Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie

convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

snip


Those who choose to unwisely engage in strenuous exercise while obese
typically end up being worse off when they sustain injury which often
is attributed to osteoarthritis rather than to the exercise. What is
clinically observed is that once people are lean and trim from eating
less, they find themselves more capable of exercising strenuously more
comfortably and with less injury.

Indeed, that has been my own
personal experience now physically able to run ultramarathons not
because of training but because of losing all my visceral adipose
tissue (VAT),

Hey, that's pretty cool...

The truth is cool.

I'm sure many athletes would be interested in that
"training strategy".

The world class athletes already know that the hungrier they are the
more capable they physically become.

Bizarre...

Truth seems bizarre to the untruthful.

can you cite any studies or articles supporting this assertion
(other than the voices in your head)?

Simply recall the history of ex-champion Mike Tyson.

It was lean&trim&hungry Mike Tyson that was feared.

When an athlete loses in a competition where s/he was a physical match
with his/her competitor, s/he knows that s/he was not hungry enough.

Again...any proof of this?

This is common knowledge.

LORD Almighty GOD is the Source of all true knowledge and wisdom.

Your lack of knowledge simply shows you are without GOD's favor.

In countries where the brainwashing that "hunger is bad" does not
occur (ie Kenya), the runners are leaner, trimmer, and much faster
because they know in their hearts that "hunger is good."

Yeah, I heard the Auschwitz 10,000 meter relay team was world class.

Starving people are not hungry.

BTW - as usual, you ducked my earlier question: "Have you ever actually
completed an ultramarathon...?"

In the Holy Spirit, I know HE has made me able.

You asserted in your post above that you were capable of running an
"ultramarathon" (typically, 50 or 100 miles, per
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon ). Have you done so, or is this
just another delusion of grandeur on your part?

It is knowledge from the Holy Spirit.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Marana tha !

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

On Feb 8, 8:38 am, Mu wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:42:41 -0800, Don Kirkman wrote:
A Google search for Andrew Chung in ultramarathon results came up empty.
Since ultra running is such a small, tight-knit community I think the
sudden appearance of an unknown would have been remarked on by somebody
along the way.

[. . .]

This tight knot community, of which I trained several ultra-athletes,
not o one of them comes up on any search yet i watched them myself start
and finish.


Did you train Chung? has he run an ultramarathon? What was his time?

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
oups.com...
convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

snip


Those who choose to unwisely engage in strenuous exercise while
obese
typically end up being worse off when they sustain injury which
often
is attributed to osteoarthritis rather than to the exercise. What
is
clinically observed is that once people are lean and trim from
eating
less, they find themselves more capable of exercising strenuously
more
comfortably and with less injury.

Indeed, that has been my own
personal experience now physically able to run ultramarathons not
because of training but because of losing all my visceral adipose
tissue (VAT),

Hey, that's pretty cool...

The truth is cool.

I'm sure many athletes would be interested in that
"training strategy".

The world class athletes already know that the hungrier they are the
more capable they physically become.

Bizarre...

Truth seems bizarre to the untruthful.

No...you seem bizarre to the rational.


can you cite any studies or articles supporting this assertion
(other than the voices in your head)?

Simply recall the history of ex-champion Mike Tyson.

Or, in other words, "No", you can't.


It was lean&trim&hungry Mike Tyson that was feared.

When an athlete loses in a competition where s/he was a physical match
with his/her competitor, s/he knows that s/he was not hungry enough.

Again...any proof of this?

This is common knowledge.

No, it's not.

LORD Almighty GOD is the Source of all true knowledge and wisdom.

Your lack of knowledge simply shows you are without GOD's favor.

Your thinking that you have "God's favor" is pretty ironic...did your God
"favor" you when he got you fired from your one and only job as a
cardiologist after less than 3 months?

In countries where the brainwashing that "hunger is bad" does not
occur (ie Kenya), the runners are leaner, trimmer, and much faster
because they know in their hearts that "hunger is good."

Yeah, I heard the Auschwitz 10,000 meter relay team was world class.

Starving people are not hungry.

BTW - as usual, you ducked my earlier question: "Have you ever actually
completed an ultramarathon...?"

In the Holy Spirit, I know HE has made me able.

Or, in other words, "No", you've never actually run an ultramarathon, or a
standard marathon.


You asserted in your post above that you were capable of running an
"ultramarathon" (typically, 50 or 100 miles, per
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon ). Have you done so, or is
this
just another delusion of grandeur on your part?

It is knowledge from the Holy Spirit.

Be careful with that...if the "Holy Spirit" voice in your head tells you
that you can fly off of a tall building because you've been granted "God's
favor", you may find that the laws of science can trump your most fevered
faith.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

Clearly, you remain possessed by the voices in your head.

GG


http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convects

May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirat/TheWay

Marana tha !

