Up a lb?

when you work your muscles they hold water to repair themselves, you said
walking was extra, and I was originally on WW when you ate fish 5 times a
week, I lost great but prefer the points, I do lose slower but I am NOT
hungry and I will keep it off this time, Lee
Lá~ká~ Wáná wrote in message
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"Stormmee" wrote in message
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walking that much extra can make your muscles retain water, Lee

I never heard of that before. What would make them retain water? Most
days
I walk 1 1/2 to 2 miles. I wish I could find the original WW diet plan
from
the 1960s. I remember how everyone I knew was losing over a pound a week
and none that I recall were exercising like I need to do to lose on WW.
And
no, I do not go over my 26 pts a day. I have no cravings for certain
foods.
There were no points back then and some foods were unlimited and yet they
lost weight without having to walk as I am doing. Any suggestions were I
may find the original plan? Has anyone here tried the original plan? I
would love to give it a try.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
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If you work the muscles a lot, sometimes they retain water in the.. huh...
recuperation stage? not sure of the english word for it.

When you work out, the muscle kinda break up, and then in the recuperation
stage (if that's the right expression) they "repair" themselves...

I've found that when I lift weights more than usual, or change my routine
radically I gain a temporary "water gain".

I asked a friend who's a doctor and works with athletes a lot and he
explained ( man that was long and boring) that it's because you're muscles
keep water when they traumatized.. I won't go through the whole explaination
cause 1 I don't remember and 2 I'm not really interested, but that's what it
boils down to.

will~


"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
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"Stormmee" wrote in message
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walking that much extra can make your muscles retain water, Lee

I never heard of that before. What would make them retain water? Most
days I walk 1 1/2 to 2 miles. I wish I could find the original WW diet
plan from the 1960s. I remember how everyone I knew was losing over a
pound a week and none that I recall were exercising like I need to do to
lose on WW. And no, I do not go over my 26 pts a day. I have no cravings
for certain foods. There were no points back then and some foods were
unlimited and yet they lost weight without having to walk as I am doing.
Any suggestions were I may find the original plan? Has anyone here tried
the original plan? I would love to give it a try.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Stormmee" wrote in message
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when you work your muscles they hold water to repair themselves, you said
walking was extra, and I was originally on WW when you ate fish 5 times a
week, I lost great but prefer the points, I do lose slower but I am NOT
hungry and I will keep it off this time, Lee

Just that one day that I walked over 4 miles. I seldom walk that far. I've
been walking 1 1/2 to 2 miles a day for almost a month now. I myself was
not on WW back then as I weighed no more than 110 lbs in those days. I just
recall several of the girls on my block and at work who went on WW and HOLY
COW.... did they lose weight! I don't remember them complaining about being
hungry.

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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"Willow Herself" wrote in
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If you work the muscles a lot, sometimes they retain water in the.. huh...
recuperation stage? not sure of the english word for it.

When you work out, the muscle kinda break up, and then in the recuperation
stage (if that's the right expression) they "repair" themselves...

I see. Thanks.

I've found that when I lift weights more than usual, or change my routine
radically I gain a temporary "water gain".

I asked a friend who's a doctor and works with athletes a lot and he
explained ( man that was long and boring) that it's because you're muscles
keep water when they traumatized.. I won't go through the whole
explaination cause 1 I don't remember and 2 I'm not really interested, but
that's what it boils down to.

Thanks.........

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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the difference in that one day of walking would make you retain water, drink
extra water to help your body flush itself out and you will be fine, I was
very active when I was on WW and starved all the time, Lee
Lá~ká~ Wáná wrote in message
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"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
when you work your muscles they hold water to repair themselves, you
said
walking was extra, and I was originally on WW when you ate fish 5 times
a
week, I lost great but prefer the points, I do lose slower but I am NOT
hungry and I will keep it off this time, Lee

Just that one day that I walked over 4 miles. I seldom walk that far.
I've
been walking 1 1/2 to 2 miles a day for almost a month now. I myself was
not on WW back then as I weighed no more than 110 lbs in those days. I
just
recall several of the girls on my block and at work who went on WW and
HOLY
COW.... did they lose weight! I don't remember them complaining about
being
hungry.

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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I am late on this one, but during the time I was losing I was up a pound several times. The first year back on program from 2/16/02 - 2/28/03 I journaled every day, and never had an off-program day. I was into a Doug kind of thing. I went up six times. Several other times I lost 0. The next year I went up 5 more times before getting to goal in August of 2003. Up happens. The downs exceed the ups. This gives you practice for maintenance when you are not going to stay one weight every day of your life. If you learn to put your head down and keep plugging away at your lifestyle change when you gain, you may get to goal and stay there. I am up right now because of a ton of life situations. I will be down again by time to weigh in for August.

