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  #11  
Old July 28th, 2004, 03:05 AM
SnugBear
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Dewolla Stepon wrote:

Its my certifiable perfectionism and personality type that makes me
want to keep track of everything. You ought to see my spreadsheet; it
really is extreme.


Spreadsheets are very cool g I'm not sure how some people get along
without them. I had to add a sheet to track my biking!

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Old July 28th, 2004, 05:17 AM
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Dewolla Stepon wrote:

Not an exciting week, but a productive one. I lost 2.7 pounds and am almost
down to size 16! Following the recommendations of my nutritionalist I am
trying to keep my fats below 30% of total calories and proteins below 15%.
Not quite there yet, but very close! I've had to rebalance my old eating
plan, it threw me off for one or two days but I'm synced up now. I had been
using a spreadsheet to track and calculate my nutritional information and
now have had to add subtotals by each of six daily meals to make certain I'm
getting a proper balance of nutrition for each meal and that my carbs are
distributed reasonably evenly throughout the day.


Your nutritionist has told you to make sure you get most of your
calories from carbs?

I'm trying to think of something nice to say about this.

Let me put it this way: I find that I lose weight best and feel the most
sated when I can manage to keep my carbs UNDER 50%. I aim for 25-35% of
my calories from protein and the same range for fats. I find this menu
to be so much more satiating and sustainable on a tight calorie budget.

Your mileage may vary, of course, but be warned that 50% of all
nutritionists graduated in the bottom half of their class.

Dally


  #13  
Old July 28th, 2004, 01:27 PM
Dewolla Stepon
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"Chris Braun" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:37:47 GMT, "Dewolla Stepon"
wrote:

Not an exciting week, but a productive one. I lost 2.7 pounds and am

almost
down to size 16! Following the recommendations of my nutritionalist I am
trying to keep my fats below 30% of total calories and proteins below

15%.
Not quite there yet, but very close! I've had to rebalance my old eating
plan, it threw me off for one or two days but I'm synced up now. I had

been
using a spreadsheet to track and calculate my nutritional information and
now have had to add subtotals by each of six daily meals to make certain

I'm
getting a proper balance of nutrition for each meal and that my carbs are
distributed reasonably evenly throughout the day.

Fourteen pounds to go to my goal, ten weeks to goal date, should be

doable.

Congrats -- you're doing great! But why does your nutritionist want
you to keep your protein so low??


With diabetes is an increased risk of kidney disease, and excess protein
puts a strain on the kidneys.

- Dewolla


  #14  
Old July 28th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Dewolla Stepon
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"Dally" wrote in message
...
Dewolla Stepon wrote:

Not an exciting week, but a productive one. I lost 2.7 pounds and am

almost
down to size 16! Following the recommendations of my nutritionalist I

am
trying to keep my fats below 30% of total calories and proteins below

15%.
Not quite there yet, but very close! I've had to rebalance my old

eating
plan, it threw me off for one or two days but I'm synced up now. I had

been
using a spreadsheet to track and calculate my nutritional information

and
now have had to add subtotals by each of six daily meals to make certain

I'm
getting a proper balance of nutrition for each meal and that my carbs

are
distributed reasonably evenly throughout the day.


Your nutritionist has told you to make sure you get most of your
calories from carbs?

I'm trying to think of something nice to say about this.


Remember Thumper's mom? "If you can't think of something nice to say, say
nothing at all."

Let me put it this way: I find that I lose weight best and feel the most
sated when I can manage to keep my carbs UNDER 50%. I aim for 25-35% of
my calories from protein and the same range for fats. I find this menu
to be so much more satiating and sustainable on a tight calorie budget.


I'm losing an average of 2.89 pounds per week since January 13th, I haven't
been hungry at all since I started eating 6 meals per day and increased my
fat intake.

Your mileage may vary, of course, but be warned that 50% of all
nutritionists graduated in the bottom half of their class.


My mileage does vary.

