Low Sugar Feeling

Hey everyone, after a couple months away from the group I came back
for some advice.

Everything is going well. Dropped 23 pounds in total and just have
another 7 to go. But I digress.

I've taken up jogging and all is well, but tonight I had that "low
sugar" level feeling about half way through my run. I have been fine
for the last 4 months.

Dinner consisted of an omlet with spicy italian sausage, spinach,
onion, and cheddar cheese. Good overall low carb fuel.

Just wondering if anyone else has had that "low sugar" feeling on low
carb?

I used to get it frequently before but not anymore, until tonight.

Just looking for feedback...

Cheers,

Michael

Hi Michael! I had that low energy feeling often when first starting
out on low carbs. You probably did too? I haven't felt that way
for the past few months until now - after having had dental surgery.
Perhaps the stress to my system from the surgery is causing some
loss of energy - or as someone posted, higher carb intake may be
beneficial to healing. Since I can't really eat anything anyway, I
don't think I'll try it! I'll stick with low carb liquids and see
how I progress.

But, back to you - have you done anything that may have overexerted
your body too? More exercise than usual or any medical procedures?
(I didn't think that dental work would really affect my energy
level, but it has!).

Michelle

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Hey everyone, after a couple months away from the group I came
back
for some advice.

Everything is going well. Dropped 23 pounds in total and just have
another 7 to go. But I digress.

I've taken up jogging and all is well, but tonight I had that "low
sugar" level feeling about half way through my run. I have been
fine
for the last 4 months.

Dinner consisted of an omlet with spicy italian sausage, spinach,
onion, and cheddar cheese. Good overall low carb fuel.

Just wondering if anyone else has had that "low sugar" feeling on
low
carb?

I used to get it frequently before but not anymore, until tonight.

Just looking for feedback...

Cheers,

Michael

In article , says...
Everything is going well. Dropped 23 pounds in total and just have
another 7 to go. But I digress.

No advice on the low-sugar thing, but welcome back, and congrats on the 23 lbs
lost!

--
Saffire
205/157/125 - 5'2.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Michael,

Intense exercise can burn up all your blood sugar and put you into a
hypoglycemic state when you are low carbing. I measure my blood sugar with a
meter and have seen this happen many times.

The "two gram cure" which I wrote up on my web page
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm is the simplest way
to deal with the problem without boosting carbs unnecessarily. It works
great. When I some kind of intense exercise while my carbs are very low I
routinely take some Smarties or Sweetarts along. One Sweetart every half an
hour keeps my blood sugar from going too low.

If I don't correct, my blood sugar is liable to cycle up and down for hours
after the exercise leaving me exhausted and hungry. This used to happen to
me all the time when I exercised a decade a go before I was diagnosed with
early diabetes.

--
Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c
5.4.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Michael" wrote in message
...
Hey everyone, after a couple months away from the group I came back
for some advice.

Everything is going well. Dropped 23 pounds in total and just have
another 7 to go. But I digress.

I've taken up jogging and all is well, but tonight I had that "low
sugar" level feeling about half way through my run. I have been fine
for the last 4 months.

Dinner consisted of an omlet with spicy italian sausage, spinach,
onion, and cheddar cheese. Good overall low carb fuel.

Just wondering if anyone else has had that "low sugar" feeling on low
carb?

I used to get it frequently before but not anymore, until tonight.

Just looking for feedback...

Cheers,

Michael

Thanks Jenny. That article was very helpfull to me. From what I read I
must have had a lower than usually carb day and then my run crashed
me.

Would it be wise to try to 2gram cure before every run, just in case
of a crash?

Cheers,

Michael

On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:57:48 -0400, "Jenny"
wrote:

Michael,

Intense exercise can burn up all your blood sugar and put you into a
hypoglycemic state when you are low carbing. I measure my blood sugar with a
meter and have seen this happen many times.

The "two gram cure" which I wrote up on my web page
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm is the simplest way
to deal with the problem without boosting carbs unnecessarily. It works
great. When I some kind of intense exercise while my carbs are very low I
routinely take some Smarties or Sweetarts along. One Sweetart every half an
hour keeps my blood sugar from going too low.

If I don't correct, my blood sugar is liable to cycle up and down for hours
after the exercise leaving me exhausted and hungry. This used to happen to
me all the time when I exercised a decade a go before I was diagnosed with
early diabetes.

Michael wrote:
:: Thanks Jenny. That article was very helpfull to me. From what I read
:: I must have had a lower than usually carb day and then my run crashed
:: me.
::
:: Would it be wise to try to 2gram cure before every run, just in case
:: of a crash?

I have these after my bike rides....they are not nice...I've seen my BG drop
into the 60s, which is when I begin to not feel good. I started taking
Glucose tablets before my rides. That seemed to help on the last one...I
also took some afterwards. Exercise-induced BG drops is definitely something
you need to pay attention to on LC -- if you are a diabetic. I don't know
how much of a problem this is for nondiabetics and nonlowcarbers.

