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Old May 4th, 2005, 03:39 PM
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LC fails because they cheat.


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Old May 4th, 2005, 03:49 PM
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Cubit wrote:
LC fails because they cheat.


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Bull****.

LC fails for me in terms of weight loss because my metabolism is effed
up for a variety of medical reasons.

It just fails for weight loss less than high carb did, and it succeeds
in allowing me to control my blood sugar.

Susan
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Old May 4th, 2005, 04:00 PM
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Different people have different metabolisms. Weight loss can be
affected by age and sex, for example. Or underlying medical problems
or medications they are taking. Even if you took equivalent, healthy
people, who did the same amount of exercise, you'd find variations in
how fast they can lose weight. However, if you follow Atkins, I
believe you can be successful, it just may take considerably longer for
some than others.

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Old May 4th, 2005, 04:25 PM
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In article ,
"Sherry" wrote:

I keep hearing that LC "doesn't work for everyone" from various sources, and
was just wondering: If "everyone" chose to do it, and "everyone" followed
their chosen LC plan exactly, and "everyone" stuck with it...would some of
these people not get the same results that those of us who have/are getting
good results? If not, what would be the cause of it NOT working for some?

Just curious...


Even on low-carb, to lose weight you have to eat less than what you use.
Low carb works mainly because it naturally controls appetite, so it is
easier to eat less. Some people don't experience this appetite
reduction, so I would guess low-carb wouldn't work for them.

(BTW, I continue to leave a trail of fat everywhere I go - lol. Clothes
that haven't fit me in a very long time I'm starting to wear, and some are
even loose. Still happy and enthusiastic with the plan, getting sick of
meat, adding more vegetables, still hard to get past that 20 gm/day point
though! But since I'm still shrinking, I won't worry too much yet. I've
got a lot to lose, so there's no rush...)


Good for you! I don't think there's anything wrong with staying around
20g. I mean, come on, if it's the end of the day and you've only eaten
18g or whatever, and you're not hungry, why force yourself to eat more?
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Old May 4th, 2005, 04:36 PM
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I keep hearing that LC "doesn't work for everyone" from various sources, and
was just wondering: If "everyone" chose to do it, and "everyone" followed
their chosen LC plan exactly, and "everyone" stuck with it...would some of
these people not get the same results that those of us who have/are getting
good results? If not, what would be the cause of it NOT working for some?

Just curious...

(BTW, I continue to leave a trail of fat everywhere I go - lol. Clothes
that haven't fit me in a very long time I'm starting to wear, and some are
even loose. Still happy and enthusiastic with the plan, getting sick of
meat, adding more vegetables, still hard to get past that 20 gm/day point
though! But since I'm still shrinking, I won't worry too much yet. I've
got a lot to lose, so there's no rush...)

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Sherry
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LC since 4/4/05


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Old May 4th, 2005, 04:54 PM
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Even on low-carb, to lose weight you have to eat less than what you use.
Low carb works mainly because it naturally controls appetite, so it is
easier to eat less. Some people don't experience this appetite
reduction, so I would guess low-carb wouldn't work for them.

I agree with this; I've found it much easier to stay with the low carb diet
than the low fat approach that used to be so generally recommended.
Additionally I've found benefits both in improving my blood chemistry and my
BP, altho' how much of this is the diet and how much the lower weight and
increased exercise I don't know.


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Old May 4th, 2005, 05:05 PM
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"Sherry" wrote in message
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I keep hearing that LC "doesn't work for everyone" from various sources,

and
was just wondering: If "everyone" chose to do it, and "everyone" followed
their chosen LC plan exactly, and "everyone" stuck with it...would some of
these people not get the same results that those of us who have/are

getting
good results? If not, what would be the cause of it NOT working for some?



Some people can be more carb intolerant than others. There are probably
many other differences that figure into it, likes and dislikes, lifestyle,
personality and attitudes, genetic variation, illnesses and medications,
hormonal changes, allergies and other intolerances, (gluten, lactose,
saturated fat, etc.) When something isn't working, and you have to be sure
you know how to tell that and be able to identify success when you see it,
you may need to try different plans to find something that will work better
for you.

