named vs. homegrown diets Curiosity about posters who drop out of this NG

"ignoramous" wrote in message
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I agree. I wonder if the people who go on various named diets last
less than the people who decide to simply switch to a healthier
lifestyle.

I do not remember you, beeswing, beverly, myself, monte, Crafting mom,
etc, mentioning that you were on south beach or on pritikin or atkins
or whatever. We just started eating better food, less of it, and
exercising. Whereas most posters who mention that they are on a
specific diet or program somehow or other disappear from the NG.

I suspect that it is a personality issue rather than the diets being
bad. I cannot at this point pinpoint it exactly.


Well, when I started I came in to asd to learn more about atkins and I did
do atkins or a version thereof for about 4 months or so. I was not
successful at it, as it did not curb my appetite, and I continued to crave
sweets, which i'd end up giving into.

I do still follow a modified low carb approach though. Even in maintenance
or weight loss mode - my way of eating is modified low carb. Cut down the
breads, pasta, startches, sugars and junk, increase the meats and veggies.
In weight loss mode that is coupled w/ low calorie approach to eating.

On 23 Sep 2003 20:17:03 GMT, ignoramous
wrote:

I agree. I wonder if the people who go on various named diets last
less than the people who decide to simply switch to a healthier
lifestyle.

Lost half my weight on the "Ron Ritzman eat less" diet, the other half
generic low carb/keto.

The problem with "named" diets is that there's a lot of unnecessary
rules. Do Atkins and you can't have coffee, do Protein Power and you
can't have diet sodas with aspartame. On top of that a lot of them
bring in a lot of junk science excess baggage. Unless your doing plain
and simple calorie counting or the 2 pound diet, it's better to pick a
concept and modify it for your own use.

LC/keto could be explained in 5 pages or less.

--
Ron Ritzman
http://www.panix.com/~ritzlart
Smart people can figure out my email address

"ignoramous" wrote in message

I agree. I wonder if the people who go on various named diets last
less than the people who decide to simply switch to a healthier
lifestyle.

I do not remember you, beeswing, beverly, myself, monte, Crafting mom,
etc, mentioning that you were on south beach or on pritikin or atkins
or whatever. We just started eating better food, less of it, and
exercising. Whereas most posters who mention that they are on a
specific diet or program somehow or other disappear from the NG.

I suspect that it is a personality issue rather than the diets being
bad. I cannot at this point pinpoint it exactly.

I basically just lurk. I get tired of having to defend my way of eating
here.
--
Jeri
stargazer40 at hotmail dot com
don't hit reply or I won't get the email
265/189/120
Atkins since 11/5/01
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."

ignoramous wrote:

I agree. I wonder if the people who go on various named diets last
less than the people who decide to simply switch to a healthier
lifestyle.

Dunno...
I just "ate for health" and the weight fell off. Due to recovery from
various eating disorders I am adamant about not being obsessed about
how much I weigh, but my health issues will be with me forever, so my
way of eating will be with me for life.

Now, before anyone says that it's the 70 pounds that made my health
issues better, while to a point I agree, I felt better after a *week*
of changing my lifestyle, I mean, I felt on top of the world. The
rest of the weight fell off *after* that. That's why now, as long as
I am not gaining, I've not set a time frame for the rest of the weight.
It's still coming off slowly, but the main thing is my health issues
have *vanished*.

I am a firm believer that what you eat and how you eat affects *more*
than society's criteria.

Crafting Mom
http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/craftingmom2001
Modified WOL since spring '02 || Weight at start: over 250 lb
Today's weight: 180.5 lb || Goal/Maintenance: 140 lb

In article , ignoramous says...

I agree. I wonder if the people who go on various named diets last
less than the people who decide to simply switch to a healthier
lifestyle.

I do not remember you, beeswing, beverly, myself, monte, Crafting mom,
etc, mentioning that you were on south beach or on pritikin or atkins
or whatever. We just started eating better food, less of it, and
exercising.

Hear hear.

Folks IRL have asked me 'which diet I'm on', and I answer either the "The famous
(Banty's real name) eat-less diet", or the "eat-less-move-more diet".

I've heard it asserted that this isnt' a 'diet' - that it has to be a 'diet' to
be a diet (I saw a webpage recently on that in another NG).

BTW, I've been lurking for some time, have drawn some inspiration, but I pretty
much already knew the score from years ago when I needed to lose after a
pregnancy, then had slowly let myself creep up over nearly a decade. The
information that's been posted here about glycemic vs. less glycemic foods has
been especially useful to me, though.

Cheers,
Banty (6'0", medium build, female, 205/180/165 after purposely plateauing at 180
for about six months)

Ron Ritzman wrote in message . ..

Lost half my weight on the "Ron Ritzman eat less" diet,

This seems to be working for me. Eat any damn thing you want, just alot less...


The problem with "named" diets is that there's a lot of unnecessary
rules. Do Atkins and you can't have coffee, do Protein Power and you
can't have diet sodas with aspartame. On top of that a lot of them
bring in a lot of junk science excess baggage. Unless your doing plain
and simple calorie counting or the 2 pound diet, it's better to pick a
concept and modify it for your own use.

