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  #31  
Old July 22nd, 2006, 02:16 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Doug Lerner
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Default Struggling :(

That actually is a good point to remember. It never really is as satisfying
as you remember it was, is it?

Except for fried chicken of course.

doug



On 7/22/06 9:04 AM, in article , "Catherine
White" wrote:

Hi, Eddie, You gave into the cravings but now you know that you really did
not enjoy the food. Forgive yourself for being human and get back to doing
what you did right.


  #32  
Old July 23rd, 2006, 09:05 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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Default Struggling :(

first RL means you have to use the restroom, and your post just makes me
more firm in my number one rule, Never do anything while losing you will be
unwilling to do for life, Not eating fast food is not real for me, I am on
the road a bunch, the way I work means even when I pack a lunch my hours may
outlast my food and I plain like the crap, didn't used to think that but
there it is, taco bell is a wonderful thing, perhaps reframing could evolve
a trip to fast food once a month or every 2 weeks, like your yummy sounding
breakfast on the weekend... I mean if you are getting back on program and
you didn't give up and you learn something, and you try a new strategy then
how can it NOT be positive, hang in there, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Hi All,

Getting back from the cruise - being stressed over money and work -

heading
to Ottawa for the weekend - dealing with summer barbecues - the list goes

on
and on............hohum!!!! sigh

Well......I've dropped my anchor and I'm sittin' in my row boat in the
middle of the lake (ocean perhaps?) right now ........

Man it's really stormy and rainy back where I came from - I definitely

don't
want to ever go back there! NEVER!
But the truth of the matter is that I had a lapse this

weekend............a
big one

Before WW, I used to be a major McDonald's fanatic - don't ask me why, but

I
just was, Harvey's, Wendy's Burger King! I was a connoiseur of them

all!!!
hehee

Well since starting WW back in June 2005, I've only given into my cravings
once! It was for a quarter pounder and fries only a few months into WW, I
counted the points and really didn't even enjoy it much.......but now some
10 months after (maybe it's been longer?) I gave in this weekend and I ate
the whole shabang!!!

I'm very embarrassed to report that I gave in and ordered a Big Mac, Fries
and a diet coke...........and I totally scarfed the Big Mac, literally in

a
matter of seconds!!!!!! I tell ya, I was just like a hungry dog getting

meat
for the first time!!!...........it was really, really sad

...........That
was on Saturday night around 11:00pm!!!........ and if you can believe

this,
it was also after a nice baked potatoe and 5oz fillet mignon for supper
..........

I thought to myself - well good - NOW it's out of my system............but
noooooooooOOO!!!!

On Sunday night, the drive home was pathetic, bumper to bumper and I had

to
make an emergency rest stop..........wouldn't you know it, but the only
place around was a damn McDonald's - and my situation was VERrrrrrrrrrrry
urgent! LOL!

On the way out, I thought to myself, ah, what the heck - I haven't had a
chocolate shake in over a year - so boommmmmmmm! I did it again!!!! -
Instead of walking out the door, I decided to order a chocolate shake for
the road! You'd think I would at least order a small, but NOOOOOOoooo, I

had
to order a large one!.........I'm telling ya, it didn't stand a chance! I
hoofed it down before I even made it to the car in the parking
lot......... sigh

Can you tell I didn't have a very successful weekend? Can you tell I'm a
bit bummed out?

Oh well......I got back to normal yesterday and today but unfortunately,

but
I'm sorry to report I've over eaten my points a bit on both days.

Friday's WI isn't looking good at all at this point in time, but I know I
need to go to my meeting.
I know fully in my heart that I'm not just going to WW to pay to step on

the
scale!!!!!

I'm going to WW to take part in the meeting and to learn how to deal with
situations like this and others.

Trust me when I say that I am trying desperately to reframe this entire
situation into a positive manner, but right now I can't - the bottom line
is, I fell off the horse big time and now I need to get back OP and stick

to
it.

Just writing this post is helping me greatly - thanks for

listening.........

Eddie
Weight June05-359lbs
Current Weight-282.2lbs
Loss to date=76.8lbs
Goal Weight-180lbs




  #33  
Old July 23rd, 2006, 09:08 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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Default Struggling :(

good for you, and reread your post, see if any of the stressors are
different or bigger or a different combination than in the past, or were you
just jonesin'fur dat grease??? Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
not really any triggers.......at least I don't think so???

