Exercise, Not Diet, May be Best Defense Against Heart Disease

(tcomeau) wrote:

That guy who died of a heart attack was a vegan wasn't he? And he was
a long distance runner wasn't he?

If you're thinking of Jom Fixx, I believe he had a family history of heart
disease, hadn't had any tests done and outlived other males in his family
by a good bit.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G

Once upon a time, our fellow tcomeau
rambled on about " Exercise, Not Diet, May be Best Defense
Against Heart Disease."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

And he was a long distance runner wasn't he?

Where there it is!

Running marathons is nutty behavior.

Just thought that you might want to know.

"Gary Woods" wrote in message
...
(tcomeau) wrote:

That guy who died of a heart attack was a vegan wasn't he? And he was
a long distance runner wasn't he?

If you're thinking of Jom Fixx, I believe he had a family history of heart
disease, hadn't had any tests done and outlived other males in his family
by a good bit.

The question then becomes did the strenous excercise bring about his demise
earlier as did that last run cause the last straw that broke the camels
back?
That overweight black man that who died at the hands of police in a beating
incident died of cardiac arrest but if he had not have been beaten that day
he would have lived a little longer. If that runner had not run that day
would he still be alive today?
That's the problem with excercise as running has caused more heart attacks
than you can count but one who excercises regularly and is fit has a
stronger chance to survive a heart attack once it happens.




Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G

Robert wrote:


The author is wrong in that premise as there is no one single "best" defense
against a multi-faceted disease. There are many factors that all need to be
looked at.

Of course but it's one that has some damn good global help.

Tell that to the marathon guy who died of a heart attack at 42 years of age.

Here we go focus on the person that croaks and extrapolate that
across the population. A cheap and silly rebuttal. Cars kill more
people, lets all stop driving. If you take a look at the other
thousands of people that finish those races you can bet there risk
factors are severely lower.

--
Doug Freese
"Caveat Lector"

Once upon a time, our fellow Doug Freese
rambled on about " Exercise, Not Diet, May be Best Defense
Against Heart Disease."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

Cars kill more people, lets all stop driving.

Sounds good to me.

Patricia Heil wrote in message ...
Duh. why are you posting old data just because a newspaper
is having a slow day and decides to publish old news.

Why do you insist on top-posting?

On 12/8/2003 9:52 AM, Diarmid Logan wrote:
Patricia Heil wrote in message ...

Duh. why are you posting old data just because a newspaper
is having a slow day and decides to publish old news.


Why do you insist on top-posting?

Maybe she's in more than one group? Different groups do things differently.

--
jmk in NC

John 'the Man' wrote in message . ..
Once upon a time, our fellow tcomeau
rambled on about " Exercise, Not Diet, May be Best Defense
Against Heart Disease."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

And he was a long distance runner wasn't he?

Where there it is!

Running marathons is nutty behavior.

Just thought that you might want to know.

Keep on trollin', banana-boy...

"Doug Freese" wrote in message
news


Robert wrote:


The author is wrong in that premise as there is no one single "best"
defense
against a multi-faceted disease. There are many factors that all need
to be
looked at.

Of course but it's one that has some damn good global help.

In terms of being good for you, yes excercise is definitately but to use a
single global generalization in terms of individual assesment why
generalize?
A person is interested in his own particular risk assesment based on his
genetics and his own environmental factors.

Tell that to the marathon guy who died of a heart attack at 42 years of
age.

Here we go focus on the person that croaks and extrapolate that
across the population. A cheap and silly rebuttal. Cars kill more
people, lets all stop driving.

I didn't say to stop driving but you are saying that driving cars prevents
accidents when in fact you can only be involved in a car accident while
driving.
I am extrapolating to include all risk factors in order for any one
individual who is really interested in his own risk factors and not just go
on a global own sticking his head in the sand.

If you take a look at the other
thousands of people that finish those races you can bet there risk
factors are severely lower.


--
Doug Freese
"Caveat Lector"

On 12/8/2003 2:20 PM, Marcio Watanabe wrote:
"Robert" wrote:


Tell that to the marathon guy who died of a heart attack at 42 years of age.


This is like giving an example of a smoker who live till age 100 to
show that smoking is not bad for your health. Lame.

In what way are these similar cases? Jim Fixx was 52 when he died in
1984. He had a family history of heart disease. His father had heart
attack at age 35 and died of a heart attack at age 43. Jim Fixx's
lifestyle most likely added years to his life.

In the case of the hypothetical smoker, how long *would he have lived*
if he hadn't smoked?

--
jmk in NC