How to diet

I` m very thin , currently finishing a diet to get even thinner.Been on
several diets thru the decades..all successful. Not "high" metabolism, (
I was fat a chid, got thin in y late teens) just focusand knowledge.
Forget any "fad" or "plan" diet. Keep in mind these precepts : dump the
scale, it will give inaccurate readings due to water
retention/elimanation. The heavier you are the faster you will lose, but
as you get lighter the losses will take longer. Become familar with the
caloric value of the foods you eat and how many calories your body will
burn at various weights at "normal" activity. Forget exercise , most
likely it will just make you hungry. Best long term plan : ( although
even a candy bar diet works,,,the bars weigh little ) two meals a day ,
one at about ten/eleven AM , the other at about five/six PM. Total of
about 1,100 calories/day. VERY IMPORTANT : never let yourself get too
hungry, this is the number one reason diets fail, when you REALLY are
too hungry, drink a can of real soda , or eat an apple, then resume the
standard diet. A heavy ( 250 lbs.) person will lose about a pound a day
this way . Failue to maintain this routine and reach goal weight will be
boredom, lack of real incentive , or lack of patience. Once goal weight
has been accomplished a knowlede of calories will allow the individual
to make various daily trade-offs to keep within the allowed number of
calories/day. You can eat anything you want, when you want ( tho not as
much as you want) in this way. The mirror will be your judge and jury.
Forget ANY excuse you`ve heard or manufactured to excuse your certain
diet failue. Stephen

You have an interesting system which works well for you I assume...Why you
suggest dropping exercise is beyond me...Well I guess I understand but find
it to be very important in your overall health and ability to lose and still
not starve...2 meals a day...Again I guess it works for you but everyone is
different and often more small meals makes better sense...Why would you
recommend a sugared soda...Just for the extra calories?...Apple sure...In
addition 2 meals a day will tend to leave most people hungry and 1100
calories a day for a 250 lb person is low...Sure you will lose but will you
remain on it?...I'm a ex 350 lb guy who is now at 188...I eat 3 meals a day
and plan on snacks in the evening...I exercise daily and think I may have
finally beat this addiction...Anyway I just felt I had to put in my 2
cents...Good luck on your journey...GG

"S D" wrote in message
...
I` m very thin , currently finishing a diet to get even thinner.Been on
several diets thru the decades..all successful. Not "high" metabolism, (
I was fat a chid, got thin in y late teens) just focusand knowledge.
Forget any "fad" or "plan" diet. Keep in mind these precepts : dump the
scale, it will give inaccurate readings due to water
retention/elimanation. The heavier you are the faster you will lose, but
as you get lighter the losses will take longer. Become familar with the
caloric value of the foods you eat and how many calories your body will
burn at various weights at "normal" activity. Forget exercise , most
likely it will just make you hungry. Best long term plan : ( although
even a candy bar diet works,,,the bars weigh little ) two meals a day ,
one at about ten/eleven AM , the other at about five/six PM. Total of
about 1,100 calories/day. VERY IMPORTANT : never let yourself get too
hungry, this is the number one reason diets fail, when you REALLY are
too hungry, drink a can of real soda , or eat an apple, then resume the
standard diet. A heavy ( 250 lbs.) person will lose about a pound a day
this way . Failue to maintain this routine and reach goal weight will be
boredom, lack of real incentive , or lack of patience. Once goal weight
has been accomplished a knowlede of calories will allow the individual
to make various daily trade-offs to keep within the allowed number of
calories/day. You can eat anything you want, when you want ( tho not as
much as you want) in this way. The mirror will be your judge and jury.
Forget ANY excuse you`ve heard or manufactured to excuse your certain
diet failue. Stephen

If anyone can`t "maintain" 188 lbs. ( heavy ) he/she is a glutton.
Really fat people who just get less fat, or not fat , but still chunky
(not thin ) are in a completely different situation than someone looking
for the 120 lb. or lower range. Anyone 350 lbs, was so far out of
reality with what food should, orcan be he/she can hardly be trusted to
give advise. Trying to "maintain" 188 is a joke , you must think not
stuffing youself at meals is a big feat. I enjoy everything I eat while
not obsessing about food ( tho it is always a concern ) Americans are so
****in` fat it is a gross out. Two meals represent real meals, calorie
wise, soda gives fast energy (can use OJ also ). Fasting is also a good
way to lose maybe 5-10 lbs. ( it is ....fast), but too difficult to
maintain over the long haul. 1100 calories/day is pleanty for anyone
properly motivated ( sees the end product , not the journey) I`m on 600
cal/ day , a few days from the final goal ( which is very, very thin )
After four or so days of an 1100 ( or 600 calories , for tougher minded
people) you get " locked in " to the lower intake of food and then its
just a matter of time passing. The obese and fatties crying about their
failure to lose weight are fat heads and losers in another way. Even if
they magically did get thin they`d just gain it back. Want sweet talk ?
Then stay FAT. SD

