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a note to ignoranus
Ok, I got a note that you again were having some sort of bug up your ass
because I choose not to obsess about my weight these days. Let's get some things straight here and now. You are not privy to my situation or my treatment. We are not in the same situation nor are we alike. You don't know me and what you know about anorexia and bulimia probably wouldn't fit into a thimble. Too bad that the way I'm dealing with *my* situation doesn't meet the ignoranus stamp of approval but life doesn't always go your way. First you were blasting me a while back because I'm not publicly posting my weight to be accountable to you. Well tough. I'm in a maintenance program where I'm weighed in weekly, which I mentioned numerous times. I'm also in a separate treatment program for my eating disorders. *I* don't look at my weight because I don't process the numbers rationally due to my eating disorder. I stand backwards on the scale and the nurse or dietician records the numbers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Again - I'm not retarded and do have a good idea of what I weigh. Sometimes I actually give in and look myself - sorry I haven't reported every single one of my movements and thoughts over the last 3 months so you could keep up. It's all part of *my* treatment. I don't need to know the exact pound when a decile works fine for my purposes. Once I'm weighed, I get feedback. I don't live in a vacuum. These people actually speak to me about how things are going, go figure. I know that I've maintained my current weight for 3 months. I have treatment goals since my first priority is to overcome the eating disorder. I realize I can't get you to stop talking about me as if you know a thing about my personal situation. Just so you know, I'm not going to respond to you. Other people may find your tactless ignorance charming or even tolerable, but I don't. It would make me happier than anything if you could just disregard my existence as I try to do with you. Oh, and since I have to spell this out - I didn't see the original comments but they were forwarded to me. I still intend to keep you KF'd. Please go live a happy life and expend your energy on someone who cares. JMA |
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a note to ignoranus
Jenn
Just wanted to say (yet again) that I think I understand at least some of where you're coming from. I certainly know about being weighed and asking not to know what the numbers say, particularly if other things are in a fragile state. This has been interpreted here as "burying my head in the sand" but some of us know it doesn't mean this at all. For some reason I find I can tolerate Ig's posts, although his patronising attitude and the constant implication that we need his approval for everything we do can be very difficult to take, as can recent assertions to other posters empathising with them because he also is a "compulsive overeater". Apologies, as I think I've used your post as an excuse for a small rant, but I hope you know from past posts that my comments to you are meant to be supportive janice 233/184/133 On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:41:37 -0600, "JMA" wrote: Ok, I got a note that you again were having some sort of bug up your ass because I choose not to obsess about my weight these days. Let's get some things straight here and now. You are not privy to my situation or my treatment. We are not in the same situation nor are we alike. You don't know me and what you know about anorexia and bulimia probably wouldn't fit into a thimble. Too bad that the way I'm dealing with *my* situation doesn't meet the ignoranus stamp of approval but life doesn't always go your way. First you were blasting me a while back because I'm not publicly posting my weight to be accountable to you. Well tough. I'm in a maintenance program where I'm weighed in weekly, which I mentioned numerous times. I'm also in a separate treatment program for my eating disorders. *I* don't look at my weight because I don't process the numbers rationally due to my eating disorder. I stand backwards on the scale and the nurse or dietician records the numbers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Again - I'm not retarded and do have a good idea of what I weigh. Sometimes I actually give in and look myself - sorry I haven't reported every single one of my movements and thoughts over the last 3 months so you could keep up. It's all part of *my* treatment. I don't need to know the exact pound when a decile works fine for my purposes. Once I'm weighed, I get feedback. I don't live in a vacuum. These people actually speak to me about how things are going, go figure. I know that I've maintained my current weight for 3 months. I have treatment goals since my first priority is to overcome the eating disorder. I realize I can't get you to stop talking about me as if you know a thing about my personal situation. Just so you know, I'm not going to respond to you. Other people may find your tactless ignorance charming or even tolerable, but I don't. It would make me happier than anything if you could just disregard my existence as I try to do with you. Oh, and since I have to spell this out - I didn't see the original comments but they were forwarded to me. I still intend to keep you KF'd. Please go live a happy life and expend your energy on someone who cares. JMA |
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a note to ignoranus
"janice" wrote in message ... Jenn Just wanted to say (yet again) that I think I understand at least some of where you're coming from. I certainly know about being weighed and asking not to know what the numbers say, particularly if other things are in a fragile state. This has been interpreted here as "burying my head in the sand" but some of us know it doesn't mean this at all. Well, I'm just tired of the comments by people who again don't know me or my situation and have made assumptions based on the limited information I choose to share and their limited knowledge base. For some reason I find I can tolerate Ig's posts, although his patronising attitude and the constant implication that we need his approval for everything we do can be very difficult to take, as can You've hit the nail squarely on the head here... recent assertions to other posters empathising with them because he also is a "compulsive overeater". Not my place to judge. If that's his problem then I hope he gets the help he needs and stops making judgements about everyone else. I have my opinions about his situation, but unlike him, I know they're assumptions and possibly way off base so I keep it to myself. Apologies, as I think I've used your post as an excuse for a small rant, but I hope you know from past posts that my comments to you are meant to be supportive Not a problem. People use this forum to vent as I have done. I like this group and I really get a lot from it, including support and motivation. I certainly don't need a constant group hug, but I have no real desire to beat my head against the wall with someone for whom I have zero respect because of his attitude toward me and others. Jenn |
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a note to ignoranus
He does not get it, will never get it, you are wasting your energy typing