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardialogy.com

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Mu wrote in article
:

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:42:41 -0800, Don Kirkman wrote:

A Google search for Andrew Chung in ultramarathon results came up empty.
Since ultra running is such a small, tight-knit community I think the
sudden appearance of an unknown would have been remarked on by somebody
along the way.

[. . .]

This tight knot community, of which I trained several ultra-athletes,
not o one of them comes up on any search yet i watched them myself start
and finish.

And of course you are always forthcoming with details of your claims,
just like the Good Doctor tm.
--
Don Kirkman

convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

snip


Those who choose to unwisely engage in strenuous exercise while
obese
typically end up being worse off when they sustain injury which
often
is attributed to osteoarthritis rather than to the exercise. What
is
clinically observed is that once people are lean and trim from
eating
less, they find themselves more capable of exercising strenuously
more
comfortably and with less injury.

Indeed, that has been my own
personal experience now physically able to run ultramarathons not
because of training but because of losing all my visceral adipose
tissue (VAT),

Hey, that's pretty cool...

The truth is cool.

I'm sure many athletes would be interested in that
"training strategy".

The world class athletes already know that the hungrier they are the
more capable they physically become.

Bizarre...

Truth seems bizarre to the untruthful.

No...you seem bizarre to the rational.

Your false belief that you write for the rational is a delusion of
grandeur.

can you cite any studies or articles supporting this assertion
(other than the voices in your head)?

Simply recall the history of ex-champion Mike Tyson.

Or, in other words, "No", you can't.

The toilet paper you use works even though there are no studies
proving its efficacy.

Let us know when you choose to stop using it because of lack of
studies so that folks around you will know to steer clear.

It was lean&trim&hungry Mike Tyson that was feared.

When an athlete loses in a competition where s/he was a physical match
with his/her competitor, s/he knows that s/he was not hungry enough.

Again...any proof of this?

This is common knowledge.

No, it's not.

Simply listen for the common saying concerning the losing SuperBowl
team:

"They weren't hungry enough."

LORD Almighty GOD is the Source of all true knowledge and wisdom.

Your lack of knowledge simply shows you are without GOD's favor.

Your thinking that you have "God's favor" is pretty ironic...did your God
"favor" you when he got you fired from your one and only job as a
cardiologist after less than 3 months?

Wouldn't be blessed with my current wonderful cardiology practice if I
had unwisely sided with my untruthful ex-employers in their request
that I falsify the medical records of my patients.

In countries where the brainwashing that "hunger is bad" does not
occur (ie Kenya), the runners are leaner, trimmer, and much faster
because they know in their hearts that "hunger is good."

Yeah, I heard the Auschwitz 10,000 meter relay team was world class.

Starving people are not hungry.

BTW - as usual, you ducked my earlier question: "Have you ever actually
completed an ultramarathon...?"

In the Holy Spirit, I know HE has made me able.

Or, in other words, "No", you've never actually run an ultramarathon, or a
standard marathon.

Did not run the first half-marathon before doing it for the first
time. In the Holy Spirit, I knew that HE had made me able. Sang
praise songs and shared stories about LORD Jesus Christ during the
half-marathons (both the first and the second).


You asserted in your post above that you were capable of running an
"ultramarathon" (typically, 50 or 100 miles, per
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon ). Have you done so, or is
this
just another delusion of grandeur on your part?

It is knowledge from the Holy Spirit.

Be careful with that...if the "Holy Spirit" voice in your head tells you
that you can fly off of a tall building because you've been granted "God's
favor", you may find that the laws of science can trump your most fevered
faith.

The Holy Spirit is GOD and not a voice.

"With man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Clearly, you remain possessed by the voices in your head.

Again, the Holy Spirit is GOD and not a voice.

May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Marana tha !

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article .com:

[. . .]

Simply recall the history of ex-champion Mike Tyson.

It was lean&trim&hungry Mike Tyson that was feared.

Lean and hungry Mike Tyson, at a height reported variously between 5' 9
1/2" and 5' 11", weighed between 218 and 239 pounds during his active
career, mostly in the 230s if Google reports are accurate. And if the
reports of boxers' typical training diets are to be believed, they're
never hungry.
--
Don Kirkman

convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

[. . .]

Simply recall the history of ex-champion Mike Tyson.

It was lean&trim&hungry Mike Tyson that was feared.

Lean and hungry Mike Tyson, at a height reported variously between 5' 9
1/2" and 5' 11", weighed between 218 and 239 pounds during his active
career, mostly in the 230s if Google reports are accurate. And if the
reports of boxers' typical training diets are to be believed, they're
never hungry.

It was clearly a much leaner&trimmer Buster Douglas who beat Mike
Tyson and a pudgier Buster Douglas, who lost to him.

