Needing advice on weight loss. Would really appreciate it.

"Shauhnathan" wrote in message
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You haven't heard of lipodissolve yet? Do you live in a cave?


That was a rather rude response to a legitimate question. I hadn't heard of
it either but did a google and came up with this site. Many of us aren't
interested in lipo of any form

http://www.yourplasticsurgeryguide.c...o-dissolve.htm









On Aug 17, 2:04 pm, "Cubit" wrote:
"lipo-dissolve" What the hell is that?

Your clinic might be run by snake-oil experts.

"Shauhnathan" wrote in message

ups.com...

Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
appreciate it.

Here's what I need advice on:

I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
May.

I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.

I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
snacks too that I can't resist.

Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.

So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
told this is a reasonable goal.

I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
the time that I want.

Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
time to achieve the results I want.

Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
what you think of my proposed next step?

Thanks a bunch!

I'm sorry (Beverly) that you found my response rude, but when I write
about 6 paragraphs explaining my situation and a person writes, "What
the hell is lipodissolve? Your clinic might be run by snake oil
experts," that is much more rude than what I wrote in response.
Lipodissolve is a big thing is my city, maybe it's not passed around
the rest of the world yet, but I assumed it had because I live in TN.
We are usually one of last places to catch onto things.

Yes, the link you posted is what I am talking about. It is a non-
invasive shot that you are given as much as once a week to dissolve
fat underneath the skin. I don't know about anyone else, but in my
experience that fat is the hardest to get to vanish. It seems like a
pretty good option to me as long as the person isn't depending solely
on the shot because obviously she will gain the weight back quickly
after the process is over. If she uses the lipodissolve as a jump-
start the fat loss process, then maintains it by working out properly
and eating properly, I think it's a great idea.


On Aug 18, 8:49 am, "Beverly" wrote:
"Shauhnathan" wrote in message

ups.com...

You haven't heard of lipodissolve yet? Do you live in a cave?

That was a rather rude response to a legitimate question. I hadn't heard of
it either but did a google and came up with this site. Many of us aren't
interested in lipo of any form

http://www.yourplasticsurgeryguide.c...o-dissolve.htm



On Aug 17, 2:04 pm, "Cubit" wrote:
"lipo-dissolve" What the hell is that?

Your clinic might be run by snake-oil experts.

"Shauhnathan" wrote in message

roups.com...

Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
appreciate it.

Here's what I need advice on:

I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
May.

I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.

I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
snacks too that I can't resist.

Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.

So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
told this is a reasonable goal.

I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
the time that I want.

Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
time to achieve the results I want.

Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
what you think of my proposed next step?

Thanks a bunch!

Shauhnathan wrote:

Yes, the link you posted is what I am talking about. It is a non-
invasive shot that you are given as much as once a week to dissolve
fat underneath the skin.

And it's a total scam. Don't waste your time or money, and don't insult
the group by suggesting that we're somehow ass backwards for not knowing
about it. Most of us have seen a scam just like it somewhere along the
way.

Eat less. Exercise more. Repeat forever.

12 pounds in three months, by the way, is perfectly fine. A plateau
after initial good loss, by the way, is perfectly normal. You need to
butch up and continue doing the sensible thing, not give in to some
stupid scam.

Caves have many advantages. Temperature control can be less expensive and
sharing leftovers with bears leaves little cleanup after meals. [/end
sarcasm]

Thanks to a link provided in the thread I found:
"Because different doctors use different ingredients for lipo-dissolve, it
is difficult to give a meaningful prediction of results from past
procedures. There are no significant studies demonstrating where the
medication travels or how it may affect organs, what the proper dosage or
ingredient requirement is, the short term side effects, or long-term
complications."

I had read about a side effect of colagenase that is the dissolving of fat.
However, the lipo-dissolve folks do not seem to be using that, and it
certainly is far from *approval* for such use.