You know a diet is perhaps the one thing in life in which what you put
into it is what you get out of it,,,that`s its strength and explains why
people who fail at diets fail ( they have to do it themselves) , `course
there`s stomach reduction and liposuction. My scale has not dropped an
ounce in 17 days, tho in that time I`ve lost about six lbs. Mirror shows
( slow, but certain ). One time went 12 days without a bowel movement,
system does not recognize it has to work with as little food ( one small
meal) as I`ve been eating. A laxative every six days deals with this no
problem. I`ve had really big problems trying to fall asleep the last
three weeks ( something totallly new), but each AM I`m visibly lighter.
I could maintain this indefinately [ tho I do realize how tough it is to
be on a long term ( months ) diet], My focus now is how I`ll divide up
my alloted calories during the day when the diet is completed , or if
I`ll really stay at this weight, or go back to about 15 lbs, heavier. A
serious weight lifting program to gain muscle mass and serious stamina
buiding exercise program to compliment a fat concious attitude would be
the ideal, but I did not go that way SD

On Mar 5, 5:09 pm, (S D) wrote:
You know a diet is perhaps the one thing in life in which what you put
into it is what you get out of it,,,that`s its strength and explains why
people who fail at diets fail ( they have to do it themselves) , `course
there`s stomach reduction and liposuction. My scale has not dropped an
ounce in 17 days, tho in that time I`ve lost about six lbs. Mirror shows
( slow, but certain ). One time went 12 days without a bowel movement,
system does not recognize it has to work with as little food ( one small
meal) as I`ve been eating. A laxative every six days deals with this no
problem. I`ve had really big problems trying to fall asleep the last
three weeks ( something totallly new), but each AM I`m visibly lighter.
I could maintain this indefinately [ tho I do realize how tough it is to
be on a long term ( months ) diet], My focus now is how I`ll divide up
my alloted calories during the day when the diet is completed , or if
I`ll really stay at this weight, or go back to about 15 lbs, heavier. A
serious weight lifting program to gain muscle mass and serious stamina
buiding exercise program to compliment a fat concious attitude would be
the ideal, but I did not go that way SD

SD --

Your approach makes a lot of sense to me! Seems very straightforward,
low calories, etc.

Strikes me that you probably are feeling less hunger now than you did
when you were eating three square meals a day.

Very inspirational! Good going!

Yours truly,

Caleb

Absolutely not, I`m almost always a little hungry and weak, but never
have a headache . It`s doable and CERTAIN as to results ( also simple) .
SD

As to not feeling hungry or deprived while losing weight : I`ve read
that fasting accomplishes this. It is necessary to eliminate all toxins
from the body (tea, coffee, smoking) use laxatives to clean out noxious
waste, and drink matbe 64 ounces of water a day. I`ve also read that
thin people and those who "feel" the cold ....both are conditions that
describe me, do not do well on fasts ( probably brings on headaches )
so its not for me ( or good to use for other than a few pounds loss )
I`m an old hand at dieting tho this is the first one I`ve been on in
15-20 years. I used to enjoy reading some of the crackpot/fraudulant
books on diets, in the end believe me it is calories in and that`s it
unless you can go nuts with really arduous exercise over a long period.
The idea of building a diet program to fit a person`s profile is nuts,
just doctor stuff to make youthink they know something. Any diet that
gets you where you want to go is a good diet , but there should be some
thought to not eating much filler low cal food su ch as lettuce as
you`ll also want to gt the stomach used to less mass for the time when
you`re on maintenance ( shrinking the stomach). In the end it comes down
to do you want to make a sacrifice in your life now to get to where you
think you want to be: A 250 lb. person may never want to eat a whole
lot less as must the 140 lb. person. The idea that diets don`t work and
it`s tougher for an older person to lose weight is crap. This is one
thing you can do yourself. SD

On Mar 5, 2:47 pm, (S D) wrote:
I` m very thin , currently finishing a diet to get even thinner.

Why? Anorexia much?
You're a guy and you want to be skinny?

Forget exercise, most likely it will just make you hungry.

Lack of execise makes you skinnyfat. Not attractive. Not healthy.

never let yourself get too hungry, this is the number one reason
diets fail

Diets in general do not 'fail'as anyone can lose weight one way or
another from starvation to grapefruits etc, but losing weight the
right way and then keeping it off AND BEING HEALTHY as in a lifestyle
change. Permanent healthy eating choices. What you are promoting is
not.



joanne

On Mar 5, 4:25 pm, (S D) wrote:
If anyone can`t "maintain" 188 lbs. ( heavy ) he/she is a glutton.

[ snip ]

Trying to "maintain" 188 is a joke , you must think not
stuffing youself at meals is a big feat.

You don't know anything about the 188 pound guy. For all you know,
could be:

- medium or large framed
- moderately muscular
- lean
- ... and 6'4" tall! Hahaha.

On Mar 5, 4:25 pm, (S D) wrote:
Really fat people who just get less fat, or not fat , but still chunky
(not thin ) are in a completely different situation than someone looking
for the 120 lb. or lower range.

Is that what /you/ are shooting for?

Did you say your name was Stephen or Stephanie?

Are you in a homosexual relationship, trying to be the submissive,
effeminate partner to some beefy guy? Or are you a 5-foot-tall horse
riding jockey?

You are not making yourself attractive to any normal-minded, red-
blooded female. In terms of raw physical attributes, women by and
large prefer strong, muscular men, who are cut to a low body fat
level: broad shoulders, powerful arms, small waist.

/Ripped/ is what you want to be, not /thin/. Do you understand the
difference?

600
cal/ day , a few days from the final goal ( which is very, very thin )

But how lean is that? What is your estimated body fat percentage, and
what is the goal?