- Dewolla


  #15  
Old July 28th, 2004, 03:25 PM
Dewolla Stepon
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Thank you. I prefer to take my medical advice from my own physician. No
offense meant, but I don't know you (or Dally, or anyone here) from Adam's
off ox. My relationship with physician goes back many years; he has saved
my life twice; he is highly respected by his peers and I trust him
completely.

Intimating my health care professionals are irrational and hopeless is not
welcomed by me. I accept the blame for opening the door; I foolishly posted
my nutritional details and thereby left myself open to criticism from anyone
who has an opinion and internet access.

- Dewolla

"Ignoramus31782" wrote in message
...
In article 3ZMNc.174202$%_6.115096@attbi_s01, Dewolla Stepon wrote:
"Chris Braun" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:37:47 GMT, "Dewolla Stepon"
wrote:

Not an exciting week, but a productive one. I lost 2.7 pounds and am

almost
down to size 16! Following the recommendations of my nutritionalist I

am
trying to keep my fats below 30% of total calories and proteins below

15%.
Not quite there yet, but very close! I've had to rebalance my old

eating
plan, it threw me off for one or two days but I'm synced up now. I

had
been
using a spreadsheet to track and calculate my nutritional information

and
now have had to add subtotals by each of six daily meals to make

certain
I'm
getting a proper balance of nutrition for each meal and that my carbs

are
distributed reasonably evenly throughout the day.

Fourteen pounds to go to my goal, ten weeks to goal date, should be

doable.

Congrats -- you're doing great! But why does your nutritionist want
you to keep your protein so low??


With diabetes is an increased risk of kidney disease, and excess protein
puts a strain on the kidneys.


Dewolla, I would like to piggyback a little bit on what Dally said and
mention a few things.

One is that for a diabetic, frequent blood glucose testing is
essential.

Waiting until winter to do your Hba1c test and doing no testing of
your own, is not a rational strategy at all. Especially given that
most likely, your blood testing supplies would be covered by
insurance. Even if not, $40 or so you would spend on a cheap meter and
strips and lancets, is a cheap price to pay compared to having legs
amputated, going blind, dying from heart disease etc.

If your nutritionist did not advise you to test your blood glucose
often, it is basically time to get another nutritionist. This one
would be hopeless in this case.

Another point is that there is nothing worse for kidneys than high
blood glucose levels (even if they are high only for part of the
day). Also, healthy kidneys are not strained by protein. We were made
to eat it.

See http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/r....asp?catid=207, or
medline article 10578207 (" Moderate changes in dietary protein
intake cause adaptive alterations in renal size and function without
indications of adverse effects."). I can give you more references if
you are interested.

Also, even though this was not mentioned, low carb diets are
frequently labeled by ignorant people as "high protein diets". While
some low carbers may eat a lot of protein, the great majority of low
carbers eat a high fat diet, not high protein diet. If your
nutritionist tells you that low carb diets are high protein diets,
again, getting a more educated nutritionist would be wise.

Try joining alt.support.diabetes, it is a great newsgroup with
numerous people keeping up on research, actually keeping their
diabetes under control, etc.

Your high carb diet might work -- and it might not work -- because you
are restricting your calories and exercising. There is a good chance
that it does not work, but you won't know that unless you test your
blood sugar during the day. There is also a good chance that even if
it works, it will stop workig at some point (like when you start
eating more to maintain your weight).

I do not mean to patronize you or anything, what I said are the most
basic common sense things that are well known and not really
disputable.

i



  #16  
Old July 28th, 2004, 03:41 PM
Dewolla Stepon
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And good luck to you.

- Dewolla

"Ignoramus31782" wrote in message
...
Good luck with not testing your blood glucose with diabetes.

I take no offense, personally, and wish you good health, and hope you
continue with your diet program.

i

In article mHONc.176839$IQ4.138441@attbi_s02, Dewolla Stepon wrote:
Thank you. I prefer to take my medical advice from my own physician.