I stopped hoping for treatments like this, when I learned how direct caloric
restriction acts, and found that I was comfortable with an Atkins-like
approach.



"Shauhnathan" wrote in message
ups.com...
You haven't heard of lipodissolve yet? Do you live in a cave?



On Aug 17, 2:04 pm, "Cubit" wrote:
"lipo-dissolve" What the hell is that?

Your clinic might be run by snake-oil experts.

"Shauhnathan" wrote in message

ups.com...

Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
appreciate it.

Here's what I need advice on:

I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
May.

I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.

I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
snacks too that I can't resist.

Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.

So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
told this is a reasonable goal.

I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
the time that I want.

Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
time to achieve the results I want.

Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
what you think of my proposed next step?

Thanks a bunch!

Thanks for the tips. That's why you get several opinions and not just
a few. There is a very well-liked morning talk show guy in Knoxville
that seriously talks about lipodissolve about every day. Then there's
a new weight loss clinic in my hometown that opened up recently that
people my family know are swearing by. They say they feel better, more
energized, and they are losing weight. And hey, it never hurts to ask
what people think about something like this. I, myself, will probably
not be trying it now.

And by the way, was not trying to imply that anyone here was "ass
backwards," I was just saying that I'm surprised it hasn't gotten
around more because we in Tennessee are usually one of the last to
know about things. I was implying that I am "ass backwards."

On Aug 17, 8:21 pm, Shauhnathan wrote:
So it sounds like I should stick to around 1500 and make a daily
effort to stick to that and not go over. Will a person still lose 1 lb
a week while doing weight training 2-3 times a week? I know muscle
weighs more than fat, so I just want to make sure I am striving for a
realistic goal here and not expecting to lose weight when actually I
should be staying the same because of muscle gain.

Also, can any of you give me tips on how to keep from going over 1500
calories a day? I have tried a food log and that wore off. I don't
keep it anymore. Maybe I'll try keeping it on here, so I can get a
spat on the hand when I eat bad stuff or go over my limit. One big
problem is I love to go out to eat and I can never resist the free
appetizers, like the bread, chips and salsa, etc. I know that if I
took my lunch to work everyday or went to subway over going out to
eat, I would be saving many calories, but who wants to sit at work and
eat a packed lunch and not get out of the office for an hour?? It's
really hard to find the motivation to just sit at work for an hour and
eat a crappy meal to save the calories. I also need tips on how I can
go to my mother's house in the evening to pick up my son when she is
cooking a really good meal and not over-eat. I have tried eating
before I go there, so that I'm not hungry when I'm there, but I still
can never resist eating something there because she has so much good
stuff, so then I end up having even more calories.

I will really try my best to eat fewer calories and see how the
results go.

Thanks for the help.

Yes. Muscle does weigh more than fat, but you will still lose weight
on the 1500 cal/day. For one thing, you'll lose fat quickly, but
muscle builds much more slowly. Also, no matter what, you will also
lose a little muscle while on the diet. If you do the 1500 cal, it
shouldn't be significant, but there will be some muscle loss along
with the fat. People who diet have extra proteins in their blood that
comes from the muscle breakdown, is how they know.

The biggest pitfall is that you might not carefully count calories. If
you aren't religious about it, it is very easy to get an extra 200-300
calories too..... just a few cookies that you conveniently forget
about, or fudging on portion sizes, or just guessing about caloric
content, etc. I've been there and done that (lots of times) and
perhaps you have too. NO CHEATING and good luck. Let me know when you
reach your goal. Actually you can pretty much determine that: there
are 3500 cal in 1 pound. At 1500 cal you are undereating by about 500
cal per day (since we estimated probably very accurately that you are
presently burning 2300 cal per day. 3500 divided by 500 = 7 days to
lose one pound. Initially you might lose even little more, but it
would most likely be water and temporary. As your weight decreases, so
does the 500 calories though and for a couple of reasons: 1) Your body
recognizes you are starving yourself (relatively speaking of course)
so it becomes a little more efficient getting extra work out of those
calories you are eating and 2) You burn fewer calories as your weight
decreases. A really big person burns more calories walking for 1 mile
at 4 mph than a thin person. Here the fat person AND the thin person
is YOU. Because of these mathematical changes, you might want to re-
estimate your needed calories after a month or so, especially if you
are losing a little more or less than you expected, but I think it
will work like clockwork for at least 3 months and by then you'll be
down 12 pounds and at least one size clothes smaller..maybe even 2
sizes. Good luck. dkw

