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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
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"Leslie DiMaggio" wrote in message ... Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder It is recognized as growing health problem in U.S. Thursday, May 20, 2004 Helen's symptoms are typical of a newly recognized disease called binge-eating disorder, although she calls herself a compulsive overeater. They're a little slow on the draw. The book I have - Overcoming Binge Eating - is copyrighted in 1995 and lists Binge Eating Disorder as an eating disorder. Jenn |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
"Ignoramus32087" wrote in message ... In article , Leslie DiMaggio wrote: Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder no kidding! "Helen" doesn't mind that she hasn't eaten chocolate in 21 years. I do not mind that I have not eaten any sweets in almost a year. In fact, the longtime member of Overeaters Anonymous says she hasn't even missed it, which is the real miracle. I am not missing that **** either. Helen, 66, who asked that her real name not be used, is thin now, but she remembers the old days. Looks like Helen found what works so well! Which is to not put junk food in the mouth. i Your constant remedy for eating disorders has been "to just quit doing it". If only it were that easy. Your attitude shows you know absolutely nothing about the disorders or addictions. Many in the group have had problems with binge eating. Fortunately for many of us we were able to overcome the problem - for others it's a constant battle. I would hope you have the decency to see the difference and try to show support for these people instead of brushing it off as something that's easily overcome. I've seen the results of addiction and know it's not always possible for people to overcome them even when they know it's not best for them. I had a very dear family member who was an alcoholic. He had everything in the world to live for but he couldn't beat the addiction. He literally drank himself to death. He quit his job, stocked his house with alcohol and went on a drinking binge until he went into a coma and died. As hard as we tried we just weren't able to help him overcome his addiction. Your flippant attitude toward addictions and eating disorders is not very supportive. My mother always said "If you don't have anything nice to say - keep your damn mouth shut". |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
"Ignoramus32087" wrote in message ... In article , Beverly wrote: "Ignoramus32087" wrote in message ... In article , Leslie DiMaggio wrote: Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder no kidding! "Helen" doesn't mind that she hasn't eaten chocolate in 21 years. I do not mind that I have not eaten any sweets in almost a year. In fact, the longtime member of Overeaters Anonymous says she hasn't even missed it, which is the real miracle. I am not missing that **** either. Helen, 66, who asked that her real name not be used, is thin now, but she remembers the old days. Looks like Helen found what works so well! Which is to not put junk food in the mouth. i Your constant remedy for eating disorders has been "to just quit doing it". If only it were that easy. Your attitude shows you know absolutely nothing about the disorders or addictions. Many in the group have had problems with binge eating. Fortunately for many of us we were able to overcome the problem - for others it's a constant battle. I would hope you have the decency to see the difference and try to show support for these people instead of brushing it off as something that's easily overcome. I've seen the results of addiction and know it's not always possible for people to overcome them even when they know it's not best for them. I had a very dear family member who was an alcoholic. He had everything in the world to live for but he couldn't beat the addiction. He literally drank himself to death. He quit his job, stocked his house with alcohol and went on a drinking binge until he went into a coma and died. As hard as we tried we just weren't able to help him overcome his addiction. Your flippant attitude toward addictions and eating disorders is not very supportive. My mother always said "If you don't have anything nice to say - keep your damn mouth shut". Numerous people combat addictions by giving up one day. My father in law was a heavy smoker until 20 years ago, and then he quit (at insistence of his doctor). Saying that it is impossible is disingenious. I don't believe I said it was impossible. I simply said many people are never able to overcome their addictions regardless of how much they try. Unfortunately your simplistic 'just do it' approach doesn't work for everyone but you seem to think it should. Hell - why don't you teach your approach to all those poor professionals that have been struggling for years to find the cure for addictions. i |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
"Ignoramus32087" wrote in message ... In article , Beverly wrote: Your constant remedy for eating disorders has been "to just quit doing it". If only it were that easy. Your attitude shows you know absolutely nothing about the disorders or addictions. Many in the group have had problems with binge eating. Fortunately for many of us we were able to overcome the problem - for others it's a constant battle. I would hope you have the decency to see the difference and try to show support for these people instead of brushing it off as something that's easily overcome. I've seen the results of addiction and know it's not always possible for people to overcome them even when they know it's not best for them. I had a very dear family member who was an alcoholic. He had everything in the world to live for but he couldn't beat the addiction. He literally drank himself to death. He quit his job, stocked his house with alcohol and went on a drinking binge until he went into a coma and died. As hard as we tried we just weren't able to help him overcome his addiction. Your flippant attitude toward addictions and eating disorders is not very supportive. My mother always said "If you don't have anything nice to say - keep your damn mouth shut". Numerous people combat addictions by giving up one day. My father in law was a heavy smoker until 20 years ago, and then he quit (at insistence of his doctor). How many cigarettes did he need daily to stay alive? People with a real binge eating disorder still need to eat food every day. Saying that it is impossible is disingenious. i "Not always possible" were the exact words Beverly used. That phrase is not identical to impossible. Semantics aside, there isn't a lot of clinical data to back up the notion that food is addictive though it appears that the mechanisms that drive binge eating (in binge eating disorder) may be similar to those driving alcohol or drug abuse. (from the Fairburn book) This distinguishes binge eating disorder from bulimia or anorexia, the other two eating disorders that involve binge eating. Not to speak for Beverly, but I believe the point she was trying to make is that your constant "just stop doing it" approach makes you appear like a sanctimonious and arrogant person who offers little help to people looking for support because of the way you "brush off" and belittle the difficulties faced by people. It's amazing the number of different people in this group who have repeatedly told you this and yet you still don't get it. |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