--
Les
365 (1981)
247 (restart WW in 2002)
167 (this morning)
164 (goal)

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message .com...
I was up one pound this morning. How can this happen when I didn't go over
my points since I started? I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition to
my regular daily exercise. I'm post menopausal so it's not hormonal.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 163 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
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"lesanne" wrote in message
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I am late on this one, but during the time I was losing I was up a pound
several times. The first year back on program from 2/16/02 - 2/28/03 I
journaled every day, and never had an off-program day. I was into a Doug
kind of thing. I went up six times. Several other times I lost 0. The next
year I went up 5 more times before getting to goal in August of 2003. Up
happens. The downs exceed the ups. This gives you practice for maintenance
when you are not going to stay one weight every day of your life. If you
learn to put your head down and keep plugging away at your lifestyle change
when you gain, you may get to goal and stay there. I am up right now because
of a ton of life situations. I will be down again by time to weigh in for
August.


Thanks. It looks like I am once again plateaued after only a few weeks back
on the program. These plateaus happen sooner and sooner now when I restart
the program. They can last for months. The frustrating thing is if I eat
more (a few points a day) I immediately start to gain the weight back. If I
cut back on points to lose the weight I get shaky and weak and am told it's
starvation mode. I can't win for losing......... now if only the loss was
weight. ( It seems the 26 points is too much food for me. It's like a
maintenance amount, not a lose weight amount.

I'll keep on going though and try not to get discouraged as I have in the
past. I walked 2.3 miles today and am on program.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
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it seems to me that this realistic viewpoint on weight/lifestyle is what helps one to maintain after losing, and it is what keeps me on program, not every day has been on program for me, but every day has been a conscious decision for me, the biggest change that has allowed me to stick with it for so long is that I no longer eat without thinking, when I do decide to eat outside the program I decide in advance and I also know why I made that decision and how long it will last. Wed. is a perfect example. I went to a class, I thought they would have pizza at the class, I had decided to use my WPA and eat 3 slices,... at the end of the class they had deli sandwiches instead of pizza, nope didn't eat that, was hyped for pizza, and hungry but refused the deli stuff because I didn't know what mystery meat was on them and the bread didn't smell fresh, DH had a slice and said I missed nothing, so we went to dinner with friends at Ryan's and I stayed on plan, Ryan's has lots of food for core. Lee
lesanne wrote in message ...
I am late on this one, but during the time I was losing I was up a pound several times. The first year back on program from 2/16/02 - 2/28/03 I journaled every day, and never had an off-program day. I was into a Doug kind of thing. I went up six times. Several other times I lost 0. The next year I went up 5 more times before getting to goal in August of 2003. Up happens. The downs exceed the ups. This gives you practice for maintenance when you are not going to stay one weight every day of your life. If you learn to put your head down and keep plugging away at your lifestyle change when you gain, you may get to goal and stay there. I am up right now because of a ton of life situations. I will be down again by time to weigh in for August.

--
Les
365 (1981)
247 (restart WW in 2002)
167 (this morning)
164 (goal)

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message .com...
I was up one pound this morning. How can this happen when I didn't go over
my points since I started? I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition to
my regular daily exercise. I'm post menopausal so it's not hormonal.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 163 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
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Your signature shows you having a current weight of 162lbs. If that is the
case, then 26 points is too much.
According to the WW materials, at 162 you should be on 22 points a day, with
the 35 weekly point allowance and then the exercise points you add. So
maybe you are eating too much in order to lose. You are eating to maintain
instead.

Debbie

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
. com...

"lesanne" wrote in message
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I am late on this one, but during the time I was losing I was up a pound
several times. The first year back on program from 2/16/02 - 2/28/03 I
journaled every day, and never had an off-program day. I was into a Doug
kind of thing. I went up six times. Several other times I lost 0. The next
year I went up 5 more times before getting to goal in August of 2003. Up
happens. The downs exceed the ups. This gives you practice for maintenance
when you are not going to stay one weight every day of your life. If you
learn to put your head down and keep plugging away at your lifestyle
change when you gain, you may get to goal and stay there. I am up right
now because of a ton of life situations. I will be down again by time to
weigh in for August.


Thanks. It looks like I am once again plateaued after only a few weeks
back on the program. These plateaus happen sooner and sooner now when I
restart the program. They can last for months. The frustrating thing is
if I eat more (a few points a day) I immediately start to gain the weight
back. If I cut back on points to lose the weight I get shaky and weak and
am told it's starvation mode. I can't win for losing......... now if
only the loss was weight. ( It seems the 26 points is too much food
for me. It's like a maintenance amount, not a lose weight amount.

I'll keep on going though and try not to get discouraged as I have in the
past. I walked 2.3 miles today and am on program.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
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"Deb in Northern California" wrote in message
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Your signature shows you having a current weight of 162lbs. If that is
the case, then 26 points is too much.
According to the WW materials, at 162 you should be on 22 points a day,
with the 35 weekly point allowance and then the exercise points you add.
So maybe you are eating too much in order to lose. You are eating to
maintain instead.

My Success book says 20 to 27 pts a day. Since I do exercise the leader
told me (when I was making meetings) to stay on the high side since I wasn't
losing much weight - less than a lb a month. I think you're right. She
should have told me to drop pts, not stay at the top. I was getting
conflicting advice there.

These points are annoying. I wish I could get a rough calorie number to eat
per day. That would make it so much easier for me. Using the URL from
another poster, I think, if I understood what he said - to reach 130 lbs it
would be something like 1200c a day. How many points would THAT be?

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 161 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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