On Aug 18, 3:52 am, wrote:
dkw said NO SPLURGING ever. That's my 2 cents anyway.

Mary responds: I didn't express myself properly - what I meant by
splurge....was budgetting calories to allow the occasional spontaneous
little treat - so you have enough "give" to have a little frozen
yoghurt if the whole family is at the beach and decides to go for it,
or have a nibble of cake when its someone's birthday at the office. I
didn't mean going on a total blow out bender.

I've been maintaining about 3 years now, and if I have can't EVER have
a spontaneous and unplanned for treat, I end up feeling deprived,
particularly in social situations. I do keep them small, but because I
make my eating plan run about 100-200 calories lighter than I need for
maintenance daily, I have that little bit of freedom to let me have an
unplanned biscuit when you take me out for a coffee!

M.

That works. dkw

It seems to me that you can't stick to a set calorie intake by
counting calories each day.
My advice is don't bother.
Eat 5 meals per day no more than 3 hours apart. Each meal should have
30g approx of protein (fish, chicken, turkey, egg white, lean beef or
cottage cheese). The rest of your plate should be full of salad or
vegetables and nothing else. You will find it difficult to eat too
many calories this way; it is very healthy and will kick your
metabolism into shape. Every 3 days add a large potato or some pasta
to one of these meals only. Make it the first meal after your
exercise. Once a week have 2 meals with the added carbs again after
exercise. See that you exercise virtually everyday for about 30
minutes but make it hard exercise, which should get out of breath.
Try this for 3 weeks and you will see and feel real results.
I can recommend a great resource to use if you wish.

Good luck

On Aug 18, 1:30 pm, Fred wrote:
It seems to me that you can't stick to a set calorie intake by
counting calories each day.
My advice is don't bother.
Eat 5 meals per day no more than 3 hours apart. Each meal should have
30g approx of protein (fish, chicken, turkey, egg white, lean beef or
cottage cheese). The rest of your plate should be full of salad or
vegetables and nothing else. You will find it difficult to eat too
many calories this way; it is very healthy and will kick your
metabolism into shape. Every 3 days add a large potato or some pasta
to one of these meals only. Make it the first meal after your
exercise. Once a week have 2 meals with the added carbs again after
exercise. See that you exercise virtually everyday for about 30
minutes but make it hard exercise, which should get out of breath.
Try this for 3 weeks and you will see and feel real results.
I can recommend a great resource to use if you wish.

Good luck
Your recommendation is very general and good diets and exercise
routine might include nothing you mention and also the specifics you
mention will definely NOT work for lots of people. If it works for
you, that is the main thing though. There are lots of good ways to
diet and maintain weight and muscle tone and health, I think. dkw

Thank you DKW and Fred for the really good tips! After tonight, I am
definitely going to watch my calories much better. Today was my
birthday, so I had some delicious birthday cake tonight, so I'm sure I
went over my calorie count. The thing is for me, since I am now
working out alot, plus am somewhat conscious of the calories I'm
eating, I am doing much more than I ever have in the past, and it's
showing. People are noticing my weight loss that haven't seen me in a
while, which I am stoked about. If I were to keep doing exactly what I
am doing, I would slowly, slowly lose what I want to lose, I think,
but I definitely want to lose it faster than it's going now. I am
definitely going to be more diligent about the calorie thing.

You guys are awesome to give such good advice. Thanks so much. 3