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Old October 21st, 2003, 01:13 AM
Amberle3
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Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over
400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and
then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without
medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery.

I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery,
but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the
trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health
complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's
3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that.

Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg.

So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10
years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with
a stomach that small?

I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier
person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged
shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a
rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the
long-term effects of the surgery.

Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies
have been done about the surgery?

Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to
have any surgery)

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Old October 21st, 2003, 01:42 AM
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Default Oprah today (Monday October 20)

I did not see the show, but I have lost that much weight, if you count the
total. And I wonder why, since the people cannot eat After the surgery, at
least not the way they used to, that they don't go ahead and eat less? I
know this is oversimplification, but dang.

"Amberle3" wrote in message
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Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over
400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and
then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without
medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery.

I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery,
but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the
trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health
complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's
3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that.

Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg.

So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10
years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with
a stomach that small?

I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier
person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged
shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a
rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the
long-term effects of the surgery.

Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies
have been done about the surgery?

Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to
have any surgery)

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http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm

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Old October 21st, 2003, 01:52 AM
Laura
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Default Oprah today (Monday October 20)

I think the big difference between your weight loss and hers is the time it
took to lose it. You did it gradually while changing your eating habits as
well as your attitude towards food. The women on the TV show had no choice
but to eat less or get sick because her stomach was so small. She had no
time to adjust her eating habits. The surgery forced her to eat less but not
necessarily correctly to keep the weight off. I agree with Amberle3 that a
stomach that small can not support enough nutrients to be healthy in the
long run. I think our way is so much better.

"Lesanne" wrote in message
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I did not see the show, but I have lost that much weight, if you count the
total. And I wonder why, since the people cannot eat After the surgery,

at
least not the way they used to, that they don't go ahead and eat less? I
know this is oversimplification, but dang.

"Amberle3" wrote in message
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Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over
400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and
then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without
medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery.

I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery,
but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the
trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health
complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's
3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that.

Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg.

So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10
years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with
a stomach that small?

I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier
person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged
shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a
rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the
long-term effects of the surgery.

Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies
have been done about the surgery?

Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to
have any surgery)

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Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm

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http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm





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Old October 21st, 2003, 02:33 AM
Erin Marsh
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Default Oprah today (Monday October 20)

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:13:53 GMT, Amberle3
wrote:

Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over
400 pounds.


This has nothing to do with your question, but thank you for reminding
me. There is a doco on telly tonight that I want to watch, about 2 of
NZ's fattest women. They both weigh close to 300 kilos, about 660
pounds. They're both working to get their weight down so it could be
interesting to see how they're doing it, especially given that they
can barely walk. They've got a long journey ahead of them.
--
Erin in NZ
125/88.5/75 kgs
275.3/194.9/165 lbs

NYNY goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos)

"It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves"
Sir Edmund Hilary
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Old October 21st, 2003, 02:58 AM
Deb in Northern California
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Default Oprah today (Monday October 20)

My former neighbor has had this surgery, she had it in February and has been
in and out of the hospital numerous times. My daughter is friends with her
daughter and she has seen how Tami has shrunk, but all the restrictions as
to how much and what she can eat. She has had to have a couple more
surgeries for various reasons related to the gastric bypass.

There was a lady that used to post here a couple of years ago (Carole) that
had also had gastric bypass surgery and she had numerous problems and then I
believe she had the procedure reversed, but still ended up having problems
because of the surgery. She ended up going on the WW program and started to
lose in a healthy way, but she still experienced many health problems, as a
result of this gastric bypass surgery.

I can not believe that doctors recommend this to people, it is too drastic
and it mainly just forces you to eat smaller amounts but does not teach you
good eating habits. You are basically forced into portion control, but who
is to say you can not just eat 16 small meals a day and heavy fats, etc and
still not lose the way you should. I also don't believe that you would be
able to drink the recommended water with a stomach that is that small.

I only see this as a solution for a person that has severe over eating
problems. Such as sitting down to eat a large pizza and a couple of
pitchers of beers in a single sitting. That is way too much food and if you
can not control that kind of intake then you might have to take this drastic
step, but for myself. That is not my problem and it is also not what caused
me to gain weight. My weight was gained from poor food choices, not the
amount of food I eat.

Debbie

"Amberle3" wrote in message
...
Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over
400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and
then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without
medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery.

I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery,
but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the
trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health
complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's
3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that.

Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg.

So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10
years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with
a stomach that small?

I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier
person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged
shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a
rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the
long-term effects of the surgery.

Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies
have been done about the surgery?

Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to
have any surgery)

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249/225/220-minigoal/150?
Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03

Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm

New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm




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Old October 21st, 2003, 03:07 AM
Carol in NC
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Default Oprah today (Monday October 20)

Years ago, I knew a woman who had a stomach stapling operation. (Not the
same as the current operation, but similar in that it leaves one with only
the option of eating a very small amount of food at one time. ) She lost
about 150 pounds very quickly. Not much more than a year later, she had
gained it all back. (incredible, I know)

I talked to her about this fact and she said that she was able to trick her
stomach. She no longer could eat a lot at one time, so she just ate all day
long...very small amounts, and ate the wrong kinds of things.

Suffice to say, the operation taught her nothing about retraining her food
patterns, only shifted them slightly sideways.

