never fails

When I started Induction on September 21st, I was pretty depressed. I
had stopped counting my carbs or really paying attention to my eating
at all. Or anything else, really. In the past couple months I have
actually found myself on a sugar *binge* -- a *binge*, mind you -- as
in a latenight trip to the Walgreens candy aisle for licorice Allsorts
and chocolate-- and all I could think about was how long and awful the
haul was going to be back down to Skinny c.

I almost didn't care anymore, and I didn't even want to do it.

I sat in the middle of the seesaw between being fat and being too lazy
and overwhelmed to start for a couple weeks, and then I thought, holy
hell, I'm getting old, and now I'm going to be fat like my mom and
then I'll probably start listening to Lake Woebegone and driving some
horrible Oldsmobile and this is just...this is just not acceptable.

So I started Induction. I didn't want to. I didn't even think it was
going to work. I was waiting around for it not to work so I could try
Weight Watchers or Jenny Craig or something. I was eating a LOT at
first -- maybe averaging 1800 to 2000 some days and I was HUNGRY and I
was MAD and I had a HEADACHE and NOTHING was happening. I lost five
pounds and suddenly noticed I seemed even FATTER than I did before I
started.

And then about three days ago, on day sixteen, my appetite just went
away. Just plain left. I was able to pay attention to what I was
eating because I really didn't want it anyway.

I can never get over this when it happens. It actually took a little
longer than usual, but what a miracle. Not only that, my bad mood
lifted, my concentration was better, and the anxiety I had been
feeling just melted. My calories drifted down just magically and today
I had to take a couple spoonfuls of oil to get to 1200.

That's how fast. That's how plain trippy lowcarbing is.

Sugar is a legal drug. Kick it and see.

c
on the road again

What's with this drinking oil?

On Oct 10, 8:11 am, "Pat" wrote:
What's with this drinking oil?

Oil is pure fat. Calories with no insulin response whatsoever. Fats
are thermogenic, eat it and you will burn lots of skippy.

c
science is my friend

"Pat" wrote:

What's with this drinking oil?

It's a way to bring up total calories, and it's a way to increase the
fat to protein ratio. It's also self-limiting the time I tried it -
Within
a couple of days I could no longer gag the stuff down.

In the first few weeks of Atkins it's definitely the wrong thing to
do.
Once the appetite falls the answer isn't to forget food to the point
that you need to drink oil to keep out of the staravtion range. The
answer is to view food as fuel, and as a preventative measure to
keep hunger from coming back, and as something to be enjoyed
now that portion control is easy as small portions can be spread
over the time of a meal.

I see it as a common mistake folks make early in the plan. The
appetite drops, the newness of that impresses, and over-reaction
is done. As long as folks are nudged back towards eating real
food like veggies and meat, it should be temporary.

C - Don't turn the appetite suppression into a weapon used against
yourself. Use it as a tool to right-size portions. You've done it
before so do that again now. And enjoy the lack of cravings.

On Oct 10, 11:13 am, Doug Freyburger wrote:
"Pat" wrote:

What's with this drinking oil?

It's a way to bring up total calories, and it's a way to increase the
fat to protein ratio. It's also self-limiting the time I tried it -
Within
a couple of days I could no longer gag the stuff down.

In the first few weeks of Atkins it's definitely the wrong thing to
do.
Once the appetite falls the answer isn't to forget food to the point
that you need to drink oil to keep out of the staravtion range. The
answer is to view food as fuel, and as a preventative measure to
keep hunger from coming back, and as something to be enjoyed
now that portion control is easy as small portions can be spread
over the time of a meal.

I see it as a common mistake folks make early in the plan. The
appetite drops, the newness of that impresses, and over-reaction
is done. As long as folks are nudged back towards eating real
food like veggies and meat, it should be temporary.

C - Don't turn the appetite suppression into a weapon used against
yourself. Use it as a tool to right-size portions. You've done it
before so do that again now. And enjoy the lack of cravings.

. Hi Doug:

My rule is generally that when I'm not hungry, I don't eat. I've been
on a course of steroids and antidperessants, and I know that insulin
resistance has grown horns, a tail and rented a condo in my body at
this point. When my IR is low, I can eat 2000 and maintain my weight
way way under 200 pounds. When it's high, I have to go under 1500 at
least, and I tend to push the fat content up rather than add veggies
or protein.

Protein also spikes insulin to a lesser degree, Non starchy vegetables
do the same.

Nothing wrong with fat. Unless you eat it on a donut.

c

all butter, no muffin

Doug Freyburger wrote:
"Pat" wrote:
What's with this drinking oil?

It's a way to bring up total calories, and it's a way to increase the
fat to protein ratio. It's also self-limiting the time I tried it -
Within
a couple of days I could no longer gag the stuff down.

I just can't see sipping oil.

It seems to me much easier to add fat to your diet by combining it with
veggies: butterhead lettuce with olive oil drizzled on top; bell
peppers, onions and garlic stirfried in avocado oil; an artichoke dipped
in melted butter.

It's dead simple to get lots of fat if you use a veggie substrate for
the fat.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

On Oct 10, 1:07?pm, Jackie Patti wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
"Pat" wrote:
What's with this drinking oil?

It's a way to bring up total calories, and it's a way to increase the
fat to protein ratio. It's also self-limiting the time I tried it -
Within
a couple of days I could no longer gag the stuff down.

I just can't see sipping oil.

It seems to me much easier to add fat to your diet by combining it with
veggies: butterhead lettuce with olive oil drizzled on top; bell
peppers, onions and garlic stirfried in avocado oil; an artichoke dipped
in melted butter.

It's dead simple to get lots of fat if you use a veggie substrate for
the fat.

--http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

Onions rock but they're also 8 carbs per half cup and an artichoke is
about the same depending on how you cook it.

Lettuce...personally, I'd rather inhale fresh radon from the garden,
but thanks for the suggestion.

c

I'd smoke lettuce.

Try unsweetened Ghirardelli chocolate, it's much better than Baker's.

Roger Zoul wrote:
| Unsweetened Baker's chocolate....

Iceberg lettuce sucks, romaine is pretty good, mixed baby greens are
wonderful. Spinach is excellent as well, raw or cooked.

wrote:
| Onions rock but they're also 8 carbs per half cup and an artichoke is
| about the same depending on how you cook it.
|
| Lettuce...personally, I'd rather inhale fresh radon from the garden,
| but thanks for the suggestion.
|
| c
|
| I'd smoke lettuce.

"FOB" wrote

Try unsweetened Ghirardelli chocolate, it's much better than Baker's.

I will, if it's not carbier. The Baker's tastes good to me.


Roger Zoul wrote:
| Unsweetened Baker's chocolate....