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Interesting Anti-Sat Fat Approach
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm
Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960730.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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On 2/4/2004 2:33 PM, Once In A Blue M_un wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." To what, peanuts? -- jmk in NC |
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In alt.support.diabetes jmk wrote:
On 2/4/2004 2:33 PM, Once In A Blue M_un wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." To what, peanuts? I guess you missed the reference to olive oil, which preceeded the peanut items. Priscilla |
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On 2/4/2004 2:58 PM, Priscilla H Ballou wrote: In alt.support.diabetes jmk wrote: On 2/4/2004 2:33 PM, Once In A Blue M_un wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." To what, peanuts? I guess you missed the reference to olive oil, which preceeded the peanut items. Sorry, my point was that this research was paid for by the Peanut Institute. -- jmk in NC |
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Interesting Anti-Sat Fat Approach
In alt.support.diabetes jmk wrote:
On 2/4/2004 2:58 PM, Priscilla H Ballou wrote: In alt.support.diabetes jmk wrote: On 2/4/2004 2:33 PM, Once In A Blue M_un wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." To what, peanuts? I guess you missed the reference to olive oil, which preceeded the peanut items. Sorry, my point was that this research was paid for by the Peanut Institute. Ah! A point that should not be overlooked. Priscilla |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:11:31 -0500, jmk wrote
(in message ): On 2/4/2004 2:58 PM, Priscilla H Ballou wrote: In alt.support.diabetes jmk wrote: On 2/4/2004 2:33 PM, Once In A Blue M_un wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." To what, peanuts? I guess you missed the reference to olive oil, which preceeded the peanut items. Sorry, my point was that this research was paid for by the Peanut Institute. I can attest to that... I hiss from their Gallery ;-) -- Steve Who is the humblest person in the universe? According to Chung, God :-) ROTFL! "I'm Humble! Worship Me!" Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003 |
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Interesting Anti-Sat Fat Approach
Steve wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:11:31 -0500, jmk wrote (in message ): On 2/4/2004 2:58 PM, Priscilla H Ballou wrote: In alt.support.diabetes jmk wrote: On 2/4/2004 2:33 PM, Once In A Blue M_un wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." To what, peanuts? I guess you missed the reference to olive oil, which preceeded the peanut items. Sorry, my point was that this research was paid for by the Peanut Institute. I can attest to that... I hiss from their Gallery ;-) You poor guy. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Steve (2) Report Steve to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147 |
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Interesting Anti-Sat Fat Approach
Once In A Blue M_un wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." So they've started quoting Dr Atkins. That's nice. |
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
Once In A Blue M_un wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605074125.htm Dr. Penny Kris-Etherton, distinguished professor of nutrition and leader of the study, says, "Results from this study suggest that Americans may be able to eat the same amount of fat as they are used to without adversely affecting some cardiovascular disease markers as long as they change the type of fats they consume." So they've started quoting Dr Atkins. That's nice. It is doubtful that Dr. Atkin's favorite food item, canadian bacon, has the right type of fats. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Doug (2) Report Doug to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147 |
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Interesting Anti-Sat Fat Approach
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Doug (2) Report Doug to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. I have chosen option number 4. |
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