Athletes are at their prime when lean&trim&hungry. When they stop
being lean&trim&hungry, they end up being retired and not the other
way around as the world would have you believe in the following
article:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...17/ai_75348393

Being hungry was their edge and helped these athletes be more
competitive. Their putting up with being hungry was what kept them
from overeating. Once retired the incentive to stay hungry is gone
and the weight gain accelerates because of the brainwashing that
"hunger is bad."

"Hunger is good." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

"Blessed are you who hunger now for you will be satisfied." -- LORD
Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
oups.com...
convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

[. . .]

Simply recall the history of ex-champion Mike Tyson.

It was lean&trim&hungry Mike Tyson that was feared.

Lean and hungry Mike Tyson, at a height reported variously between 5' 9
1/2" and 5' 11", weighed between 218 and 239 pounds during his active
career, mostly in the 230s if Google reports are accurate. And if the
reports of boxers' typical training diets are to be believed, they're
never hungry.

It was clearly a much leaner&trimmer Buster Douglas who beat Mike
Tyson and a pudgier Buster Douglas, who lost to him.

Athletes are at their prime when lean&trim&hungry. When they stop
being lean&trim&hungry, they end up being retired and not the other
way around as the world would have you believe in the following
article:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...17/ai_75348393

Being hungry was their edge and helped these athletes be more
competitive. Their putting up with being hungry was what kept them
from overeating. Once retired the incentive to stay hungry is gone
and the weight gain accelerates because of the brainwashing that
"hunger is bad."

"Hunger is good." -- Holy Spirit

Where the "Holy Spirit" = the voices in Chung's head.

Thanks for confirming yet again that you have both an eating disorder, and
delusions of grandeur.

GG


Amen.

"Blessed are you who hunger now for you will be satisfied." -- LORD
Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirat

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://FeartMDPhD.com/Love

False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

snip


Those who choose to unwisely engage in strenuous exercise while obese
typically end up being worse off when they sustain injury which often
is attributed to osteoarthritis rather than to the exercise. What is
clinically observed is that once people are lean and trim from eating
less, they find themselves more capable of exercising strenuously more
comfortably and with less injury.

Indeed, that has been my own
personal experience now physically able to run ultramarathons not
because of training but because of losing all my visceral adipose
tissue (VAT),

Hey, that's pretty cool...

The truth is cool.

I'm sure many athletes would be interested in that
"training strategy".

The world class athletes already know that the hungrier they are the
more capable they physically become.

Bizarre...

Truth seems bizarre to the untruthful.

can you cite any studies or articles supporting this assertion
(other than the voices in your head)?

Simply recall the history of ex-champion Mike Tyson.

It was lean&trim&hungry Mike Tyson that was feared.

When an athlete loses in a competition where s/he was a physical match
with his/her competitor, s/he knows that s/he was not hungry enough.

Again...any proof of this?

This is common knowledge.

LORD Almighty GOD is the Source of all true knowledge and wisdom.

Your lack of knowledge simply shows you are without GOD's favor.

In countries where the brainwashing that "hunger is bad" does not
occur (ie Kenya), the runners are leaner, trimmer, and much faster
because they know in their hearts that "hunger is good."

Yeah, I heard the Auschwitz 10,000 meter relay team was world class.

Starving people are not hungry.

BTW - as usual, you ducked my earlier question: "Have you ever actually
completed an ultramarathon...?"

In the Holy Spirit, I know HE has made me able.

You asserted in your post above that you were capable of running an
"ultramarathon" (typically, 50 or 100 miles, per
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon ). Have you done so, or is this
just another delusion of grandeur on your part?

It is knowledge from the Holy Spirit.

*POINK*

Chung the weasel shows his whiskers again.

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

GaryG wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
roups.com...
convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

[. . .]

Simply recall the history of ex-champion Mike Tyson.

It was lean&trim&hungry Mike Tyson that was feared.

Lean and hungry Mike Tyson, at a height reported variously between 5' 9
1/2" and 5' 11", weighed between 218 and 239 pounds during his active
career, mostly in the 230s if Google reports are accurate. And if the
reports of boxers' typical training diets are to be believed, they're
never hungry.

It was clearly a much leaner&trimmer Buster Douglas who beat Mike
Tyson and a pudgier Buster Douglas, who lost to him.

Athletes are at their prime when lean&trim&hungry. When they stop
being lean&trim&hungry, they end up being retired and not the other
way around as the world would have you believe in the following
article:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...17/ai_75348393

Being hungry was their edge and helped these athletes be more
competitive. Their putting up with being hungry was what kept them
from overeating. Once retired the incentive to stay hungry is gone
and the weight gain accelerates because of the brainwashing that
"hunger is bad."

"Hunger is good." -- Holy Spirit

Where the "Holy Spirit" = the voices in Chung's head.

Thanks for confirming yet again that you have both an eating disorder, and
delusions of grandeur.

Unbelievable. He is truly so self-deluded that he cannot see the
nonsense in the stuff he spews to usenet.

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert