Sort of frustrated again...should I make any changes?

This morning my weight was 104.2 kg. My weight when I weighed this past
Friday was 103.4 kg. The week before was 103.8 kg. So this morning I weighed
more than I did two weighings ago.

It's very frustrating. I really wanted to get into "two digits" by the end
of the year!

I'm doing everything I should. My average daily net calories (after
exercise) have been in the 1500-1600 calorie/day range for weeks now. I've
been really GOOD and I want the universe to do it's part and cooperate and
let me lose a decent amount every week.

On the one hand I feel like I am settled into a low-calorie routine I can
follow. On the other hand, after 25 weeks of this I am feeling bored too.

I wonder if I should try something like Weight Watcher's "Core" for a week.

But the problem with that is that I *tried* Core before going on this diet
and didn't lose weight because what I ended up doing was gravitating to all
the higher-calorie, starchy vegies that are allowed, like corn and legumes,
rather than the very low calorie vegies I eat now. Plus there was no
guidance on serving sizes, so I would end up eating much more chicken and
fish and eggs than I do now that I am counting every calorie. So I think I
was really eating a lot of calories on Core.

I guess I just talked myself out of trying Core again. But I feel like I
need to do something to get my metabolism speeded up. I've been completely
ignoring carbs and other values - and just counting calories. But my long
experience with Atkins proved to me that low-calorie dieting is more
effective than low-carbing. After 25 weeks of low-calorie eating I've lost
47.5 lb. After 175 days of Atkins in 2003 I lost 34.1 lb. And that was
starting at a higher initial weight. So low-calorie diet has been about 1.4
times as effective as Atkins for my first 175 days.

But these stalling periods are really mentally exhausting. I wish there was
a way of speeding up my metabolism more!

doug

Hi Mr. Lerner,

Along my Fitday diet travels I found a close correlation between my Fitday
calories and the pounds I lost. Yet, I never took into account exercise.
There was a few months where I was going to the YMCA and doing weight
training on machines, and there was a week that I did a repair job on my
roof that involved lots of "exercise." I never saw a difference in my
numbers as compared to my usual periods of Zero exercise.

With this in mind, may I humbly suggest that you not use a "net" number for
calories. Just count 'em up and watch the math relative to weight.

I suspect that for exercise to shift the balance, it has to be *extreme*
exercise as shown on the awful US TV show "Biggest Loser."


"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...
This morning my weight was 104.2 kg. My weight when I weighed this past
Friday was 103.4 kg. The week before was 103.8 kg. So this morning I
weighed
more than I did two weighings ago.

It's very frustrating. I really wanted to get into "two digits" by the end
of the year!

I'm doing everything I should. My average daily net calories (after
exercise) have been in the 1500-1600 calorie/day range for weeks now. I've
been really GOOD and I want the universe to do it's part and cooperate and
let me lose a decent amount every week.

On the one hand I feel like I am settled into a low-calorie routine I can
follow. On the other hand, after 25 weeks of this I am feeling bored too.

I wonder if I should try something like Weight Watcher's "Core" for a
week.

But the problem with that is that I *tried* Core before going on this diet
and didn't lose weight because what I ended up doing was gravitating to
all
the higher-calorie, starchy vegies that are allowed, like corn and
legumes,
rather than the very low calorie vegies I eat now. Plus there was no
guidance on serving sizes, so I would end up eating much more chicken and
fish and eggs than I do now that I am counting every calorie. So I think I
was really eating a lot of calories on Core.

I guess I just talked myself out of trying Core again. But I feel like I
need to do something to get my metabolism speeded up. I've been completely
ignoring carbs and other values - and just counting calories. But my long
experience with Atkins proved to me that low-calorie dieting is more
effective than low-carbing. After 25 weeks of low-calorie eating I've lost
47.5 lb. After 175 days of Atkins in 2003 I lost 34.1 lb. And that was
starting at a higher initial weight. So low-calorie diet has been about
1.4
times as effective as Atkins for my first 175 days.

But these stalling periods are really mentally exhausting. I wish there
was
a way of speeding up my metabolism more!

doug

Thanks for your note.

Not counting my exercise calories would, for me, remove a HUGE incentive to
do my daily exercise!

Usually this amounts to about 300 calories per day.

Just exercising so as to be "abstractly" healthier is just not enough
incentive for me.

doug



On 11/29/05 9:56 AM, in article
, "Cubit"
wrote:

Hi Mr. Lerner,

Along my Fitday diet travels I found a close correlation between my Fitday
calories and the pounds I lost. Yet, I never took into account exercise.
There was a few months where I was going to the YMCA and doing weight
training on machines, and there was a week that I did a repair job on my
roof that involved lots of "exercise." I never saw a difference in my
numbers as compared to my usual periods of Zero exercise.

With this in mind, may I humbly suggest that you not use a "net" number for
calories. Just count 'em up and watch the math relative to weight.

I suspect that for exercise to shift the balance, it has to be *extreme*
exercise as shown on the awful US TV show "Biggest Loser."


"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...
This morning my weight was 104.2 kg. My weight when I weighed this past
Friday was 103.4 kg. The week before was 103.8 kg. So this morning I
weighed
more than I did two weighings ago.

It's very frustrating. I really wanted to get into "two digits" by the end
of the year!

I'm doing everything I should. My average daily net calories (after
exercise) have been in the 1500-1600 calorie/day range for weeks now. I've
been really GOOD and I want the universe to do it's part and cooperate and
let me lose a decent amount every week.

On the one hand I feel like I am settled into a low-calorie routine I can
follow. On the other hand, after 25 weeks of this I am feeling bored too.

I wonder if I should try something like Weight Watcher's "Core" for a
week.

But the problem with that is that I *tried* Core before going on this diet
and didn't lose weight because what I ended up doing was gravitating to
all
the higher-calorie, starchy vegies that are allowed, like corn and
legumes,
rather than the very low calorie vegies I eat now. Plus there was no
guidance on serving sizes, so I would end up eating much more chicken and
fish and eggs than I do now that I am counting every calorie. So I think I
was really eating a lot of calories on Core.

I guess I just talked myself out of trying Core again. But I feel like I
need to do something to get my metabolism speeded up. I've been completely
ignoring carbs and other values - and just counting calories. But my long
experience with Atkins proved to me that low-calorie dieting is more
effective than low-carbing. After 25 weeks of low-calorie eating I've lost
47.5 lb. After 175 days of Atkins in 2003 I lost 34.1 lb. And that was
starting at a higher initial weight. So low-calorie diet has been about
1.4
times as effective as Atkins for my first 175 days.

But these stalling periods are really mentally exhausting. I wish there
was
a way of speeding up my metabolism more!

doug

"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your note.

Not counting my exercise calories would, for me, remove a HUGE incentive
to
do my daily exercise!

Usually this amounts to about 300 calories per day.

Just exercising so as to be "abstractly" healthier is just not enough
incentive for me.

doug

I don't count calories anymore, strictly points. Last week I decided to
make a point of swapping my activity points each day. In addition, I upped
my activity just a small amount - keeping it at a sustainable level. I had
a bigger loss this week than usual and we're only talking an extra two
points a day. I started getting a little hungrier and treated myself to one
of my favorite deli sandwiches two day ago after jogging and still lost big.

Seriously, if you're getting bored and more tempted, you could try to eat a
point or two more each day or go out for something you don't normally eat.
--
the volleyballchick

"Nunya B." wrote in message
...

"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your note.

Not counting my exercise calories would, for me, remove a HUGE
incentive to
do my daily exercise!

Usually this amounts to about 300 calories per day.

Just exercising so as to be "abstractly" healthier is just not enough
incentive for me.

doug

I don't count calories anymore, strictly points. Last week I decided
to make a point of swapping my activity points each day. In addition,
I upped my activity just a small amount - keeping it at a sustainable
level. I had a bigger loss this week than usual and we're only
talking an extra two points a day. I started getting a little
hungrier and treated myself to one of my favorite deli sandwiches two
day ago after jogging and still lost big.