"JMA" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus32087" wrote in message ... In article , Beverly wrote: Your constant remedy for eating disorders has been "to just quit doing it". If only it were that easy. Your attitude shows you know absolutely nothing about the disorders or addictions. Many in the group have had problems with binge eating. Fortunately for many of us we were able to overcome the problem - for others it's a constant battle. I would hope you have the decency to see the difference and try to show support for these people instead of brushing it off as something that's easily overcome. I've seen the results of addiction and know it's not always possible for people to overcome them even when they know it's not best for them. I had a very dear family member who was an alcoholic. He had everything in the world to live for but he couldn't beat the addiction. He literally drank himself to death. He quit his job, stocked his house with alcohol and went on a drinking binge until he went into a coma and died. As hard as we tried we just weren't able to help him overcome his addiction. Your flippant attitude toward addictions and eating disorders is not very supportive. My mother always said "If you don't have anything nice to say - keep your damn mouth shut". Numerous people combat addictions by giving up one day. My father in law was a heavy smoker until 20 years ago, and then he quit (at insistence of his doctor). How many cigarettes did he need daily to stay alive? People with a real binge eating disorder still need to eat food every day. Saying that it is impossible is disingenious. i "Not always possible" were the exact words Beverly used. That phrase is not identical to impossible. Semantics aside, there isn't a lot of clinical data to back up the notion that food is addictive though it appears that the mechanisms that drive binge eating (in binge eating disorder) may be similar to those driving alcohol or drug abuse. (from the Fairburn book) This distinguishes binge eating disorder from bulimia or anorexia, the other two eating disorders that involve binge eating. Not to speak for Beverly, but I believe the point she was trying to make is that your constant "just stop doing it" approach makes you appear like a sanctimonious and arrogant person who offers little help to people looking for support because of the way you "brush off" and belittle the difficulties faced by people. It's amazing the number of different people in this group who have repeatedly told you this and yet you still don't get it. I couldn't have said it any better !! I don't think he'll ever get it. In 'Ig's world' everything is possible if you 'just do it'. We can all lose weight if we quit eating at a specific time in the evening and pack our lunch in a specific size plastic container. I usually ignore most of his posts but it's been a tough day for me. Time for me to go to bed..... |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
Hi Beverly... I tried to email you, but got bounced. Can you email me?
Thanks! perpleglow(at)comcast(dot)net "Beverly" wrote in message ... "JMA" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus32087" wrote in message ... In article , Beverly wrote: Your constant remedy for eating disorders has been "to just quit doing it". If only it were that easy. Your attitude shows you know absolutely nothing about the disorders or addictions. Many in the group have had problems with binge eating. Fortunately for many of us we were able to overcome the problem - for others it's a constant battle. I would hope you have the decency to see the difference and try to show support for these people instead of brushing it off as something that's easily overcome. I've seen the results of addiction and know it's not always possible for people to overcome them even when they know it's not best for them. I had a very dear family member who was an alcoholic. He had everything in the world to live for but he couldn't beat the addiction. He literally drank himself to death. He quit his job, stocked his house with alcohol and went on a drinking binge until he went into a coma and died. As hard as we tried we just weren't able to help him overcome his addiction. Your flippant attitude toward addictions and eating disorders is not very supportive. My mother always said "If you don't have anything nice to say - keep your damn mouth shut". Numerous people combat addictions by giving up one day. My father in law was a heavy smoker until 20 years ago, and then he quit (at insistence of his doctor). How many cigarettes did he need daily to stay alive? People with a real binge eating disorder still need to eat food every day. Saying that it is impossible is disingenious. i "Not always possible" were the exact words Beverly used. That phrase is not identical to impossible. Semantics aside, there isn't a lot of clinical data to back up the notion that food is addictive though it appears that the mechanisms that drive binge eating (in binge eating disorder) may be similar to those driving alcohol or drug abuse. (from the Fairburn book) This distinguishes binge eating disorder from bulimia or anorexia, the other two eating disorders that involve binge eating. Not to speak for Beverly, but I believe the point she was trying to make is that your constant "just stop doing it" approach makes you appear like a sanctimonious and arrogant person who offers little help to people looking for support because of the way you "brush off" and belittle the difficulties faced by people. It's amazing the number of different people in this group who have repeatedly told you this and yet you still don't get it. I couldn't have said it any better !! I don't think he'll ever get it. In 'Ig's world' everything is possible if you 'just do it'. We can all lose weight if we quit eating at a specific time in the evening and pack our lunch in a specific size plastic container. I usually ignore most of his posts but it's been a tough day for me. Time for me to go to bed..... |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
Just emailed you the real one.....
