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Old May 18th, 2004, 05:16 PM
Jackie Patti
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Default Longest scientific study yet backs Atkins diet

Peanutjake wrote:

But my question is what is the effect of each type of diet on a diabetic?


The second study showed significantly better glycemic control on low-carb.

Which seems frankly so damned obvious to me that it seems ridiculous to
need a study.

People with impaired carbohydrate metabolism should limit carbs!
Surprise!

Blond moments in science...

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to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

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Old May 18th, 2004, 05:41 PM
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 23:43:27 +0900, Doug Lerner
wrote:

On 5/18/04 10:44 PM, in article
, "Diarmid Logan"
wrote:

By the end, both groups had lost about the same amount of weight,
between five and eight kilograms for the Atkins group and three and
eight kilos for the low fat group. But the Atkins dieters lost almost
all their weight in the first six months, then remained at a steady
weight.


Which is precisely the PROBLEM I had with Atkins. After six months I entered
a six month stall, and have only broken that stall by switching to a
low-calorie diet.

doug

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sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci .med.cardiology

Mr. Lerner, you seem to believe that following the Atkins diet
requires one to consume great quantities of food. After six months
you entered a six month stall because you were eating too much. Do
not blame the Atkins diet. Gluttony is not on the list of rules for
the Atkins diet. Perhaps a thorough reading of the section in DANDR
titled "The Atkins and you diet" is in order. It is near the end of
most editions just before the recipe section. HTH
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Old May 18th, 2004, 05:41 PM
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"But my question is what is the effect of each type of diet on a
diabetic?"

From the year long research:

" In the subgroup of 54 persons with diabetes, hemoglobin A[1c] levels
improved more with the low-carbohydrate diet, but the difference was
not statistically significant in sensitivity analyses. Both groups had
similar changes in other lipids and in insulin sensitivity."
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Old May 18th, 2004, 06:00 PM
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"The second study showed significantly better glycemic control on
low-carb."

Not according to the study:

" In the subgroup of 54 persons with diabetes, hemoglobin A[1c] levels
improved more with the low-carbohydrate diet, but the difference was
not statistically significant in sensitivity analyses. Both groups had
similar changes in other lipids and in insulin sensitivity."
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Old May 18th, 2004, 06:52 PM
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"No switching is required with the 2PD approach which can be dovetailed
with
reduced carbs if you choose.
"

Even more effective is the 2 minute diet, eat anything within the time
period from any diet, even using a different diet each meal, switching is
encouraged.
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Old May 18th, 2004, 07:03 PM
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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gman99 wrote:

(Diarmid Logan) wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995003

Longest scientific study yet backs Atkins diet

A year long study with 132 people does NOT a true trial make...six months
is nothing....


Correct.


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Old May 18th, 2004, 07:10 PM
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Default Diarmid, cross posting request, was longest scientific etc.

Mr./Ms. Diarmid, may I suggest you not cross post to several newsgroups.
We are plagued buy the troll behavior of an infamous "Dr." who hangs out
on one ng mostly but is eagar to do cross posting. Many of us think he or
someone who gets a kick out of doing so, cross post on purpose in order to
permit him to say he didn't start the cross posting. Leave him in that ng
alone and let the rest of us not have to see his self rightious trolling
and other self promoting behaviors.
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Old May 18th, 2004, 07:48 PM
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a ****ing crossposting spammer

The LAST thing anyone needs is a drooling crossposter like tis

When shills spread things all ofer the newsgroups, we know that their
sock puppets are not far behind


Diarmid Logan wrote:

snip

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Old May 18th, 2004, 08:35 PM
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Default Origin of the "two pound" diet. [Longest scientific study yet backs Atkins diet]

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote on Tue, 18 May 2004
14:03:32 -0400:
Doug Lerner wrote:


No switching is required with the 2PD approach which can be dovetailed
with reduced carbs if you choose.


I've discovered where the two pound diet comes from. The idea was first
put forth in chapter 1 of that hilarious classic, "Three Men in a Boat"
by Jerome K. Jerome, published in 1889:

Another fellow I knew went for a week's voyage round the coast, and,
before they started, the steward came to him to ask whether he would
pay for each meal as he had it, or arrange beforehand for the whole
series.


The steward recommended the latter course, as it would come so much
cheaper. He said they would do him for the whole week at
two-pounds-five.

[Note for youngsters and "foreigners": at the time, the British pound was
subdivided into twenty shillings, and each shilling was divided into
twelve pence.]

The poor passenger, due to the vicissitudes of the weather ended up
consuming rather less than anticipated. Finally ....

'There she goes,' he said, 'there she goes, with *two* *pounds'*
worth of food on board that belongs to me, and that I haven't had.'


This, I believe, later served as the inspiration for the "2 pound diet".

Andrew


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