie's remark about "never eat junk food, period" is pretty obviously opinion. But still ... some newbie could stumble across his remark early in the game and think this was some sort of hard-and-fast low-carb rule. In my opinion. :-) Dawn |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:05:19 -0500, Myway wrote:
Roger Zoul wrote: If you're anything like me -- it really just comes from loving ice cream. If you like that stuff, it's its own trigger. marengo wrote: :: :: I'm not quite sure which ingredient caused the cravings, but I know :: I have to avoid it in the future. Back to my plain meat and :: vegetables, and occassional sugar-free popsicle (I can eat just one :: of those with no trouble!) Russell Stover low-carb candies is about the same for me, spouse loves them and can eat only one per week, not me! I have to stay away from them completely. Brings back the old "sugar monkey" feelings. lol Myway I ate ONE once... just to try it. My god... almost instant discomfort and trips to the bathroom. You couldn't pay me to eat another in this lifetime! Cynthia |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
On 27 Jan 2004 19:42:09 GMT, Ignoramus14140
announced in front of God and everybody: In article , Dawn Taylor wrote: Now, Iggie's remark about "never eat junk food, period" is pretty obviously opinion. But still ... some newbie could stumble across his remark early in the game and think this was some sort of hard-and-fast low-carb rule. Would these dieters be hurt if they followed my suggestion? Well, perhaps. After years of carb addiciton and bad choices, they may find themselves miserable and unable to stick to the WOE long enough for their habits to adjust without a treat now and then. They may give up right out of the gate because they think they can't ever have chocolate (which you classify as "junk food") or have a protein bar for lunch when they don't have the time to do anything else. Some people, like it or not, need the occasional psychological crutches of low-carb ice cream and sugar-free candy and crunchy Hey! It's Just Cheese! snacks to support the rest of the healthy changes they've made. And some of us just like to eat a wide range of food, from perfectly cooked pork loin and gorgonzola-studded green beans to the occasional handful of Pumpkorn. Food is about more than simple fueling of the body -- it brings pleasure, too. The goal is to integrate the pleasure and the healthy choices. Basically, not saying "in my opinion" sometimes means erroneous information couched as fact, especially if someone doesn't have the context of knowing your cranky, plain-spoken, often incorrect ways . Many people can incorporate low-carb "junk food" -- in moderation -- into their diet and do just fine. Dawn |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:42:51 -0800, Dawn Taylor
wrote: But for some reason I can eat a small portion of the CarbSmart stuff and not only does it not trigger cravings, I'm genuinely satisfied with one scoop. This is such a new thing for me, after a lifetime (literally) of having no control around ice cream, that I boggle over it every time I have some. I have had *exactly* the same experience and it is really incredible, isn't it? I used to eat pints (and more) of ice cream, but a couple of spoonfuls of the CarbSmart and I'm satisfied and no wild cravings afterwards. Unbelievable. I'm steering clear of the Endulge, though, after Peter's post. Yikes. I've never tried it and now I'm pretty sure I ought not. I have not had any problems with the Atkin's ice cream, but it is so much more expensive and not nearly as good as they Breyer's that I can't see ever buying it again. |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
Ignoramus14140 wrote:
In article , Dawn Taylor wrote: Now, Iggie's remark about "never eat junk food, period" is pretty obviously opinion. But still ... some newbie could stumble across his remark early in the game and think this was some sort of hard-and-fast low-carb rule. Would these dieters be hurt if they followed my suggestion? i Not if they can follow it. Otherwise, an absolutely rigid approach may make LCing seem just totally impossible. -- Jean B. |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
"Ignoramus14140" wrote in message ... In article , carla wrote: marengo wrote in message s.com... "Ignoramus18248" wrote in message ... | Never eat junk food period. I find it disgusting that Atkins got into | junk food peddling. What a shame. | Please add IMHO (In My Humble Opinion) to statements that are just your opinion and not n, thanks. It's proper netiquette. It's also redundant. One's default assumption should always be that anything posted is opinion. Any alternative is just too disturbing to contemplate. (Who would treat something as absolute truth merely because it lacks a goofy "IMHO" tag?) On the topic, there's been a great deal of discussion here (some of which I am sure you've seen) about the extent to which sugar alcohols spike blood sugar. While I don't share Ignoramus's draconian (and authoritarian and downright nosy) attitudes about what other people should eat, I have been afraid to try any products with sugar alcohols. Having read repeatedly that Carla, while I respect your opinion, how is not eating junk food draconian? I eat (and approve of) the entire universe of foods, sans junk food and sugar. That's hardly draconian, it is simply common sense. some snippage I don't know you well enough to know whether you are being deliberately disingenuous. I have to assume that you know full well that your issuing absolute edicts frequently irritates people on this newsgroup. *You* never touch a piece of "junk food" (by some unspecified definition) - how nice for you. For most people though, I don't think a scoop of Atkins ice cream here or there - or even a piece of *gasp* real chocolate - is going to cause problems. Anyway, that's the part that I think is draconian; it's unnecessary to be so absolute, about diet or anything else. Oh yes, In My Opinion of course. It's not even clear to me, what qualilfies as "junk" to you? Clearly products sold in stores like candy bars, ice cream, etc. fall into that category. What about the ice cream I make at home with cream, berries, and splenda? is that "junk"? How about my low-carb pancakes made with protein powder? You don't have to answer these questions, though I am curious. I can tell you right now that even if you deem them "junk" I am not going to stop eating them. There are limits to how many restrictions I can put on my diet if I want a sustainable plan. This is probably true for most people. carla |
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I won't make this mistake again ... Atkins Endulge Premium Ice Cream
"Ignoramus14140" wrote in message ... In article m, marengo wrote: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message ... | Learn the difference between a suggestion and a commandment. Do you honestly | think Peter needs you to command to him that he "never eat junk food | period." Do you think he'll pay any attention to you? | | You just amaze me. | The ironic thing is that I have just lost 30 (yes, now thirty!) pounds in the past six weeks - since December 15th. I would love to see Ignoramus' weight loss for the same period. It's amusing to me that he's telling me how and what to eat. Since december 15, I lost about 3 lbs. I am at normal weight and have very modest weight goals for 2004, to lose 10-15 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle. I hope to not go below 165 lbs in 2004. I am curious though, you lost 30 lbs in six weeks, that's 5 lbs per week. Such rapid weight loss may have some negative consequences. Perhaps it is worth trying to do it a bit slower or do some health checks etc. It's unfortunate that he expresses himself so caustically and arrogantly. I think that he probably has the same basic ideas about eating that most of us do; he's just annoying in the way he presents his ideas. I agree with him that we shouldn't make a steady diet of just junk food, however, he is wrong in making a blanket statement that seemingly should apply to all people all the time. We are not lower animals, like dogs, who can happily eat nothing but the same dog food day in and day out. We need a variety in our diets and occassionally enjoy something pleasurable. I agree with you in that I express my opinion in a somewhat extreme manner. I mean, a junk food bar per month does not kill anyone. Ig, I am glad to hear you say this. I mean that sincerely and without sarcasm. The reason for me expressing my opinion on this matter in such a manner, is that I want it to be a little shocking, so that it is remembered. There are too many people who think that low carbing means switching from regular junk food to LC labeled junk food. To those people, a message needs to have a bit of shock value to get through so much denial. So long as you understand that such an approach may also have the effect of causing some people to ignore you. They might think, "That guy's a fanatic, I could never be that strict with myself because [a whole host of reasons, some of which you might find legitimate and others not]." carla |
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