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Old March 7th, 2008, 12:12 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
Tom[_4_]
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I'm reading the ingredients on a box of kellogg's reduced fat Cheez-it
crackers
What's interesting is trans fat 0 grams, then ". . .vegatable oil (canola,
cottonseed, palm, sunflower and/or partially hydrogenated soybean oil with
tbhq for greshness) . . ." How can they use partially hydrogenated oil then
state 0 grams trans fat?

Tom.


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Old March 7th, 2008, 12:47 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
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Tom wrote:

I'm reading the ingredients on a box of kellogg's reduced fat Cheez-it
crackers
What's interesting is trans fat 0 grams, then ". . .vegatable oil (canola,
cottonseed, palm, sunflower and/or partially hydrogenated soybean oil with
tbhq for greshness) . . ." How can they use partially hydrogenated oil then
state 0 grams trans fat?


Below a certain threshold level (I think it's a gram per serving),
they are allowed to say "no trans fats" or whatever they said.

C'mon, that much won't hurt you. Nobody ever died from
smoking one cigarette.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 02:51 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
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"Tom" wrote in message
news:PL%zj.13128$v47.8791@trnddc08...
I'm reading the ingredients on a box of kellogg's reduced fat Cheez-it
crackers
What's interesting is trans fat 0 grams, then ". . .vegatable oil (canola,
cottonseed, palm, sunflower and/or partially hydrogenated soybean oil with
tbhq for greshness) . . ." How can they use partially hydrogenated oil
then state 0 grams trans fat?

Tom.


A certain TV personality says we have the best government money can buy.

Thus, it is legal to lie.



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Old March 7th, 2008, 03:33 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
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Tom wrote:
I'm reading the ingredients on a box of kellogg's reduced fat Cheez-it
crackers
What's interesting is trans fat 0 grams, then ". . .vegatable oil (canola,
cottonseed, palm, sunflower and/or partially hydrogenated soybean oil with
tbhq for greshness) . . ." How can they use partially hydrogenated oil then
state 0 grams trans fat?

Tom.



The legal definition is that if there is less that 500 mg of trans-fats
per serving, they can state on the package that there is "0 grams of
trans-fat per serving". The law allows them to "round" to the nearest gram.

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Old March 7th, 2008, 06:12 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
Kaz Kylheku
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On Mar 6, 4:47*pm, Mark Thorson wrote:
Tom wrote:

I'm reading the ingredients on a box of kellogg's reduced fat Cheez-it
crackers
What's interesting is trans fat 0 grams, then ". . .vegatable oil (canola,
cottonseed, palm, sunflower and/or partially hydrogenated soybean oil with
tbhq for greshness) . . ." *How can they use partially hydrogenated oil then
state 0 grams trans fat?


Below a certain threshold level (I think it's a gram per serving),
they are allowed to say "no trans fats" or whatever they said.

C'mon, that much won't hurt you. *Nobody ever died from
smoking one cigarette.


Sure, and when someone died from smoking hundreds of thousands of
cigarettes, it was not any single particular one of those cigarettes
that did him in. (Certainly not the last one; he had advanced cancer
already when he was having /that/ one, so it was a freebie!)

Doh.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 07:06 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
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On Mar 7, 7:23*am, "Jeri" wrote:
Tom wrote:
I'm reading the ingredients on a box of kellogg's reduced fat Cheez-it
crackers
What's interesting is trans fat 0 grams, then ". . .vegatable oil
(canola, cottonseed, palm, sunflower and/or partially hydrogenated
soybean oil with tbhq for greshness) . . ." *How can they use
partially hydrogenated oil then state 0 grams trans fat?


Tom.


It's the miracle of rounding and small serving sizes. You really have to
watch what companies consider 'one serving'. Some are ridiculously small so
that they can round the trans fats, saturated fats, etc to zero.
--
Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."