................I've been stressed before and haven't turned to eating

junk
for comfort.

I think what happened here is that I've kinda let myself slip into

"vacation
mode" and I have justified somehow in my own mind that a little splurge

for
the last 2 weeks is not going to push me back to where I started?

Perhaps,deep down inside, I'm justifying my actions by telling myself that

I
deserve this little splurge because I've been so good for over a year now?
I just don't know for sure, but I can honestly say that I have no

intentions
of continuing down this destructive path............NO WAY!........

I'm back OP and I intend to stay that way now.........my little lapse is
over.......Thanks very much for your comments. I sincerely appreciate

them.

Eddie
Weight June05-359lbs
Current Weight-282.2lbs
Loss to date=76.8lbs
Goal Weight-180lbs

"Stormstruck" wrote in message
...
You recognised what you did. Thats a big step.

You counted the points and took accountability for it, another big step.

Perhaps you need to look at your triggers and see WHY you did that.

Well done on getting back OP, thats the main thing!


"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

Getting back from the cruise - being stressed over money and work -
heading
to Ottawa for the weekend - dealing with summer barbecues - the list

goes
on
and on............hohum!!!! sigh

Well......I've dropped my anchor and I'm sittin' in my row boat in the
middle of the lake (ocean perhaps?) right now ........

Man it's really stormy and rainy back where I came from - I definitely
don't
want to ever go back there! NEVER!
But the truth of the matter is that I had a lapse this
weekend............a
big one

Before WW, I used to be a major McDonald's fanatic - don't ask me why,

but
I
just was, Harvey's, Wendy's Burger King! I was a connoiseur of them
all!!!
hehee

Well since starting WW back in June 2005, I've only given into my

cravings
once! It was for a quarter pounder and fries only a few months into WW,

I
counted the points and really didn't even enjoy it much.......but now

some
10 months after (maybe it's been longer?) I gave in this weekend and I

ate
the whole shabang!!!

I'm very embarrassed to report that I gave in and ordered a Big Mac,

Fries
and a diet coke...........and I totally scarfed the Big Mac, literally

in
a
matter of seconds!!!!!! I tell ya, I was just like a hungry dog getting
meat
for the first time!!!...........it was really, really sad
...........That
was on Saturday night around 11:00pm!!!........ and if you can believe
this,
it was also after a nice baked potatoe and 5oz fillet mignon for supper
..........

I thought to myself - well good - NOW it's out of my

system............but
noooooooooOOO!!!!

On Sunday night, the drive home was pathetic, bumper to bumper and I had
to
make an emergency rest stop..........wouldn't you know it, but the only
place around was a damn McDonald's - and my situation was

VERrrrrrrrrrrry
urgent! LOL!

On the way out, I thought to myself, ah, what the heck - I haven't had a
chocolate shake in over a year - so boommmmmmmm! I did it again!!!! -
Instead of walking out the door, I decided to order a chocolate shake

for
the road! You'd think I would at least order a small, but NOOOOOOoooo, I
had
to order a large one!.........I'm telling ya, it didn't stand a chance!

I
hoofed it down before I even made it to the car in the parking
lot......... sigh

Can you tell I didn't have a very successful weekend? Can you tell I'm

a
bit bummed out?

Oh well......I got back to normal yesterday and today but unfortunately,
but
I'm sorry to report I've over eaten my points a bit on both days.

Friday's WI isn't looking good at all at this point in time, but I know

I
need to go to my meeting.
I know fully in my heart that I'm not just going to WW to pay to step on
the
scale!!!!!

I'm going to WW to take part in the meeting and to learn how to deal

with
situations like this and others.

Trust me when I say that I am trying desperately to reframe this entire
situation into a positive manner, but right now I can't - the bottom

line
is, I fell off the horse big time and now I need to get back OP and

stick
to
it.

Just writing this post is helping me greatly - thanks for
listening.........

Eddie
Weight June05-359lbs
Current Weight-282.2lbs
Loss to date=76.8lbs
Goal Weight-180lbs







  #34  
Old July 23rd, 2006, 09:10 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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you can switch every week if you want, Lee
Doug Lerner wrote in message
...



