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A couple of questions
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 15:30:28, Ignoramus19431
wrote: It also depends on the person. Some people are so healthy that regular carb loading would be nothing for them. They'd eat a big plate of pasta and not be hungry for the rest of th day. Some people are not so lucky and would experience a rise in blood glucose and then a fall and some hunger due to that. i Yes, but we are not talking about "carb loading" here; we're talking about a helping of pasta as part of a balanced main meal! -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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A couple of questions
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 15:30:28, Ignoramus19431
wrote: It also depends on the person. Some people are so healthy that regular carb loading would be nothing for them. They'd eat a big plate of pasta and not be hungry for the rest of th day. Some people are not so lucky and would experience a rise in blood glucose and then a fall and some hunger due to that. i Yes, but we are not talking about "carb loading" here; we're talking about a helping of pasta as part of a balanced main meal! -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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A couple of questions
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 13:48:32, Doug Freyburger
wrote: Annabel Smyth wrote: The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes eat salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme. But why pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index, so Bad For You. Wouldn't brown rice be better? Are YOU a top athlete? I'm not! Why should I care in the least about eating programs for top athletes? I'm not a top athlete (although I am a triple international gold medallist in my sport), but the reason why I care is that athletes, of all people, eat healthily. I would have thought a diet based on chicken or fish, fresh vegetables and pasta (or, perhaps, rice) would be healthy by anybody's standards, no? I know right now they don't apply to me in the least. I couldn't care less why some heavy competitive athlete going out for a professional sports team is supposed to eat pasta. I was brought up to believe that a healthy diet contained healthy amounts of complex carbohydrates; obviously sugar, being a simple carbohydrate is out, and modern thinking, I know, looks at the GI index of all carbohydrate foods. Sure, for me brown rice would work better than pasta. Likely that's true for you too. Unless you compete it's unlikely eating programs for top athletes are of any use to you. Why would a healthy eating programme *not* be of use to me, or anybody else? -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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A couple of questions
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 13:48:32, Doug Freyburger
wrote: Annabel Smyth wrote: The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes eat salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme. But why pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index, so Bad For You. Wouldn't brown rice be better? Are YOU a top athlete? I'm not! Why should I care in the least about eating programs for top athletes? I'm not a top athlete (although I am a triple international gold medallist in my sport), but the reason why I care is that athletes, of all people, eat healthily. I would have thought a diet based on chicken or fish, fresh vegetables and pasta (or, perhaps, rice) would be healthy by anybody's standards, no? I know right now they don't apply to me in the least. I couldn't care less why some heavy competitive athlete going out for a professional sports team is supposed to eat pasta. I was brought up to believe that a healthy diet contained healthy amounts of complex carbohydrates; obviously sugar, being a simple carbohydrate is out, and modern thinking, I know, looks at the GI index of all carbohydrate foods. Sure, for me brown rice would work better than pasta. Likely that's true for you too. Unless you compete it's unlikely eating programs for top athletes are of any use to you. Why would a healthy eating programme *not* be of use to me, or anybody else? -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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A couple of questions
On 7/26/2004 8:49 PM, Ignoramus19431 wrote:
In article , Chris Braun wrote: On 26 Jul 2004 13:42:29 GMT, Ignoramus19431 wrote: The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes eat salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme. But why pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index, so Bad For You. Wouldn't brown rice be better? Are you an athlete? Are you performing strenuous exercise? (say, running 10 miles in the morning to keep in shape and get in the mood for the day full of real exercise) I've never found the concept of GI index to have any weight-loss relevance for me. Others' experience may differ. Are you saying that GI is not a good measurement, or that for you, it does not matter if you eat 100 calories from sugar vs, say, 100 calories from fat, as far as your satiety is concerned? Yup. Even the "discoverers" of GI say that it's not a good measure! A banana measures differently depending on ripes, individual consuming it, etc. Pasta measures differently depending on cooking time, type of flour, individual consuming it, and so on. -- jmk in NC |
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A couple of questions
On 7/26/2004 8:49 PM, Ignoramus19431 wrote:
In article , Chris Braun wrote: On 26 Jul 2004 13:42:29 GMT, Ignoramus19431 wrote: The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes eat salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme. But why pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index, so Bad For You. Wouldn't brown rice be better? Are you an athlete? Are you performing strenuous exercise? (say, running 10 miles in the morning to keep in shape and get in the mood for the day full of real exercise) I've never found the concept of GI index to have any weight-loss relevance for me. Others' experience may differ. Are you saying that GI is not a good measurement, or that for you, it does not matter if you eat 100 calories from sugar vs, say, 100 calories from fat, as far as your satiety is concerned? Yup. Even the "discoverers" of GI say that it's not a good measure! A banana measures differently depending on ripes, individual consuming it, etc. Pasta measures differently depending on cooking time, type of flour, individual consuming it, and so on. -- jmk in NC |
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A couple of questions
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 at 12:45:18, Ignoramus25231
wrote: If you are overweight and pasta makes you hungry and you find yourself overeating after a few hours passes after your pasta meal, then you probably need to reassess your pasta eating. Why would eating pasta make one hungry? I find that eating a healthy, balanced amount of carbohydrate with my meal, whether this be pasta, rice, potatoes or bread, helps me feel far less hungry and more satisfied. A good sign of this would be trying to lose weight and being unable to. If you find yourself in this position, then, junking pasta would be a good option. No, because what would one then have left to eat? Just the tomato sauce.... I don't think I could cope with that! I really *would* feel hungry, then! There is not a great deal of difference between how "simple carbohydrates" and "complex carbohydrates" are metabolized. No, but you get "more bang for your buck" with simple carbohydrates - *all* sugar does is provide energy, so, while all carbohydrates are 4 Kc per gramme, you get more pure carbohydrate in a teaspoon of sugar than you do in a slice of bread. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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A couple of questions
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 at 12:45:18, Ignoramus25231
wrote: If you are overweight and pasta makes you hungry and you find yourself overeating after a few hours passes after your pasta meal, then you probably need to reassess your pasta eating. Why would eating pasta make one hungry? I find that eating a healthy, balanced amount of carbohydrate with my meal, whether this be pasta, rice, potatoes or bread, helps me feel far less hungry and more satisfied. A good sign of this would be trying to lose weight and being unable to. If you find yourself in this position, then, junking pasta would be a good option. No, because what would one then have left to eat? Just the tomato sauce.... I don't think I could cope with that! I really *would* feel hungry, then! There is not a great deal of difference between how "simple carbohydrates" and "complex carbohydrates" are metabolized. No, but you get "more bang for your buck" with simple carbohydrates - *all* sugar does is provide energy, so, while all carbohydrates are 4 Kc per gramme, you get more pure carbohydrate in a teaspoon of sugar than you do in a slice of bread. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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A couple of questions
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 at 13:36:48, Ignoramus25231
wrote: A regular slice of white bread contains 13 grams of carbs. A teaspoon of sugar contains 4 grams of carbs. Yes, but the bread contains other nutrients, the sugar doesn't. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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A couple of questions
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 at 13:36:48, Ignoramus25231
wrote: A regular slice of white bread contains 13 grams of carbs. A teaspoon of sugar contains 4 grams of carbs. Yes, but the bread contains other nutrients, the sugar doesn't. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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