calories?

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
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Tell that to the many people who don't eat carbs and live long health
lives. Start with the Eskimos amd other tribes from the far north.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/conte...330/7487/326-d

Inuits have a significantly shorter life expectancy than other Canadians.

Ancient people lived even shorter lives.
http://www.wonderquest.com/LifeSpan.htm

If you're going to post bull****, back it up with actual facts.
--
the volleyballchick

Something that people overlook all the time is the genetic tendencies of different groups as well, as long as we are discussing posting BS. Just because an Eskimo lives on an Eskimo's diet does not in any way mean it is a healthy diet for some other race of people.

A lovely example is the medical chaos the guy who filmed (and wrote) supersize me went through when he changed his diet to a totally McDonalds diet. There was a guy in that film who had eaten thousands of Big Mac's and had a cholesterol reading of 140. Obviously the cruddy nutritional mix to be found in a Big Mac agreed with his particular genetic makeup. It totally freaked out the body of the man doing the experiment and his liver enzymes went nuts.

I know people who seem to thrive on low carb diets. I know a couple of folks who got really sick from low carb diets. My own genetic mix does not do well as either a vegetarian, or on low carb. I have to go the middle road. My best friend thrives as a vegetarian, is maybe the healthiest person I know, and gets really sick if she eats meat. Of any kind. Anyone who says this or that diet is good for "everyone" is dangerously misinformed.

--
Les
"Nunya B." wrote in message ...

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
. com...
Tell that to the many people who don't eat carbs and live long health
lives. Start with the Eskimos amd other tribes from the far north.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/conte...330/7487/326-d

Inuits have a significantly shorter life expectancy than other Canadians.

Ancient people lived even shorter lives.
http://www.wonderquest.com/LifeSpan.htm

If you're going to post bull****, back it up with actual facts.
--
the volleyballchick

totally agree, I don't want to eat meat, don't care for it, but have to eat it or I get ill, Lee
lesanne wrote in message ...
Something that people overlook all the time is the genetic tendencies of different groups as well, as long as we are discussing posting BS. Just because an Eskimo lives on an Eskimo's diet does not in any way mean it is a healthy diet for some other race of people.

A lovely example is the medical chaos the guy who filmed (and wrote) supersize me went through when he changed his diet to a totally McDonalds diet. There was a guy in that film who had eaten thousands of Big Mac's and had a cholesterol reading of 140. Obviously the cruddy nutritional mix to be found in a Big Mac agreed with his particular genetic makeup. It totally freaked out the body of the man doing the experiment and his liver enzymes went nuts.

I know people who seem to thrive on low carb diets. I know a couple of folks who got really sick from low carb diets. My own genetic mix does not do well as either a vegetarian, or on low carb. I have to go the middle road. My best friend thrives as a vegetarian, is maybe the healthiest person I know, and gets really sick if she eats meat. Of any kind. Anyone who says this or that diet is good for "everyone" is dangerously misinformed.

--
Les
"Nunya B." wrote in message ...

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
. com...
Tell that to the many people who don't eat carbs and live long health
lives. Start with the Eskimos amd other tribes from the far north.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/conte...330/7487/326-d

Inuits have a significantly shorter life expectancy than other Canadians.

Ancient people lived even shorter lives.
http://www.wonderquest.com/LifeSpan.htm

If you're going to post bull****, back it up with actual facts.
--
the volleyballchick

"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
...
LW,

The indigenous people of the artic part of Canada are properly referred to
as Inuit, not Eskimos.

Well, sure they are properly referred to as Inuit, that's the name they call
themselves but if they were/are eaters of raw meat then they are properly
referred to Eskimo by the other Native Americans who saw them as such.



Please follow this link and read the first paragraph.
http://collections.ic.gc.ca/arctic/inuit/people.htm

You know that you and I are in agreement on this. I have no problem with
people who want to low carb - it's the spreading of false information that I
am responding to. I am so very sick of the ignorance being posted about
"carbs" here that I simply wish to post evidence that shows what's being
said is blatantly not factual.

It would be one thing if the low carb cult (LCC) members posted helpful
stuff but to constantly preach about how bad carbs are and then
hyperventilate when someone mentions skipping butter or egg yolks (because
allegedly they're good for ya don'tcha know) it's just hypocritical. No
study has yet to come out that says skipping butter or egg yoks or other
sources of saturated fat causes any disease yet the cult members get
offended when someone decides to low fat like they're proposing taking crack
to lose weight.

One of the reasons I became more active in this group than in ASD was that I
was sick of the LCC constantly promoting the lies that "carbs" are bad. I
call it ignorance because it's not just energy that makes a healthy diet,
but nutrients. People have different chemistries but studies have shown
that it's best to get your nutrients from food rather than pills and
supplements whenever possible. I like that WW doesn't use the terms low
carb or low fat to describe their plan. It's the points baby!
--
the volleyballchick

"lesanne" wrote in message
...
Something that people overlook all the time is the genetic tendencies of
different groups as well, as long as we are discussing posting BS. Just
because an Eskimo lives on an Eskimo's diet does not in any way mean it is a
healthy diet for some other race of people.

A lovely example is the medical chaos the guy who filmed (and wrote)
supersize me went through when he changed his diet to a totally McDonalds
diet. There was a guy in that film who had eaten thousands of Big Mac's and
had a cholesterol reading of 140. Obviously the cruddy nutritional mix to be
found in a Big Mac agreed with his particular genetic makeup. It totally
freaked out the body of the man doing the experiment and his liver enzymes
went nuts.

