La Tiara Taco Shells - Important Update

I wrote to Netrition recently, requesting that they add La Tiara taco
shells to their stock. I just received this response:

"We looked into this and we will not be adding this product. It is too
difficult and lengthy to explain through email, but we researched the
matter and have found their nutritional facts to be incorrect. Basically,
their tacos have the same amount of carbs as Old El Paso or Ortega tacos
that you buy in the supermarket when you compare the same size."

So, what the hell am I gonna do with the rest of this box of 36 shells?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Carol
--
Fasting blood sugar 109
226/196/150
October Challenge Goal - 191
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Atkins since January 26, 2003
Type 2 Diabetic since May 15, 2001

"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in
message ...
I wrote to Netrition recently, requesting that they add La Tiara
taco
shells to their stock. I just received this response:

"We looked into this and we will not be adding this product. It is
too
difficult and lengthy to explain through email, but we researched
the
matter and have found their nutritional facts to be incorrect.
Basically,
their tacos have the same amount of carbs as Old El Paso or Ortega
tacos
that you buy in the supermarket when you compare the same size."

So, what the hell am I gonna do with the rest of this box of 36
shells?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Ya know, you can still eat them. Just portion it out carefully, since
they're about 5.6 carbs a piece. You could break a couple up and
use as a chip base for a taco salad (I allow myself a serving of Mama
Lupe's corn totilla rounds-- 10 chips for 18g, but they're rather
thick chips-- enough to cover the plate and a bit more). I don't
think 11 to 15g a meal is going to hurt your bs numbers that much,
unless you are sensitive to corn.

revek

Damsel in dis Dress wrote in message . ..
I wrote to Netrition recently, requesting that they add La Tiara taco
shells to their stock. I just received this response:

"We looked into this and we will not be adding this product. It is too
difficult and lengthy to explain through email, but we researched the
matter and have found their nutritional facts to be incorrect. Basically,
their tacos have the same amount of carbs as Old El Paso or Ortega tacos
that you buy in the supermarket when you compare the same size."


While I am NOT the manufacturer of these shells, I am a distributor
for La Tiara LC taco shells. My website was mentioned in an earlier
thread ( http://www.lowcarbtacoshells.com).I have spoken with the
manufacturer and I will be contacting Netrition as well after reading
this post.

The manufacturer has just recently had his products retested (to
comply with new labeling laws, etc) at independent, FDA approved
laboratories and all three labs, along with the FDA have found the
LABELING TO BE CORRECT!

I have no idea where Netrition is getting their information, but it is
faulty and I will be taking that up with them, suggesting they either
provide proof of their potentially slanderous and liable statments or
retract their comments. I would suggest the same to anyone, who
without cause or proof made allegations that this product is anything
LESS than what it claims.

We have literally hundreds of satisfied customers that attest to the
fact that not only are these shells delicious, they are, indeed low
carb. How else would they (myself included) be able to maintain their
OWL or even stay in Ketosis?

I am not a regular poster/memeber here, but this affront was brought
to my attention by a concerend low carber and I felt the need to
respond accordingly.

Rest assured, according to my OFFICIAL information, these are LOW CARB
and you may munch happily along.

Michele

On 22 Oct 2003 08:58:12 -0700, (lowcarbtacoshells)
wrote:

Damsel in dis Dress wrote in message . ..
I wrote to Netrition recently, requesting that they add La Tiara taco
shells to their stock. I just received this response:

"We looked into this and we will not be adding this product. It is too
difficult and lengthy to explain through email, but we researched the
matter and have found their nutritional facts to be incorrect. Basically,
their tacos have the same amount of carbs as Old El Paso or Ortega tacos
that you buy in the supermarket when you compare the same size."


While I am NOT the manufacturer of these shells, I am a distributor
for La Tiara LC taco shells. My website was mentioned in an earlier
thread ( http://www.lowcarbtacoshells.com).I have spoken with the
manufacturer and I will be contacting Netrition as well after reading
this post.

The manufacturer has just recently had his products retested (to
comply with new labeling laws, etc) at independent, FDA approved
laboratories and all three labs, along with the FDA have found the
LABELING TO BE CORRECT!

I have no idea where Netrition is getting their information, but it is
faulty and I will be taking that up with them, suggesting they either
provide proof of their potentially slanderous and liable statments or
retract their comments. I would suggest the same to anyone, who
without cause or proof made allegations that this product is anything
LESS than what it claims.

We have literally hundreds of satisfied customers that attest to the
fact that not only are these shells delicious, they are, indeed low
carb. How else would they (myself included) be able to maintain their
OWL or even stay in Ketosis?

