Low Carb vs. HGbA1c

Type: 2
Began Low Carb: 12/01/2003 (3 months)

10/31/2003 HGbA1c: 9.5

02/25/2004 HGbA1c: 6.2

I started Low Carb with a goal of 50 carbs or less per day. Now, I try to
do 20 carbs or less per day.

Lab says normal is: 4.9 to 5.8

Retest of Fasting BG: 88

Cubit

"Cubit" wrote:
Type: 2
Began Low Carb: 12/01/2003 (3 months)

10/31/2003 HGbA1c: 9.5

02/25/2004 HGbA1c: 6.2

I started Low Carb with a goal of 50 carbs or less per day. Now, I try
to do 20 carbs or less per day.

Lab says normal is: 4.9 to 5.8

Retest of Fasting BG: 88


If it works for you...but don't attribute it to low carb...there are many
factors that may and do affect BG. Just losing weight helps most newbies
achieve better control. There is more than one way to lose weight.

HbA1c is a measure of glycated cells. The number in you blood has gone
down...good for you !!

You cannot necessariy attribute that drop in A1c to any one cause, rather a
combination of events likely lead to the drop.

Having said that...Congratulations. Keep up the good work !!

Twenty a day is VERY difficult to maintain, make sure you have your kidneys
checked regularly !!

gman99 wrote:
:: "Cubit" wrote:
::: Type: 2
::: Began Low Carb: 12/01/2003 (3 months)
:::
::: 10/31/2003 HGbA1c: 9.5
:::
::: 02/25/2004 HGbA1c: 6.2
:::
::: I started Low Carb with a goal of 50 carbs or less per day. Now, I
::: try to do 20 carbs or less per day.
:::
::: Lab says normal is: 4.9 to 5.8
:::
::: Retest of Fasting BG: 88
:::
::
:: If it works for you...but don't attribute it to low carb...there are
:: many factors that may and do affect BG.

Nonsense....in this case, it can be attributed to LC...

Just losing weight helps
:: most newbies achieve better control. There is more than one way to
:: lose weight.

What the hell is a newbie in this case? It is true that there is more than
one way to lose weight, but what does that have to do with this?

::
:: HbA1c is a measure of glycated cells. The number in you blood has
:: gone down...good for you !!
::
:: You cannot necessariy attribute that drop in A1c to any one cause,
:: rather a combination of events likely lead to the drop.

It is very common to LCers to see A1c drop. Exercise does help, too.

::
:: Having said that...Congratulations. Keep up the good work !!
::
:: Twenty a day is VERY difficult to maintain, make sure you have your
:: kidneys checked regularly !!

Obviously, you know little if anything about LCing.

On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 10:55:12 -0500, Roger Zoul
wrote:

gman99 wrote:
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::
:: Twenty a day is VERY difficult to maintain, make sure you have your
:: kidneys checked regularly !!

Obviously, you know little if anything about LCing.



This kidney stuff simply must stop. After two yearly physicals, my
kidneys are fine (better, in fact, then when I was on low fat and had high
readings). There is no basis in fact for kidneys going bad due to low
carb. It's a myth. See the following:

http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/r....asp?catid=207

--
Bob in CT
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Hi,
On 5-Mar-2004, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
GMan's nattering snipped
:: Twenty a day is VERY difficult to maintain, make sure you have
your kidneys checked regularly !!

Obviously, you know little if anything about LCing.

It may be time for ASDLC to institute the IOM Award. G

Take care,
Carmen

This kidney stuff simply must stop. After two yearly physicals, my
kidneys are fine (better, in fact, then when I was on low fat and had
high readings). There is no basis in fact for kidneys going bad due to
low carb. It's a myth. See the following:

http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/r....asp?catid=207

Kidney disease IS prevelant in diabetics....and must be monitored !!

"Carmen" wrote:
Hi,
On 5-Mar-2004, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
GMan's nattering snipped
:: Twenty a day is VERY difficult to maintain, make sure you have
your kidneys checked regularly !!

Obviously, you know little if anything about LCing.

It may be time for ASDLC to institute the IOM Award. G

Take care,
Carmen

Going to nominate yourself ?? Maybe all you idiots should read ALL of the
information presented !! The original poster identified themself as a
diabetic who is low carbing. Low carbing typically means that they make up
the calories with a combination of FAT and PROTEIN. Diabetics are at HIGHER
risk of kidney disease...therefore, one on a low carb diet better make sure
their kidney function is good and stays good.

gman99 wrote:
:: "Carmen" wrote:
::: Hi,
::: On 5-Mar-2004, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
::: GMan's nattering snipped
:::::: Twenty a day is VERY difficult to maintain, make sure you have
:::: your kidneys checked regularly !!
::::
:::: Obviously, you know little if anything about LCing.
:::
::: It may be time for ASDLC to institute the IOM Award. G
:::
::: Take care,
::: Carmen
::
:: Going to nominate yourself ?? Maybe all you idiots should read ALL
:: of the information presented !! The original poster identified
:: themself as a diabetic who is low carbing. Low carbing typically
:: means that they make up the calories with a combination of FAT and
:: PROTEIN. Diabetics are at HIGHER risk of kidney disease...therefore,
:: one on a low carb diet better make sure their kidney function is
:: good and stays good.

Diabetics should always be concerned about kidney function on ANY diet.
Period. Gaining control of BG goes a long with to preventing future
problems.

On 5-Mar-2004, (gman99) wrote:

On 5-Mar-2004, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
GMan's nattering snipped
:: Twenty a day is VERY difficult to maintain, make sure you
have your kidneys checked regularly !!

Obviously, you know little if anything about LCing.

It may be time for ASDLC to institute the IOM Award. G

Take care,
Carmen

Going to nominate yourself ?? Maybe all you idiots should read ALL
of the information presented !! The original poster identified
themself as
a diabetic who is low carbing. Low carbing typically means that they
make up the calories with a combination of FAT and PROTEIN.
Diabetics are at
HIGHER risk of kidney disease...therefore, one on a low carb diet
better
make sure their kidney function is good and stays good.

Nominate myself? Not eligible. I, like a number of others in ASDLC,
am a lowcarbing diabetic. There's no evidence that low carbing harms
healthy kidneys.
Staying within a tightly controlled BG range is the best way to avoid
diabetic complications such as kidney disease. Some of us find low
carbing and exercise effective tools for doing so while avoiding
medication. We speak from experience.

Carmen

"Roger Zoul" wrote:
gman99 wrote:
:: "Carmen" wrote:
::: Hi,
::: On 5-Mar-2004, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
::: GMan's nattering snipped
:::::: Twenty a day is VERY difficult to maintain, make sure you have
:::: your kidneys checked regularly !!
::::
:::: Obviously, you know little if anything about LCing.
:::
::: It may be time for ASDLC to institute the IOM Award. G
:::
::: Take care,
::: Carmen
::
:: Going to nominate yourself ?? Maybe all you idiots should read ALL
:: of the information presented !! The original poster identified
:: themself as a diabetic who is low carbing. Low carbing typically
:: means that they make up the calories with a combination of FAT and
:: PROTEIN. Diabetics are at HIGHER risk of kidney disease...therefore,
:: one on a low carb diet better make sure their kidney function is
:: good and stays good.

Diabetics should always be concerned about kidney function on ANY diet.
Period. Gaining control of BG goes a long with to preventing future
problems.

Agreed !