I know people who seem to thrive on low carb diets. I know a couple of folks
who got really sick from low carb diets. My own genetic mix does not do well
as either a vegetarian, or on low carb. I have to go the middle road. My
best friend thrives as a vegetarian, is maybe the healthiest person I know,
and gets really sick if she eats meat. Of any kind. Anyone who says this or
that diet is good for "everyone" is dangerously misinformed.

--
Les
"Nunya B." wrote in message
...

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
. com...
Tell that to the many people who don't eat carbs and live long health
lives. Start with the Eskimos amd other tribes from the far north.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/conte...330/7487/326-d

Inuits have a significantly shorter life expectancy than other Canadians.

Ancient people lived even shorter lives.
http://www.wonderquest.com/LifeSpan.htm

If you're going to post bull****, back it up with actual facts.
--
the volleyballchick

LW,

The indigenous people of the artic part of Canada are properly referred to
as Inuit, not Eskimos.

Please follow this link and read the first paragraph.
http://collections.ic.gc.ca/arctic/inuit/people.htm

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-286.8lbs
Loss to date=72.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
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"nanner" wrote in message
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"Deb in Northern California" wrote in message
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I am not sure where you got your info about carbs not needed in your body
as they can be converted from protein, but you talk to any Licensed
Nutritionist and they will tell you the opposite, that carbs are one of
the most important things for your body and that you need a balance of
carbs protein and fat to be healthy.

low carbers believe that nutritionists, doctors, the media, the grain and
bread industries are all in cahoots to get americans fat and diabetic

LOL!!! That's not necessarily true. Humans can survive nicely with no
carbs in their diet at all as long as they get vitamin C from somewhere -
the Eskimos get it from the organ meats of the animals/fish they eat.

If you do not get enough carbs, it will
start taking from the protein in your body, that being your muscles and
your largest muscle in your body is your heart. So you are damaging your
heart by not eat some carbs.

in defense of low carb dieting, you DO eat carbs in teh form of vegetables
and fruit and eventually whole grains

Most people think low-carbers are NO-carbers. There seems to be a lot of
confusion as to exactly what low-carbers eat.

You need to stick with healthy complex carbs and cut
back or eliminate the simple carbs.

Even the simple carbs can be lived without. I mentioned that tribe in
Africa in another post. They live on nothing but wild greens and the blood
from their cattle. Why? Because nothing grows where they live but trees,
scrub, grasses and weeds. They also some meat when they slaughter one of
the heard.

LW
Re-Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 154.5 lbs
Goal - 130 lbs
Height: 5'6" Female. Age: 61
Don't worry about what people think,
they don't do it very often.
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"Nunya B." wrote in message
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"nanner" wrote in message
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"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
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LW,

The indigenous people of the artic part of Canada are properly referred
to
as Inuit, not Eskimos.

Well, sure they are properly referred to as Inuit, that's the name they
call themselves but if they were/are eaters of raw meat then they are
properly referred to Eskimo by the other Native Americans who saw them as
such.


Right, so unless the person using it is a Native American, the term
"Eskimo" is incorrect.
--
the volleyballchick


by that logic shouldn't we just call the Inuit "people" since that is the
definition of the word and we are not Inuit?

Yeah, I know we agree . My own body freaks if my total fat intake goes below 20%. I did a 10% fat diet once that about had me chewing the paint off the walls from craving this and that. If I eat over 30% fat I want to sleep through my workouts and I feel hung over. On the other hand, I am presently enjoying a hard boiled egg sandwich.

--
Les
"Nunya B." wrote in message ...
You know that you and I are in agreement on this. I have no problem with
people who want to low carb - it's the spreading of false information that I
am responding to. I am so very sick of the ignorance being posted about
"carbs" here that I simply wish to post evidence that shows what's being
said is blatantly not factual.

"nanner" wrote in message
...

"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
...
LW,

The indigenous people of the artic part of Canada are properly referred
to
as Inuit, not Eskimos.

Well, sure they are properly referred to as Inuit, that's the name they
call themselves but if they were/are eaters of raw meat then they are
properly referred to Eskimo by the other Native Americans who saw them as
such.


Right, so unless the person using it is a Native American, the term "Eskimo"
is incorrect.
--
the volleyballchick

"nanner" wrote in message
...

"Nunya B." wrote in message
...

"nanner" wrote in message
...

"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
...
LW,

The indigenous people of the artic part of Canada are properly referred
to
as Inuit, not Eskimos.

Well, sure they are properly referred to as Inuit, that's the name they
call themselves but if they were/are eaters of raw meat then they are
properly referred to Eskimo by the other Native Americans who saw them
as such.


Right, so unless the person using it is a Native American, the term
"Eskimo" is incorrect.
--
the volleyballchick


by that logic shouldn't we just call the Inuit "people" since that is the
definition of the word and we are not Inuit?

In a perfectly PC world, sure. But Inuit is what the aboriginals of the
Arctic region prefer to be called thus it is fine to call them that. They
do not prefer to be called Eskimos. It's like calling the aboriginals of
the US "Indians." At one time it was acceptable among white people to do
that though the people they were referring to never considered themselves to
be mistakenly from India. So sure, call them Eskimos if you want to sound
like an ignorant white person, just don't expect that because that's the way
it was done for so long that it's acceptable to everyone.
--
the volleyballchick