I am not a regular poster/memeber here, but this affront was brought
to my attention by a concerend low carber and I felt the need to
respond accordingly.

Rest assured, according to my OFFICIAL information, these are LOW CARB
and you may munch happily along.

Thanks, Michele. This is certainly good news, because I really like the
taste of those shells. I thought it would be convenient to be able to
order them along with my other low-carb foods, but I'll just give you a
holler when I need more.

Carol

revek wrote:
Ya know, you can still eat them. Just portion it out carefully, since
they're about 5.6 carbs a piece.

Three ordinary brands in the supermarket that I looked at list 6g or 7g
per shell.

Mucho dinero for a smaller, thinner, flimsier shell of the same
ingredients, with little savings in carbs.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

"jamie" wrote in message
...
revek wrote:
Ya know, you can still eat them. Just portion it out carefully,
since
they're about 5.6 carbs a piece.

Three ordinary brands in the supermarket that I looked at list 6g
or 7g
per shell.

Old El Paso listed theirs as about 17 for three, so I guestimated.

Mucho dinero for a smaller, thinner, flimsier shell of the same
ingredients, with little savings in carbs.

Yah. That's why I just stick with my rounds (1.8g each). One serving
(10) a couple times a week won't bother me (but it might be a tad too
much for a diabetic, so I can see why Carol is peeved).

revek

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:30:56 -0500, "revek" wrote:

Yah. That's why I just stick with my rounds (1.8g each). One serving
(10) a couple times a week won't bother me (but it might be a tad too
much for a diabetic, so I can see why Carol is peeved).

I am NOT peeved, dammit! I'm miffed! Get it right! LOL!!!!!!!!

Right now, Carol is just really confused, and is withholding further
consumption of said taco shells until we actually know something, one way
or another.

Carol, back to lurking (fell into a hellacious depression a few days ago)

"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in
message ...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:30:56 -0500, "revek"
wrote:

Yah. That's why I just stick with my rounds (1.8g each). One
serving
(10) a couple times a week won't bother me (but it might be a tad
too
much for a diabetic, so I can see why Carol is peeved).

I am NOT peeved, dammit! I'm miffed! Get it right! LOL!!!!!!!!

Right now, Carol is just really confused, and is withholding further
consumption of said taco shells until we actually know something,
one way
or another.

Carol, back to lurking (fell into a hellacious depression a few days
ago)

{{{Carol}}}. Have you gotten a scare-the-blues-away lamp thingy yet?
I'm thinking a regular suntanning lamp would at least stimulate your
pineal gland (so long as you keep it far enough away from you to
prevent burning and don't use it for more than an hour or two), --
couldn't hurt to try, and they are cheaper than the other kind.

revek


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You need to look at this for what it is.. they are a business.. what it
looks like to me and anyone else who checks out the actual weight in grams
of these shells and compares carbs.. is that the La tiara shells ARE about
half the size weight-wise as most regular taco shells and if you do the
math, they are probably right in their nutritional counts. The only
difference is in what might be considered a *serving*, which we all know is
extremely ambiguous at best. If you like these taco shells, and they aren't
causing you any problems, I don't see a reason why you shouldn't continue to
eat them, providing you are not scarfing down too many at a time. Try
breaking them in half and making *chalupas* instead of tacos.. you can eat
twice as much of the good stuff, the filling, that way and still only be
eating one shell.
I have to agree that they are a bit misleading.. but it is just one more
thing to show you that we cannot always trust what we see on the surface of
nutritional labels. They are *honest* as far as they are concerned because
yes, they *are* giving info according to whatever the size of their taco
shells are.. there is no law that says it has to be a certain weight. There
is just no standard for that..

as always.... "buyer beware"

Teeb
"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in message
...
On 22 Oct 2003 08:58:12 -0700, (lowcarbtacoshells)
wrote:

Damsel in dis Dress wrote in message
. ..
I wrote to Netrition recently, requesting that they add La Tiara taco
shells to their stock. I just received this response:

"We looked into this and we will not be adding this product. It is too
difficult and lengthy to explain through email, but we researched the
matter and have found their nutritional facts to be incorrect.
Basically,
their tacos have the same amount of carbs as Old El Paso or Ortega
tacos
that you buy in the supermarket when you compare the same size."


While I am NOT the manufacturer of these shells, I am a distributor
for La Tiara LC taco shells. My website was mentioned in an earlier
thread ( http://www.lowcarbtacoshells.com).I have spoken with the
manufacturer and I will be contacting Netrition as well after reading
this post.