So very sad...huh? Imagine going through that operation and ending up just
as fat a couple of years later.

Carol

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"Amberle3" wrote in message
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Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over
400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and
then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without
medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery.

I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery,
but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the
trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health
complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's
3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that.

Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg.

So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10
years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with
a stomach that small?

I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier
person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged
shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a
rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the
long-term effects of the surgery.

Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies
have been done about the surgery?

Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to
have any surgery)

--
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249/225/220-minigoal/150?
Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03

Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm

New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm




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Old October 21st, 2003, 06:06 AM
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Default Oprah today (Monday October 20)

I guess this is just one of those personal decisions we all have to make in our
lives. I have heard horror stories, but also have heard success stories. I have
two personal friends who have had this surgery done ... one within the past year,
one over 15 years ago. Both were huge successes, not one complication (thank
heavens). My friend who had surgery 20 years ago has put some weight back on,
but nowhere near what he started at - he is still in a very healthy range. He is
able to eat more food than he was immediately after the surgery. I *think* the
stomach may possibly stretch again, if you condition it to accept more food. The
trick is pretty much the same that we all go through ... learn to eat smaller
portions and healthier choices. By reduction of the size of the stomach, MAYBE
this was a forced way for them to learn what they didn't seem able to on their
own? I don't know, but I won't judge those that follow different paths than I
choose.

I also heard recently that Sharon Osbourne also underwent this surgery and
successfully lost a tremendous amount of weight. I believe she said she could opt
to have surgery again to have the procedure reduced ... if she wants to. Maybe
this is also something that is considered at a later date? Why - I have no idea!

Joyce


On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:13:53 GMT, Amberle3 wrote:

Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over
400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and
then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without
medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery.

I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery,
but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the
trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health
complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's
3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that.

Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg.

So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10
years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with
a stomach that small?

I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier
person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged
shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a
rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the
long-term effects of the surgery.

Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies
have been done about the surgery?

Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to
have any surgery)


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Old October 21st, 2003, 12:30 PM
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Default Oprah today (Monday October 20)

I wonder what happens to these people mentally. Whatever mental conditions
caused the obesity would still be there after the surgery. Like in the
reverse, putting an anorexic on a feeding tube would not address the eating
disorder itself.
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"Amberle3" wrote in message
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Oprah today focused on lives of "different" people, mostly little
people. She did however do a segment on a woman that once weighed over
400 pounds. If I heard correctly, she had lost 50 pounds on her own and
then decided that she couldn't lose the rest of the weight without
medical intervention and decided to do the gastric bypass surgery.

I'm not wanting to ignite a huge debate on the merits of the surgery,
but I just couldn't help but thinking that while it certainly did the
trick for losing the weight, I can't imagine not having health
complications from it. This woman lost 200 pounds in 9 months. That's
3/4 pound per day. I just can't imagine that.

Her actual stomach organ is now sized between a golf ball and an egg.

So my questions on all of this are... what happens to her in 5 or 10
years? How on earth can a person take in enough nutrients to live with
a stomach that small?

I was very pleased for her having lost the weight. She's a much happier
person, and experienced some wonderful NSVs including an Oprah-arranged
shopping trip with a personal style coordinator and being able to ride a
rollercoaster for the first time in years. But I still worry about the
long-term effects of the surgery.

Did anyone else watch this? Does anyone know what long-term studies
have been done about the surgery?

Amberle3 (who can't stand needles or knives, definitely not included to
have any surgery)

--
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249/225/220-minigoal/150?
Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03

Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm

New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge:
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Old October 21st, 2003, 01:55 PM
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Default Oprah today (Monday October 20)

My so's ex had the surgery and did great from March to August, now she has
joined WW with me and has constant gains and losses. Also, it doesn't seem to
have cut down that much on her eating which leads me to think that maybe it
wasn't how much she eats but wrong food choices. I do know that in her house
(and unfortunately when the kids are here) everything is fried and vegetables
are nonexistent. I've tried to set a good example but 10 years of bad habits
are hard to break.
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Old October 21st, 2003, 06:47 PM
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Well, there it is..... I HAD THAT SURGERYwell, almost same thing.. I got a
"ring" tiding the entrance of the stomach but it went all wrong. and guess
what?............ after 2.5 years of many other "little"surgeries to fix
problems and problems caused by the first one....... with my life in danger
cause i went to very severe traumatismes, etc. well, after all I couldnt
stand it any longer and got a last surgery.......... which removes the whole
thing i had inside and .... During the whole process i lost "just"30 Kg,
which came inmediately back ............I started with 112.5kg. then i went
to 82/83kg and well................. Thanx God I am a "healty"person. I
just had a baby who is a perfect little angel and.......... after
pregnancy I had a weight of 114.1..... thats the initial weight for WW.
Now my weight is around 104kg and I'm happy, very happy that Im finally
doing something great for myself, with a bigger effort but much healthier
and well.. positive and hoping to see myself soon as "light"as I
want.......... By the way , I got that surgery when I was 23yo, Now I am 27
and i wouldnt recomend it to any body.......... I do know people with super
succesfull stories but mine was terrible.......... also my aunt got it and
is as fat as she was before or even more........... she eats all day all
kind of fat things, vomits several times a day and I feel so impotent and
sorry for her...............

Well, i better stop with sad stories....................

Wishing u all the very best.


Carolina

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