Most people want to go on a 'diet,' lose weight, then go back to 'normal,'
which is how they found themselves needing a diet in the first place. What
you need in a plan is something you can live with long term, makes you feel
good, and adjusts to your needs or it will fail in the long-term. That is
why the diet industry is so huge, if one diet were the ultimate answer our
economy would probably collapse.

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Old May 4th, 2005, 05:49 PM
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My assertion fails to define LC or cheating, but as generalities go, I feel
I'm spot on with this.

The body's drive for calories is manipulative. It can skew the intellect of
even someone as sharp as yourself. You simply have a better refined
rationalization for failure.

If you reduce calories below your actual burn rate, you will lose weight.
Being LC should make it easier than it would be otherwise.

A percentage of those who entered German concentration camps were obese. In
photos of those who were saved I have seen no obesity. The 600 calories per
day of the camps is dangerously low, but it helps make the point that anyone
*can* lose weight.


"Susan" wrote in message
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Cubit wrote:
LC fails because they cheat.


"Sherry" wrote in message
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Bull****.

LC fails for me in terms of weight loss because my metabolism is effed
up for a variety of medical reasons.

It just fails for weight loss less than high carb did, and it succeeds
in allowing me to control my blood sugar.

Susan



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Old May 4th, 2005, 06:00 PM
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"Luna" wrote in message
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Even on low-carb, to lose weight you have to eat less than what you use.
Low carb works mainly because it naturally controls appetite, so it is
easier to eat less. Some people don't experience this appetite
reduction, so I would guess low-carb wouldn't work for them.

Good for you! I don't think there's anything wrong with staying around
20g. I mean, come on, if it's the end of the day and you've only eaten
18g or whatever, and you're not hungry, why force yourself to eat more?


That's exactly what I think . Right now I'm eating about twice as much
meat/eggs as dairy, and at least twice as many vegetables as meat...I think
that's a good proportion, but I don't eat enough of any of them, I guess, to
get past that 20 number. I eat 2-3 cups of vegetables every day (usually 2
different kinds), plus a big salad (3 cups is why my salad plate holds)...so
I think I'm getting plenty to eat. To add more carbs I'd probably have to
start adding some fruit or grains or something - but I simply don't want to
yet .

Thanks, Luna!

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Sherry
360/?/195
LC since 4/4/05


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Old May 4th, 2005, 06:15 PM
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Sherry wrote:

... Right now I'm eating about twice as much
meat/eggs as dairy, and at least twice as many vegetables as meat...I

think
that's a good proportion, but I don't eat enough of any of them, I

guess, to
get past that 20 number. I eat 2-3 cups of vegetables every day

(usually 2
different kinds), plus a big salad (3 cups is why my salad plate

holds)...so
I think I'm getting plenty to eat.


To get higher eat different veggies not more of the same.
Take a look at the carb ladder from the 2002 edition of
the Atkins book to see what other veggies to try in what
order.

As long as you're still losing and you still have a lot
to lose you are not required to move on to OWL. But.
"If you fail to plan you plan to fail." Do pay attention
to what your next steps will be at very least. Look
throuogh the groery store at the next few rungs of the
carb ladder and become used to the idea of eating them even
if you don't start doing so yet.

To add more carbs I'd probably have to
start adding some fruit or grains or something


The "something" option or specific fruits. Check out the
carb ladder. It lists what else to try in what order. It
does list berries (the lowest carb type of fruit that
people think of as fruit), tree nuts (peanuts are peas not
nuts), less low carb veggie types, root veggies, different
types of fruit that aren't particularly high carb and so
on. Grains are quite far along the ladder.

Before getting to around 50-60 it's often best to pick
higher carb veggies like roots or fruits like apples.
Not for any deep-seated reason, just that it's easier to
shop for one category at that point. Having jicama,
beets, rutabagas and white turnips on the fridge makes
it easy to pick stuff to get to the 50-60 range. Having
apples, plums, pears, peaches and some berries in the
fridge makes it easy to pick stuff to get to the 50-60
range. Having all of the above in the fridge makes it
easy to go over. Strategy begins at the grocery store.

 




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