The manufacturer has just recently had his products retested (to
comply with new labeling laws, etc) at independent, FDA approved
laboratories and all three labs, along with the FDA have found the
LABELING TO BE CORRECT!

I have no idea where Netrition is getting their information, but it is
faulty and I will be taking that up with them, suggesting they either
provide proof of their potentially slanderous and liable statments or
retract their comments. I would suggest the same to anyone, who
without cause or proof made allegations that this product is anything
LESS than what it claims.

We have literally hundreds of satisfied customers that attest to the
fact that not only are these shells delicious, they are, indeed low
carb. How else would they (myself included) be able to maintain their
OWL or even stay in Ketosis?

I am not a regular poster/memeber here, but this affront was brought
to my attention by a concerend low carber and I felt the need to
respond accordingly.

Rest assured, according to my OFFICIAL information, these are LOW CARB
and you may munch happily along.

Thanks, Michele. This is certainly good news, because I really like the
taste of those shells. I thought it would be convenient to be able to
order them along with my other low-carb foods, but I'll just give you a
holler when I need more.

Carol

I have a little "inside" information on these
shells as well as personal experience and what
I've seen online for the last few months with
100's and 100's of low carbers who are THANKFULLY
using these shells as part of their low carb way
of life.

To begin with, these shells have been around for
30 years. They are NOT and never WERE produced as
"low carb" shells....they just happen to be LOW
CARB!

The manufacturer from Missouri has built his
business with small mom and pop business' and was
stunned when the LC community discovered these
shells. He had every lc retailer in the nation
banging on his door and asking for "exclusive
rights" to sell these. His response basically was
"You didn't do business with me for 30 years, you
won't be doing business with me now"...he even
turned DOWN WALMART! He refuses to sell to the
"big boys" because they didn't know his name
prior.

Now...he JUST had 3 independent labs analyze
these shells and ALL agree (and the FDA) the
label is CORRECT! He would have to be MAD at this
point to release the lab result to the public
(wouldn't they contain what and how to make
them!) and have every Tom, Dick and low carb
Harriet out there copy catting his recipe.

Secondly, if I were the manufacturer and Michele
released the lab results to the public, I'd
IMMEDIATELY stop selling to her and possible seek
legal action.

I've been to many AUTHENIC Mexican restaurants
and these shells are of that same high
quality...My NON low carb husband insists on
them...my whole family eats them...we buy them
by the case and enjoy them once a week. Some
times I scrunch them up for a crunchy addition to
a taco salad, I use them broken up for
dippers.......I have ALSO LOST 20 lbs in the 2
plus months I've been using them weekly!

I monitored the input from other low carbers on
100's of lc lists and boards before I got my own
shells......Of 100's and 100's who have used and
commented on them ONLY 1 person has ever reported
adverse effects. This gal also has a food
intolerance list as long as my arm...and
reported cravings. NO one else, including ME has
ever reported stalls or being knocked out of
ketosis.

The size........they are no different than shells
I've had in authenic restaurants...are they
smaller than some of the others you can buy in
the store.......OR are the other ones (like
everything else here in the US)...SUPER SIZED
because we love those super sized things? They
are light and crispy, not hard like cardboard.

There has been discussion on boards as to how the
label does not "add up" when you do the hidden
carb calculation. If the manufacturer of this
product doesn't make a health claim, which he
doesn't ( there are only 10 health claims allowed
by the FDA)....then he can add fiber (aka ash) to
his product and not list it! This does NOT effect
the carb count! GADS....no disrespect
but...somebody should be doing research to back
up those statements instead of trying to make a
point with "belief". Let alone trying to make a
science project out of this when you don't have
ALL the variables!

Now as far as the "private email" from Netrition?
HAHA...I'd say "how the heck do they know and
where is THEIR PROOF to dispute 3 labs and the
FDA??? hahaha...I'd say they were probably like
all the rest of the lc retailers and got shown
the door when they tried to get the product
themselves!! HAHA

is their statement sent liable? I would say so!!
THIS IS a public board and it was posted here!

"too much to go into in an email" as an excuse
not to give any basis for this claim the labels
are wrong? BUNK!

I buy these shells by the CASE (cheap shipping,
GREAT service) and
will continue to do so from
http://www.lowcarbtacoshells.com

IMHO use them with no worries and ENJOY the
option of having TACOS and DIPPERS!


Julie Westly
Editor of Low Carb RESOURCE Newsletter
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...CE_Newsletter/
Success Story Author for CarbSmart and CarbHealth Magazines