Why you should lose weight

Ignoramus6463 writes:

to me, it sounds more like "why you should not pick up men at bars".

Why restrict that to men?

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Julianne writes:

The whole thing sounds sick to me.... Men with poor self esteem going after
women with poor self esteem and everyone reduces their chances of rejection.

The flip side is that they all get sex, which they wouldn't be getting
otherwise. Apparently, that's important for a lot of people, fat or
thin.

I read things like this and it occurs to me that I am so very lucky to have
my darling BF in my life. Wish he wasn't going to FL for a few days, today.

Don't show him your USENET posts or he'll get a swelled head.

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Ignoramus6463 writes:

But they did not expect to be treated with complete indignity either.

They weren't. These men didn't call them hogs to their face, and when
they did abuse them verbally, the women apparently went along with it,
since they still had sex.

I think that the implicit bar contract is, you meet someone, if you
agree to be ****ed, you will be ****ed with some dignity. not pushed
out of a car with a boot to your ass after a blow job.

I don't go to bars, but I've never had the impression that there is much
dignity in the process. I've been told by experts on this microcosm of
society that the goal is to get drunk enough to settle for what's
available, then go home with someone and engage in sex. Period.

I once met a girl at a bar. It was dark and I was not wearing
eyeglasses. I was fairly drunk. We agreed to meet the next
morning. Turned out then that she was ugly as hell. I invented some
excuse and terminated the date. I did not insult her or call her a fat
pig and so on.

Besides, maybe she felt the same way about you!

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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:48:23 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Personally, I don't see how sex with someone you're not attracted to
could be that worthwhile. If they aren't attracted to these women, and
they just want an orgasm, why not masturbate?

Maybe it's not just about having an orgasm.

Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Full Mu_n writes:

Maybe it's not just about having an orgasm.

It certainly sounds that way from what they say in the article.

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Wow, that article was quite disturbing. Sadly, it is nothing new or too
shocking...

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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A very unhappy story about the attitudes of some men towards fat women:

http://clevescene.com/issues/2003-10...l/1/index.html

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Piffle. Real men only care about the weight because it shortens
lifespan and life quality.

Mxsmanic wrote:

A very unhappy story about the attitudes of some men towards fat women:

http://clevescene.com/issues/2003-10...l/1/index.html

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Julianne writes:

The whole thing sounds sick to me.... Men with poor self esteem going
after
women with poor self esteem and everyone reduces their chances of
rejection.

The flip side is that they all get sex, which they wouldn't be getting
otherwise. Apparently, that's important for a lot of people, fat or
thin.

I read things like this and it occurs to me that I am so very lucky to
have
my darling BF in my life. Wish he wasn't going to FL for a few days,
today.

Don't show him your USENET posts or he'll get a swelled head.

His head was already swollen when I met him There is nothing more sexy
than a very confident man who honestly believes he can have anything he
wants in life and chooses to be with me. Even when I am down, it occurs to
me that he must see something that I don't. And when I am mad at him, it
never occurs to me that any minute I spent with him has been a waste. If it
all ended tomorrow, we would be better people for having had each other
these past few years.

Life is sweet.

j

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"Patricia Heil" wrote in message
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Piffle. Real men only care about the weight because it shortens
lifespan and life quality.

Patricia:

I read a book once called 'Mean Genes'. The basic premise is that as a
species we are wired to survive. That means that both sexes are
pre-programmed as it were to look for certain things in the opposite sex.
Women, based on evolutionary history, need to be protected. Note that wide
shoulders and height are almost universally considered attractive. As an
extension of that, monetary success and power are also attractive. In
today's society we can be protected from an enormous amount of grief with a
gold AmEx card

Men, regardless of conscious desires, are programmed to want women who will
reproduce successfully. Wide hips and a narrow waist are what is found
attractive in almost any society. Younger women reproduce more effectively
and efficiently than older women and thus in most socieities, you will find
that younger women are more attractive. Note that the financial status of
women is seldom of issue to men, even those that would benefit from it,
although men do find successful women attractive. For instance, a well
respected teacher or office manager who makes 35K can be extremely appealing
to a man regardless of her income. Is it because the success of women has
always been judged by their ability to command respect? Even in prehistoric
times, men did not desire women who were not respected.

High powered men in today's society often have the same traits that high
powered men far back in evolutionary history had. Are they leaders and can
you trust them? Do other men respect them? One can not be a leader in
prehistoric times if there is constant uprising in the tribe.

So, if we are pre-programmed to find particular traits desirable, is it not
also reasonable that we are programmed to find certain traits undesirable?
As you so stated, obesity is a leading cause of death. Is there some a
priori knowledge that the obese don't live long and therefore, as a rule,
they are found to be unattractive?

Genetics are not everything and certainly we can rise above them to a degree
Howver, for me at least, there are some men that no matter how much I adore
them, could never be sexually attractive to me. I'd love to spend a week
with Alan Alda and talk about everything under the sun, but I suspect I
would get a headache if ever he made a pass at me.....

j



Mxsmanic wrote:

A very unhappy story about the attitudes of some men towards fat women:

http://clevescene.com/issues/2003-10...l/1/index.html

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Patricia Heil writes:

Piffle. Real men only care about the weight because it shortens
lifespan and life quality.

And because it renders a woman sexually unattractive.

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