On 7/20/06 10:11 AM, in article ,
"Eddie-Type2" wrote:

Hey Doug.......Core sounds like a really good idea and yes the points

are
bugging me a bit.....you may be right - I may need a change.........but

at
the same time, I'm glad I posted - I think it's helped me more than I

think
to get back on program.....


Absolutely. And remember if you do try Core - you are STILL on program! I
believe the ability to switch back and forth between Core and Flex Points

is
a standard part of the program.

doug



  #35  
Old July 23rd, 2006, 09:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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Default Struggling :(

I think this is a ymmv deal, sometimes if I start getting overwhelmed I
struggle as best as I can until the last day of my week, eat what I want and
think about what I will do the next week, so I have "permission" to eat but
my brain is thinking about WW so my choices while more lax are far better
than they used to be... Lee
Doug Lerner wrote in message
...



On 7/19/06 4:54 PM, in article
, "Kate Dicey"
wrote:

You should allow yourself a weekend off now and again


I still come down on the side of NEVER taking a day off no matter what the
reason. To me it is like telling an alcoholic to allow him or herself a
weekend off now and again. I think the same kind of mental issues apply.

doug



  #36  
Old July 23rd, 2006, 09:20 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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you make the perfect point, you know for yourself that going off plan is not
an option due to your relationship with food... Will on the other hand, has
agreed with herself to take a meal off now and then, I think Kate has
commented that she takes a day or weekend off now and then, I know Kate even
writes something in her journal to indicate this, the commonality here is
that all 3 of you have determined in advance what is acceptable behavior and
abide by it, that is the "TRUE on program for me, Lee
Doug Lerner wrote in message
...
I think the difference between what you and I are saying *might* be a

matter
of our definitions, to a certain point anyway...

My own plan (and WW for that matter) has "built in flexibility". So it is
very easy to have a very large, extravagant meal from time to time. You

can
blow all your free points in one evening if you want to, right?

What I am saying is that it is unwise to go beyond that. And maybe we do
disagree here.

I think your lifetime plan needs the flexibility to splurge built-in.

Weight
Watchers has free points. I have my bonus points. I strongly believe,
however, it is dangerous to gorge yourself without limit beyond your plan.

I
think you should always remain on your plan - NO MATTER WHAT.

At least I know that is true for myself. I know I can't "temporarily go

off
plan" and then easily get on the wagon again. There would be too much of a
temptation to extend it "for just one more day". And we all know what that
leads too.

Yes, we have to be flexible and have a program we can live with forever.

But
we also have to accept reality and recognize what food means to people

(like
me) who had become morbidly obese due to our food additions.

doug



On 7/19/06 11:34 PM, in article
, "Willow Herself"
wrote:

I disagree Doug, I would not take a whole weekend off, but I do take a

meal
off every now and then. It has never tripped me up plan wise, on the
contrary it makes me feel like I'm doing the right thing.

To me this is not a diet,but a lifestyle, that implies flexibility,
enjoyment and occasionnal treats. Over all that, taking a meal off and
getting right back on plan has taught me that stepping aside isn't the

end
of thing since I am fully able to get right back to my plan the moment I
decide to.

Will~
"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...



On 7/19/06 4:54 PM, in article
, "Kate Dicey"
wrote:

You should allow yourself a weekend off now and again

I still come down on the side of NEVER taking a day off no matter what

the
reason. To me it is like telling an alcoholic to allow him or herself a
weekend off now and again. I think the same kind of mental issues

apply.

doug






  #37  
Old July 23rd, 2006, 09:25 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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the fact that you are honestly examining this is such a good NSV, also you
have little kids, their lives depend on your success, it is not unreasonable
that if they see you struggle they won't have to "be perfect" or "live up"
not that you need to discuss your health issues with them but if they see
you improving your health that will send such good messages, Lee
Eddie-Type2 wrote in message
...
Hi Kate............thanks for chiming in on this one.

Ahhhhhhh........bread
and cheese (perhaps my next relapse? hehehe)!!!
Believe it or not, I actually tried this Ottawa trip and a "weekend off"

and
that's kind of why I gave in to my cravings. But in all honesty, I really
feel bad now that I did it. It's not so much a guilt feeling but rather a
more "****ed off at myself" type of feeling because I've now set myself

back
a few weeks from where I was.