No
offense meant, but I don't know you (or Dally, or anyone here) from

Adam's
off ox. My relationship with physician goes back many years; he has

saved
my life twice; he is highly respected by his peers and I trust him
completely.

Intimating my health care professionals are irrational and hopeless is

not
welcomed by me. I accept the blame for opening the door; I foolishly

posted
my nutritional details and thereby left myself open to criticism from

anyone
who has an opinion and internet access.

- Dewolla

"Ignoramus31782" wrote in message
...
In article 3ZMNc.174202$%_6.115096@attbi_s01, Dewolla Stepon wrote:
"Chris Braun" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:37:47 GMT, "Dewolla Stepon"
wrote:

Not an exciting week, but a productive one. I lost 2.7 pounds and

am
almost
down to size 16! Following the recommendations of my

nutritionalist I
am
trying to keep my fats below 30% of total calories and proteins

below
15%.
Not quite there yet, but very close! I've had to rebalance my old

eating
plan, it threw me off for one or two days but I'm synced up now. I

had
been
using a spreadsheet to track and calculate my nutritional

information
and
now have had to add subtotals by each of six daily meals to make

certain
I'm
getting a proper balance of nutrition for each meal and that my

carbs
are
distributed reasonably evenly throughout the day.

Fourteen pounds to go to my goal, ten weeks to goal date, should be
doable.

Congrats -- you're doing great! But why does your nutritionist want
you to keep your protein so low??

With diabetes is an increased risk of kidney disease, and excess

protein
puts a strain on the kidneys.

Dewolla, I would like to piggyback a little bit on what Dally said and
mention a few things.

One is that for a diabetic, frequent blood glucose testing is
essential.

Waiting until winter to do your Hba1c test and doing no testing of
your own, is not a rational strategy at all. Especially given that
most likely, your blood testing supplies would be covered by
insurance. Even if not, $40 or so you would spend on a cheap meter and
strips and lancets, is a cheap price to pay compared to having legs
amputated, going blind, dying from heart disease etc.

If your nutritionist did not advise you to test your blood glucose
often, it is basically time to get another nutritionist. This one
would be hopeless in this case.

Another point is that there is nothing worse for kidneys than high
blood glucose levels (even if they are high only for part of the
day). Also, healthy kidneys are not strained by protein. We were made
to eat it.

See http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/r....asp?catid=207, or
medline article 10578207 (" Moderate changes in dietary protein
intake cause adaptive alterations in renal size and function without
indications of adverse effects."). I can give you more references if
you are interested.

Also, even though this was not mentioned, low carb diets are
frequently labeled by ignorant people as "high protein diets". While
some low carbers may eat a lot of protein, the great majority of low
carbers eat a high fat diet, not high protein diet. If your
nutritionist tells you that low carb diets are high protein diets,
again, getting a more educated nutritionist would be wise.

Try joining alt.support.diabetes, it is a great newsgroup with
numerous people keeping up on research, actually keeping their
diabetes under control, etc.

Your high carb diet might work -- and it might not work -- because you
are restricting your calories and exercising. There is a good chance
that it does not work, but you won't know that unless you test your
blood sugar during the day. There is also a good chance that even if
it works, it will stop workig at some point (like when you start
eating more to maintain your weight).

I do not mean to patronize you or anything, what I said are the most
basic common sense things that are well known and not really
disputable.

i





  #17  
Old July 29th, 2004, 12:56 AM
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:27:43 GMT, "Dewolla Stepon"
wrote:

"Chris Braun" wrote in message
.. .


Congrats -- you're doing great! But why does your nutritionist want
you to keep your protein so low??


With diabetes is an increased risk of kidney disease, and excess protein
puts a strain on the kidneys.

- Dewolla


Ah -- I didn't know that about diabetes. But that is an issue with
high protein consumption, I know.

I hope my question didn't offend you. I didn't mean to second guess
you or your nutritionist. I just thought it was an unusual constraint
and was curious about the reason.

Chris
 




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