Even non-nutritive sweetners like Splenda and Equal contain 4 calories
per pack...just under 5. At 5, they would have to call it 5 and they
don't want to do that. Nowhere on Splenda's website does it tell you
that and I had to email the Co. several times to get them to admit
there were 4 cal per package. They were very defensive about it
telling me how many fewer calories than sugar there are in their
product and that it is made from sugar. Still, when people bake with
the stuff, they do get significant calories. I'm certain a good
chemist starting with sugar could make any number of deadly poisons
too, so that made from sugar tidbit is just misleading hype. dkw
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Old March 7th, 2008, 07:22 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
Kaz Kylheku
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On Mar 7, 11:06*am, " wrote:
I'm certain a good chemist starting with sugar could make
any number of deadly poisons too, so that made from sugar
tidbit is just misleading hype.


Of course, there are terrible poisons which are made of protein or
peptides. And the ``chemists'' responsible for them are living cells:
plants, animals and bacteria.

So just by combining the amino acids, the building blocks needed by
your body, in a certain sequence, you can make something nasty like
snake venom, ricin, botulin, tetanospasmin, ...

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Old March 8th, 2008, 02:42 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
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On Mar 7, 1:06 pm, " wrote:

Even non-nutritive sweetners like Splenda and Equal contain 4 calories
per pack...just under 5. At 5, they would have to call it 5 and they
don't want to do that. Nowhere on Splenda's website does it tell you
that and I had to email the Co. several times to get them to admit
there were 4 cal per package. They were very defensive about it
telling me how many fewer calories than sugar there are in their
product and that it is made from sugar. Still, when people bake with
the stuff, they do get significant calories. I'm certain a good
chemist starting with sugar could make any number of deadly poisons
too, so that made from sugar tidbit is just misleading hype. dkw


For equivalent sweetening effects Splenda and Equal have considerably
less calories.

--
Ron

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Old March 8th, 2008, 01:54 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
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On Mar 7, 10:02 pm, DZ
wrote:
Cubit wrote:
"Tom" wrote
I'm reading the ingredients on a box of kellogg's reduced fat
Cheez-it crackers What's interesting is trans fat 0 grams, then
". . .vegatable oil (canola, cottonseed, palm, sunflower and/or
partially hydrogenated soybean oil with tbhq for greshness) . . ."
How can they use partially hydrogenated oil then state 0 grams
trans fat?


A certain TV personality says we have the best government money can
buy. Thus, it is legal to lie.


A mix of completely hydrogenated with non-hydrogenated oil would have
the intermediate consistency and the melting point, and can also be
called "partially hydrogenated oil". That would have no trans fats.


I first became aware of this when I realized that COFFEE-MATE contains
an ingredient called sodium caseinate which is a milk derivative, but
is classified as a non-dairy product. But why is the American
cuisine comprised of Coffeemate, Splenda and Cheezit crackers?
Needing to eat items of this kind is just as foolish as quibbling over
the tiny bits of "trans fat" or similar things they might contain.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 04:34 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
Ron Peterson
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On Mar 7, 12:12*am, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On Mar 6, 4:47*pm, Mark Thorson wrote:

Tom wrote:


I'm reading the ingredients on a box of kellogg's reduced fat Cheez-it
crackers
What's interesting is trans fat 0 grams, then ". . .vegatable oil (canola,
cottonseed, palm, sunflower and/or partially hydrogenated soybean oil with
tbhq for greshness) . . ." *How can they use partially hydrogenated oil then
state 0 grams trans fat?


Below a certain threshold level (I think it's a gram per serving),
they are allowed to say "no trans fats" or whatever they said.


C'mon, that much won't hurt you. *Nobody ever died from
smoking one cigarette.


Sure, and when someone died from smoking hundreds of thousands of
cigarettes, *it was not any single particular one of those cigarettes
that did him in. (Certainly not the last one; he had advanced cancer
already when he was having /that/ one, so it was a freebie!)


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/87/1/168 says that 1 g of
trans fats have the equivalent harm of 10 g of saturated fat. But
alcohol consumption can reverse the effect of saturated fat intake.

--
Ron

 




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