I'm kind of on the fence with this one. One side of me says, "try to fit

in
as many things as possible without changing too drastically". But then

the
other side of me says, "don't eat it, your addicted! you need to break the
addiction, just like quitting smoking".....I'm really torn on this issue,
but I also understand where both you and Doug are coming from on this.

I honestly just wish that I was addicted to food!!........I love to eat

and
it seems that most stuff that packs on the weight quickly, is bad for
you!!!........but some will say, "everything in moderation is OK"......my
biggest problem is that I only need to look at a Big Mac and I put on 5
lbs!LOL!

Oh well...........I will get through this in time........I may have lost a
couple of battles in a row, but I still plan on winning the
war............at all costs! I have to!!!.............My life depends on
it......! and keeping that foremost in my mind will help me achieve my

goal,
no matter how many setbacks I may experience.

Eddie
Weight June05-359lbs
Current Weight-282.2lbs
Loss to date=76.8lbs
Goal Weight-180lbs

"Kate Dicey" wrote in message
...

Eddie, we all have these crises. Try not to beat yourself up over it.
Tie a knot and move on: the past is dead and gone, and what you do
tomorrow is more important in this journey.

My diet-busters are bread and cheese. I find both very hard to leave on
the plate. Most of the time I manage to pass by on the other side, but
occasionally I do my good Samaritan act and help them on their way!

You should allow yourself a weekend off now and again. I let myself do
the cheese and bread thing at the weekend, and didn't count points at
all. My portions were moderate rather than huge, and what I had was
enough to satisfy but now so much that my innards suffered. After such
a weekend you may have a stall or an upward blip for a week, but don't
let that depress you. It's part of the course, and part of learning
what you can and cannot get away with.

Oh, and try re-naming the things you like to scarf down like a one-man
locust plague: Bugger King and MacDeadthings work for me!

Maybe you could help your cravings by making your own burgers with very
lean steak mince or turkey mince, and home made baps? Making them would
use up a few of the extra points they contained: the longer you knead
bread, the better the texture.
--
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  #38  
Old July 24th, 2006, 06:30 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Eddie-Type2 (-) wrote:
not really any triggers.......at least I don't think so???

................I've been stressed before and haven't turned to eating junk
for comfort.

I think what happened here is that I've kinda let myself slip into "vacation
mode" and I have justified somehow in my own mind that a little splurge for
the last 2 weeks is not going to push me back to where I started?

Perhaps,deep down inside, I'm justifying my actions by telling myself that I
deserve this little splurge because I've been so good for over a year now?
I just don't know for sure, but I can honestly say that I have no intentions
of continuing down this destructive path............NO WAY!........

I'm back OP and I intend to stay that way now.........my little lapse is
over.......Thanks very much for your comments. I sincerely appreciate them.

Eddie
Weight June05-359lbs
Current Weight-282.2lbs
Loss to date=76.8lbs
Goal Weight-180lbs


Just remind yourself each day is a new day - and jumping back on
Program is the first step in the right direction! Also, 76.8 lbs lost
is incredible!!! Remember where you came from, too.

-L.

  #39  
Old July 24th, 2006, 11:35 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Eddie-Type2
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Default Struggling :(

Thanks -L,,,,,yes, I will never lose sight of where I came from and I
definitely WON'T ever go back there!

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-291.8lbs
Loss to date=67.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"-L." wrote in message
ups.com...

Eddie-Type2 (-) wrote:
not really any triggers.......at least I don't think so???

................I've been stressed before and haven't turned to eating

junk
for comfort.

I think what happened here is that I've kinda let myself slip into

"vacation
mode" and I have justified somehow in my own mind that a little splurge

for
the last 2 weeks is not going to push me back to where I started?

Perhaps,deep down inside, I'm justifying my actions by telling myself that

I
deserve this little splurge because I've been so good for over a year now?
I just don't know for sure, but I can honestly say that I have no

intentions
of continuing down this destructive path............NO WAY!........

I'm back OP and I intend to stay that way now.........my little lapse is
over.......Thanks very much for your comments. I sincerely appreciate

them.

Eddie
Weight June05-359lbs
Current Weight-282.2lbs
Loss to date=76.8lbs
Goal Weight-180lbs


Just remind yourself each day is a new day - and jumping back on
Program is the first step in the right direction! Also, 76.8 lbs lost
is incredible!!! Remember where you came from, too.

-L.


 




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