Seriously, if you're getting bored and more tempted, you could try to
eat a point or two more each day or go out for something you don't
normally eat.
--
the volleyballchick
Doug, Nunya's advice is good. No matter how hard you try, you will have
periods where your weight is just stable. It can be that way for even a
month or two but then something will kick in, and it will go down again.
This happened to my friend who eventually lost 150 pounds. She lost the
100 steadily her first year but the last fifty and especially the final
ten were extremely hard for her to lose. Your body is adjusting to its
weight loss. Continue to have faith.
Audrey

On 11/29/05 10:35 AM, in article , "Nunya
B." wrote:


I don't count calories anymore, strictly points. Last week I decided to
make a point of swapping my activity points each day. In addition, I upped
my activity just a small amount - keeping it at a sustainable level. I had
a bigger loss this week than usual and we're only talking an extra two
points a day. I started getting a little hungrier and treated myself to one
of my favorite deli sandwiches two day ago after jogging and still lost big.

Seriously, if you're getting bored and more tempted, you could try to eat a
point or two more each day or go out for something you don't normally eat.

I'm trying that today. Instead of my usual snacks, I'm having some fruit
crackers (160 cal per pack) and a banana (80 cal).

doug@what an exciting life I live

"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...
I'm trying that today. Instead of my usual snacks, I'm having some fruit
crackers (160 cal per pack) and a banana (80 cal).

What are fruit crackers ??



doug@what an exciting life I live

When I began to stall what worked to get me off it was to vary my intake
like the "Wendy plan". Basically eating more points two days of the week (a
lot more) and sticking to the low end of the range for five days. It worked
great. If you are eating a consistent 1500, try going 1250 for several days
with an 1800 or so day tossed in there a couple of times a week. Bet you
lose big.

--
Lesanne
"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...
This morning my weight was 104.2 kg. My weight when I weighed this past
Friday was 103.4 kg. The week before was 103.8 kg. So this morning I
weighed
more than I did two weighings ago.

It's very frustrating. I really wanted to get into "two digits" by the end
of the year!

I'm doing everything I should. My average daily net calories (after
exercise) have been in the 1500-1600 calorie/day range for weeks now. I've
been really GOOD and I want the universe to do it's part and cooperate and
let me lose a decent amount every week.

On the one hand I feel like I am settled into a low-calorie routine I can
follow. On the other hand, after 25 weeks of this I am feeling bored too.

I wonder if I should try something like Weight Watcher's "Core" for a
week.

But the problem with that is that I *tried* Core before going on this diet
and didn't lose weight because what I ended up doing was gravitating to
all
the higher-calorie, starchy vegies that are allowed, like corn and
legumes,
rather than the very low calorie vegies I eat now. Plus there was no
guidance on serving sizes, so I would end up eating much more chicken and
fish and eggs than I do now that I am counting every calorie. So I think I
was really eating a lot of calories on Core.

I guess I just talked myself out of trying Core again. But I feel like I
need to do something to get my metabolism speeded up. I've been completely
ignoring carbs and other values - and just counting calories. But my long
experience with Atkins proved to me that low-calorie dieting is more
effective than low-carbing. After 25 weeks of low-calorie eating I've lost
47.5 lb. After 175 days of Atkins in 2003 I lost 34.1 lb. And that was
starting at a higher initial weight. So low-calorie diet has been about
1.4
times as effective as Atkins for my first 175 days.

But these stalling periods are really mentally exhausting. I wish there
was
a way of speeding up my metabolism more!

doug

On 11/29/05 12:12 PM, in article
, "Beverly"
wrote:


"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...
I'm trying that today. Instead of my usual snacks, I'm having some fruit
crackers (160 cal per pack) and a banana (80 cal).

What are fruit crackers ??

They are these very very thin crackers with a small amount of raisin/fig
like filling they sell here. There are two packs to a box. Each pack has 3
crackers and each pack is 80 calories each. So that's 160 calories per box.

I already ate them, but I took a picture of the package for you.

http://lerner.net/diet/fruitcrackers.jpg

doug

I'll try some variations. Thanks.

doug



On 11/29/05 12:45 PM, in article ,
"Lesanne" wrote:

When I began to stall what worked to get me off it was to vary my intake
like the "Wendy plan". Basically eating more points two days of the week (a
lot more) and sticking to the low end of the range for five days. It worked
great. If you are eating a consistent 1500, try going 1250 for several days
with an 1800 or so day tossed in there a couple of times a week. Bet you
lose big.