::
:: Cheers,
::
:: Michael
::
:: On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:57:48 -0400, "Jenny"
:: wrote:
::
::: Michael,
:::
::: Intense exercise can burn up all your blood sugar and put you into a
::: hypoglycemic state when you are low carbing. I measure my blood
::: sugar with a meter and have seen this happen many times.
:::
::: The "two gram cure" which I wrote up on my web page
::: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm is the
::: simplest way to deal with the problem without boosting carbs
::: unnecessarily. It works great. When I some kind of intense
::: exercise while my carbs are very low I routinely take some Smarties
::: or Sweetarts along. One Sweetart every half an hour keeps my blood
::: sugar from going too low.
:::
::: If I don't correct, my blood sugar is liable to cycle up and down
::: for hours after the exercise leaving me exhausted and hungry. This
::: used to happen to me all the time when I exercised a decade a go
::: before I was diagnosed with early diabetes.

Roger,

I was having hypo crashes years before I was diabetic. It made exercising
really unpleasant because I had no idea of what was happening, only that
instead of feeling great after a prolonged exercise session, I'd spend the
rest of the day feeling like dead meat.


--Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.4.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:
:: Thanks Jenny. That article was very helpfull to me. From what I read
:: I must have had a lower than usually carb day and then my run crashed
:: me.
::
:: Would it be wise to try to 2gram cure before every run, just in case
:: of a crash?

I have these after my bike rides....they are not nice...I've seen my BG
drop
into the 60s, which is when I begin to not feel good. I started taking
Glucose tablets before my rides. That seemed to help on the last one...I
also took some afterwards. Exercise-induced BG drops is definitely
something
you need to pay attention to on LC -- if you are a diabetic. I don't know
how much of a problem this is for nondiabetics and nonlowcarbers.

::
:: Cheers,
::
:: Michael
::
:: On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:57:48 -0400, "Jenny"
:: wrote:
::
::: Michael,
:::
::: Intense exercise can burn up all your blood sugar and put you into a
::: hypoglycemic state when you are low carbing. I measure my blood
::: sugar with a meter and have seen this happen many times.
:::
::: The "two gram cure" which I wrote up on my web page
::: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm is the
::: simplest way to deal with the problem without boosting carbs
::: unnecessarily. It works great. When I some kind of intense
::: exercise while my carbs are very low I routinely take some Smarties
::: or Sweetarts along. One Sweetart every half an hour keeps my blood
::: sugar from going too low.
:::
::: If I don't correct, my blood sugar is liable to cycle up and down
::: for hours after the exercise leaving me exhausted and hungry. This
::: used to happen to me all the time when I exercised a decade a go
::: before I was diagnosed with early diabetes.

On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:57:48 -0400, "Jenny"
wrote:

Michael,

Intense exercise can burn up all your blood sugar and put you into a
hypoglycemic state when you are low carbing. I measure my blood sugar with a
meter and have seen this happen many times.

The "two gram cure" which I wrote up on my web page
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm is the simplest way
to deal with the problem without boosting carbs unnecessarily. It works
great. When I some kind of intense exercise while my carbs are very low I
routinely take some Smarties or Sweetarts along. One Sweetart every half an
hour keeps my blood sugar from going too low.


I don't do much physical exercise but tend to burn a lot of mental
energy. Glycerine/glycerol helps keep my BG from going too low, without
giving spikes. So do sugar alcohol candies like Hershey's miniature
bars.

I was having a lot of mental dullness when my BG went down (even just
into the 90s). What helps me function at low levels is glutamine, Mental
Edge multiple vit/min/herb tablets, and maybe carnitine helps too.

I think it was Revek recommending 1500 mg of glutamine per day. (500 was
helping some but not enough.) Letting the powder dissolve in the mouth
instead of swallowing a capsule made a big difference!


Skinny

Jenny wrote:
:: Roger,
::
:: I was having hypo crashes years before I was diabetic. It made
:: exercising really unpleasant because I had no idea of what was
:: happening, only that instead of feeling great after a prolonged
:: exercise session, I'd spend the rest of the day feeling like dead
:: meat.

So do you think it means, in my case, that it has nothing or little to do
with me being Type 2? I'm a little concerned about this hypo stuff because
it seems to happen everytime I have a long ride while LCing. Obviously, I
don't want to be doing several damn carb ups a week...Ideally, I'd rather
not do any as losing weight is still important to me...It will help me ride
faster. But if I have to feel like dead meat all day, that's not gonna work
as I have stuff to do...

BTW, I'm not confident that 3.5 gm of glucose table (each as 4 gm of carb)
will work for me...