Beverly "Perple Gyrl" wrote in message ... Hi Beverly... I tried to email you, but got bounced. Can you email me? Thanks! perpleglow(at)comcast(dot)net "Beverly" wrote in message ... "JMA" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus32087" wrote in message ... In article , Beverly wrote: Your constant remedy for eating disorders has been "to just quit doing it". If only it were that easy. Your attitude shows you know absolutely nothing about the disorders or addictions. Many in the group have had problems with binge eating. Fortunately for many of us we were able to overcome the problem - for others it's a constant battle. I would hope you have the decency to see the difference and try to show support for these people instead of brushing it off as something that's easily overcome. I've seen the results of addiction and know it's not always possible for people to overcome them even when they know it's not best for them. I had a very dear family member who was an alcoholic. He had everything in the world to live for but he couldn't beat the addiction. He literally drank himself to death. He quit his job, stocked his house with alcohol and went on a drinking binge until he went into a coma and died. As hard as we tried we just weren't able to help him overcome his addiction. Your flippant attitude toward addictions and eating disorders is not very supportive. My mother always said "If you don't have anything nice to say - keep your damn mouth shut". Numerous people combat addictions by giving up one day. My father in law was a heavy smoker until 20 years ago, and then he quit (at insistence of his doctor). How many cigarettes did he need daily to stay alive? People with a real binge eating disorder still need to eat food every day. Saying that it is impossible is disingenious. i "Not always possible" were the exact words Beverly used. That phrase is not identical to impossible. Semantics aside, there isn't a lot of clinical data to back up the notion that food is addictive though it appears that the mechanisms that drive binge eating (in binge eating disorder) may be similar to those driving alcohol or drug abuse. (from the Fairburn book) This distinguishes binge eating disorder from bulimia or anorexia, the other two eating disorders that involve binge eating. Not to speak for Beverly, but I believe the point she was trying to make is that your constant "just stop doing it" approach makes you appear like a sanctimonious and arrogant person who offers little help to people looking for support because of the way you "brush off" and belittle the difficulties faced by people. It's amazing the number of different people in this group who have repeatedly told you this and yet you still don't get it. I couldn't have said it any better !! I don't think he'll ever get it. In 'Ig's world' everything is possible if you 'just do it'. We can all lose weight if we quit eating at a specific time in the evening and pack our lunch in a specific size plastic container. I usually ignore most of his posts but it's been a tough day for me. Time for me to go to bed..... |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
On 5/20/2004 8:50 PM, Ignoramus32087 wrote:
In article , Leslie DiMaggio wrote: Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder no kidding! "Helen" doesn't mind that she hasn't eaten chocolate in 21 years. I do not mind that I have not eaten any sweets in almost a year. Uh, I do recall you mentioning eating chocolate though. Baker's chocolate sounds yucky to me but "Helen" is discussing chocolate, not sweets. --- jmk in NC |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
:..................... Hell - why don't you teach your : approach to all those poor professionals that have been struggling for years : to find the cure for addictions. : : believe me, many try.............................. |
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Binge-eating is seen as eating disorder
On 21 May 2004 11:47:25 GMT, Ignoramus32087
wrote: I agree that some people are not able to give up their addiction. What remains to be seen is, are such people able to quit their addiction in some other way? Is there some solution available to them? I do not know. But, saying that giving up an addiction entirely is not the answer, flies in the face of people for whom it is an answer. Food is a bit different from alcohol or cigarettes, though, because as far as I know giving up food is not an option for most people. janice |
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