Amen, brother!

Fancy Pants

Ron Ritzman wrote:


Lost half my weight on the "Ron Ritzman eat less" diet, the other half
generic low carb/keto.

Similar to me. Mine is the "real ingredients" diet. I shop the perimiter
of the grocery store, and there's no "phase one you can eat this" or
"phase two you can gradually eat that". Mine is just a very old
fashioned diet, dating back to the times before oreo cookies were
invented ;-)

My diet is by default a "low carb" diet, and I've read the Atkins'
and get the gist of it, I just don't follow the perameters.

Crafting Mom
http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/craftingmom2001
Modified WOL since spring '02 || Weight at start: over 250 lb
Today's weight: 180.5 lb || Goal/Maintenance: 140 lb

In article , Ignoramus21432 says...

In article , Banty wrote:
In article , ignoramous says...

I agree. I wonder if the people who go on various named diets last
less than the people who decide to simply switch to a healthier
lifestyle.

I do not remember you, beeswing, beverly, myself, monte, Crafting mom,
etc, mentioning that you were on south beach or on pritikin or atkins
or whatever. We just started eating better food, less of it, and
exercising.

Hear hear.

Folks IRL have asked me 'which diet I'm on', and I answer either the "The famous
(Banty's real name) eat-less diet", or the "eat-less-move-more diet".

I've heard it asserted that this isnt' a 'diet' - that it has to be a 'diet' to
be a diet (I saw a webpage recently on that in another NG).

BTW, I've been lurking for some time, have drawn some inspiration, but I pretty
much already knew the score from years ago when I needed to lose after a
pregnancy, then had slowly let myself creep up over nearly a decade. The
information that's been posted here about glycemic vs. less glycemic foods has
been especially useful to me, though.


outstanding banty... when you are petaeuing purposely, as you said,
how do you keep yourself from regaining? Any techniques that you care
to share?



Well, perhaps I should be learning from y'all, but wouldn't plateauing purposely
be pretty much what one would be doing at the target weight, except doing it for
awhile at an in-between weight?

Basically, I was tired of the dieting (my blood sugar tends low, so dieting puts
me a bit on the edge of feeling bad - this is where the glycemic info from this
NG helped!) after about 7 months. 25 pounds is quite a lot to me. And I was
also doing Tae Kwon Do, which I was enjoying, and I felt I could progress better
on that if I could stabilize for awhile.

So I added a few foods (let myself have a glass of wine about every other night,
increased portions a bit), and watched the scale. But, mostly, if I had a tip
it would be to throw away the fat clothes and buy things that fit - and
especially don't buy any more elastic-waistband slacks, skirts, or jeans! Only
buy waistlines that let you know when you're creeping up :-)
I got a few things for the summer - my '180 lb wardrobe', and stayed in them all
spring and summer.

I'm 48 y/o and I've set my goal at the weight I was at at about 30 to 35 years
old. In younger years I have been five to ten pounds under that (155 - 160) but
then I was doing a lot of running, including hill running. That was
pre-family-responsibility. Now I just want a healthy, maintainable weight.

Banty (205/180/165)

Ignoramus21432 wrote:

outstanding banty... when you are petaeuing purposely, as you said,
how do you keep yourself from regaining? Any techniques that you care
to share?

Speaking of plateauing purposely...
I've been at 180.5 for weeks, (I generally don't call these plateaus
because they seem to be too much of a complaint, IMNSHO), but
on some level, I've actually stopped losing weight for a few weeks
on purpose, and the funny thing is, I am maintaining my weight while
feeling *as if* I am "overeating", when the truth is, I am just eating
a little more than I've been used to while losing weight.

I don't call this "lack of progress", rather I've made great strides
in my relationship with food, and re-defining overeating. Being able
to eat and enjoy real food without going overboard, and it's probably
the first time in my life that I've been able to do this for myself.

I don't measure progress by a number on the scale, really, but by my
mindset, and it's permanence. I don't see it as a "stall" or anything
like that. I see it more as having lost about 70 pounds and not
having regained it

Crafting Mom (the glass is half full)
http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/craftingmom2001
Modified WOL since spring '02 || Weight at start: over 250 lb
Today's weight: 180.5 lb || Goal/Maintenance: 140 lb

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:30:06 -0300, Crafting Mom
wrote:

Now, before anyone says that it's the 70 pounds that made my health
issues better, while to a point I agree, I felt better after a *week*
of changing my lifestyle, I mean, I felt on top of the world. The
rest of the weight fell off *after* that. That's why now, as long as
I am not gaining, I've not set a time frame for the rest of the weight.
It's still coming off slowly, but the main thing is my health issues
have *vanished*.

I also had a feeling of well being as soon as I started eating a
healthier diet. But being lighter has helped in other ways -- mostly
a feeling of being much more fit.

I also heard a line today that I liked about being thinner, in a
recorded book that I'm listening to. The main character, who set out
on a cross-country bicycle trip at 278 lbs. and was at a normal weight
when he finished, observed that he was savoring the feeling of not
taking up more space than he needed. It doesn't make sense when
looked at objectively, of course, but there's something about that
feeling that I could relate to.

Chris