::
::
:: --Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2
:: diabetes, hba1c 5.4.
:: Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!
::
:: Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
:: strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
:: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/
::
:: Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
:: Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm
::
::
::
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: Michael wrote:
::::: Thanks Jenny. That article was very helpfull to me. From what I
::::: read
::::: I must have had a lower than usually carb day and then my run
::::: crashed me.
:::::
::::: Would it be wise to try to 2gram cure before every run, just in
::::: case of a crash?
:::
::: I have these after my bike rides....they are not nice...I've seen
::: my BG drop into the 60s, which is when I begin to not feel good. I
::: started taking Glucose tablets before my rides. That seemed to help
::: on the last one...I also took some afterwards. Exercise-induced BG
::: drops is definitely something you need to pay attention to on LC --
::: if you are a diabetic. I don't know how much of a problem this is
::: for nondiabetics and nonlowcarbers.
:::
:::::
::::: Cheers,
:::::
::::: Michael
:::::
::::: On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:57:48 -0400, "Jenny"
::::: wrote:
:::::
:::::: Michael,
::::::
:::::: Intense exercise can burn up all your blood sugar and put you
:::::: into a hypoglycemic state when you are low carbing. I measure my
:::::: blood
:::::: sugar with a meter and have seen this happen many times.
::::::
:::::: The "two gram cure" which I wrote up on my web page
:::::: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm is the
:::::: simplest way to deal with the problem without boosting carbs
:::::: unnecessarily. It works great. When I some kind of intense
:::::: exercise while my carbs are very low I routinely take some
:::::: Smarties or Sweetarts along. One Sweetart every half an hour
:::::: keeps my blood sugar from going too low.
::::::
:::::: If I don't correct, my blood sugar is liable to cycle up and down
:::::: for hours after the exercise leaving me exhausted and hungry.
:::::: This used to happen to me all the time when I exercised a decade
:::::: a go before I was diagnosed with early diabetes.

Roger,

I don't know the details on the exercise-hypo relationship. However, if your
body was acting fully diabetic, exercise could push your blood sugar up, not
down, because the liver would tend to produce a bunch of glucose from
gluconeogenesis. It is the presence of a certain control level of insulin
that prevents this from happening. Low insulin levels leads to liver dumping
(which explains the "Dawn Effect" many people with diabetes experience.)

Another mechanism that may be involved is this: if you are insulin
resistant, the liver may actually dump some glucose into your bloodstream,
your body then produces a bunch of insulin to get rid of the glucose, it
takes it a while to have an effect, then it finally kicks in all at once and
because you made so much insulin, it pushes the blood sugar too low.

However, I'm pretty sure that most athletes run into something similar with
prolonged high intensity exercise, hence the pre-game carb loading and the
high protein intake (which allows the liver to make something to dump.)


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.4.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Jenny wrote:
:: Roger,
::
:: I was having hypo crashes years before I was diabetic. It made
:: exercising really unpleasant because I had no idea of what was
:: happening, only that instead of feeling great after a prolonged
:: exercise session, I'd spend the rest of the day feeling like dead
:: meat.

So do you think it means, in my case, that it has nothing or little to do
with me being Type 2? I'm a little concerned about this hypo stuff
because
it seems to happen everytime I have a long ride while LCing. Obviously, I
don't want to be doing several damn carb ups a week...Ideally, I'd rather
not do any as losing weight is still important to me...It will help me
ride
faster. But if I have to feel like dead meat all day, that's not gonna
work
as I have stuff to do...

BTW, I'm not confident that 3.5 gm of glucose table (each as 4 gm of carb)
will work for me...

::
::
:: --Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2
:: diabetes, hba1c 5.4.
:: Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!
::
:: Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
:: strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
:: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/
::
:: Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
:: Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm
::
::
::
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: Michael wrote:
::::: Thanks Jenny. That article was very helpfull to me. From what I
::::: read
::::: I must have had a lower than usually carb day and then my run
::::: crashed me.
:::::
::::: Would it be wise to try to 2gram cure before every run, just in
::::: case of a crash?
:::
::: I have these after my bike rides....they are not nice...I've seen
::: my BG drop into the 60s, which is when I begin to not feel good. I
::: started taking Glucose tablets before my rides. That seemed to help
::: on the last one...I also took some afterwards. Exercise-induced BG
::: drops is definitely something you need to pay attention to on LC --
::: if you are a diabetic. I don't know how much of a problem this is
::: for nondiabetics and nonlowcarbers.
:::
:::::
::::: Cheers,
:::::
::::: Michael
:::::
::::: On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:57:48 -0400, "Jenny"
::::: wrote:
:::::
:::::: Michael,
::::::
:::::: Intense exercise can burn up all your blood sugar and put you
:::::: into a hypoglycemic state when you are low carbing. I measure my
:::::: blood
:::::: sugar with a meter and have seen this happen many times.
::::::
:::::: The "two gram cure" which I wrote up on my web page
:::::: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm is the
:::::: simplest way to deal with the problem without boosting carbs
:::::: unnecessarily. It works great. When I some kind of intense
:::::: exercise while my carbs are very low I routinely take some
:::::: Smarties or Sweetarts along. One Sweetart every half an hour
:::::: keeps my blood sugar from going too low.
::::::
:::::: If I don't correct, my blood sugar is liable to cycle up and down
:::::: for hours after the exercise leaving me exhausted and hungry.
:::::: This used to happen to me all the time when I exercised a decade
:::::: a go before I was diagnosed with early diabetes.