this! It doesn't matter how many posts you or anyone else (including me) can write telling him off. He will never stop being who he is.... Some people are smart enough to evolve into a better human being and some aren't. He is one of the ones that can't regardless of the amount of time or energy people spend trying to make him "get it". "JMA" wrote in message ... Ok, I got a note that you again were having some sort of bug up your ass because I choose not to obsess about my weight these days. Let's get some things straight here and now. You are not privy to my situation or my treatment. We are not in the same situation nor are we alike. You don't know me and what you know about anorexia and bulimia probably wouldn't fit into a thimble. Too bad that the way I'm dealing with *my* situation doesn't meet the ignoranus stamp of approval but life doesn't always go your way. First you were blasting me a while back because I'm not publicly posting my weight to be accountable to you. Well tough. I'm in a maintenance program where I'm weighed in weekly, which I mentioned numerous times. I'm also in a separate treatment program for my eating disorders. *I* don't look at my weight because I don't process the numbers rationally due to my eating disorder. I stand backwards on the scale and the nurse or dietician records the numbers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Again - I'm not retarded and do have a good idea of what I weigh. Sometimes I actually give in and look myself - sorry I haven't reported every single one of my movements and thoughts over the last 3 months so you could keep up. It's all part of *my* treatment. I don't need to know the exact pound when a decile works fine for my purposes. Once I'm weighed, I get feedback. I don't live in a vacuum. These people actually speak to me about how things are going, go figure. I know that I've maintained my current weight for 3 months. I have treatment goals since my first priority is to overcome the eating disorder. I realize I can't get you to stop talking about me as if you know a thing about my personal situation. Just so you know, I'm not going to respond to you. Other people may find your tactless ignorance charming or even tolerable, but I don't. It would make me happier than anything if you could just disregard my existence as I try to do with you. Oh, and since I have to spell this out - I didn't see the original comments but they were forwarded to me. I still intend to keep you KF'd. Please go live a happy life and expend your energy on someone who cares. JMA |
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a note to ignoranus
On 2/25/2004 9:33 AM, Perple Gyrl wrote:
He does not get it, will never get it, you are wasting your energy typing this! Right. I'll say this even though it's stating the obvious -- he can be a really ASS. It doesn't matter how many posts you or anyone else (including me) can write telling him off. He will never stop being who he is.... Some people are smart enough to evolve into a better human being and some aren't. Yup, good point. Also, he's so busy thinking that he's better than everyone else that he cannot see that there is A LOT of room for improvement. He is one of the ones that can't regardless of the amount of time or energy people spend trying to make him "get it". -- jmk in NC |
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a note to ignoranus
I realize I can't get you to stop talking about me as if you know a thing about my personal situation. Just so you know, I'm not going to respond to you. Other people may find your tactless ignorance charming or even tolerable, but I don't. It would make me happier than anything if you could just disregard my existence as I try to do with you. congrats to you JMA for taking control of your life and your recovery! rosie |
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a note to ignoranus
Ignoramus18484 wrote:
Just like Alien, Ilike just checking out what is in the fridge. Being at work all day and not eating at night help with that. On weekends, what helps is grabbing some vegetables from the fridge instead of cookies and candy, as I used to do. My point is that clearly, I have not been cured of anything and my overeating is simply under control. If I may, their point is that this in no way resembles being a "compulsive eater". In fact, you and I have absolutely no idea what it means to be a compulsive eater. We just don't have that illness. We're logic-driven and a vague desire to eat for entertainment is easily coutnered by either a.) eating the object of our desire and stopping or b.) deciding to have something better for us. *Desiring* something unhealthy is not the same as have a compulsion. Having your "overeating" under control is a good indicator that you are a compulsive eater, in fact. Someone with an OCD or an eating disorder would say they've got their disorder under control. Over-eating is just the manifestation of the disorder, not the actual disorder. Dally |
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a note to ignoranus
jmk wrote:
On 2/25/2004 9:33 AM, Perple Gyrl wrote: He does not get it, will never get it, you are wasting your energy typing this! Right. I'll say this even though it's stating the obvious -- he can be a really ASS. I wish you wouldn't. Not because I don't think you should think it, but because there's no reason to turn this into an invective name-calling place. Yes, he's different. Yes, it's hard to bear (as am I). So don't read him. Getting on his case for annoying you really says more about you than it does him. Dally |
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a note to ignoranus
Ignoramus18484 wrote in
: The advantage is that the message delivered bluntly can have more impact than going round in circles. I have to totally agree with you there. I for one like bluntness. I would rather be told something for what something is. Not sugar coat it and make the spider out to be a butterfly. If you get what I mean. The disadvantage is a distraction due to dealing with overly sensitive people who live in la la land and get offended when that is pointed out, and cannot get over it even over an extended period of time. The reason some (not all, so please don't flame,I'm not pointing fingers) people get oversensitive is because the truth can hurt sometimes and we have to step back and say. Woah! That is me.We just have to learn to take it and learn from it. Not shoot off our guns to make up for the hurt. (again just speaking in general,not toward anyone.)If the point given does not relate to a persons situation they should just simply move on and not give it another thought. -- --------------- starting 365 current 216 goal 200 hieght 6'3" 27 male NC In Da House --------------- |
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a note to ignoranus
"jmk" wrote in message
... On 2/25/2004 9:33 AM, Perple Gyrl wrote: He does not get it, will never get it, you are wasting your energy typing this! Right. I'll say this even though it's stating the obvious -- he can be a really ASS. I didn't really intend for this to become a bashing session. I just wanted to point out again that assumptions are being made about ME with very little actual facts and I don't appreciate it. It doesn't matter how many posts you or anyone else (including me) can write telling him off. He will never stop being who he is.... Some people are smart enough to evolve into a better human being and some aren't. Yup, good point. Also, he's so busy thinking that he's better than everyone else that he cannot see that there is A LOT of room for improvement. That's his problem. I just want him to stop talking about me like he knows anything about me. Jenn |
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