New AGAIN.... hopefully this will work

Hello I'm Nessa 44 quasi-wife to brian (bri) who is 33 and my fiance (who
has now moved in with me) and his lovely daughter Girl Child (age 11). Both
bri and i need to lose well over 100 pounds each. girl child is a bit chunky
as well and knows it.

Since we JUST moved in recently (beginning of April) and I suffer from ADHD
and depression (although I am not medicated for either) my therapist wants us
to NOT change our horrible terrible eating habits for at least 3 months so we
can aclimate to living together. He's never lived on his own (he's always
been with his folks or his old girlfriend's parents when he was with her)
and I've been pretty much on my own for about 12 years.

Today our water cooler is being delivered so I'm home waiting for it.

anyway I know i'm getting ready and I think we are going to do a MODIFIED
South Beach... it's not atkins are we still welcome here?

I know eventually we will have to UNMODIFY and follow stricktly but the way
we eat now... even just cutting out junk food and sugar will help. A lot.

so... is it ok for those of us who are just gonna try to eat better (i.e.
reduce our sugar and junk) to hang out with you very cool people?

Nessa --

This is not an Atkins newsgroup, it's about low-carb. Also, anyone can post
here, so you should feel welcome. Also be aware that some people won't be
nice.

Why not follow SB as it is written? Or, just cut out sweets, flour, and
starchy foods. Reading the SB book or the Aktins website will provide
guidance was to what foods to avoid, if you need it. Many find they can just
cut the junk and the excessive carbs and lose just fine (don't forget
exercise -- i fyou are 100 lbs overweight, then simple walking everyday can
be very effective). IMO, doing a modified "plan" isn't as good since if
things don't work for you people might get the idea that the plan doesn't
work. If you just roll your own, and it works, you're good to go. If it
doesn't, you can do SB as it is written, or do Atkins as it is written, or
do one of the several other version of LC plans, as they are written. Most
of them have been time tested, so it best to either do them or not. You can
still get the gist of them and roll your own...and just tell people that
you're doing "low carb."

Good luck.

Nessa wrote:
:: Hello I'm Nessa 44 quasi-wife to brian (bri) who is 33 and my
:: fiance (who has now moved in with me) and his lovely daughter Girl
:: Child (age 11). Both bri and i need to lose well over 100 pounds
:: each. girl child is a bit chunky as well and knows it.
::
:: Since we JUST moved in recently (beginning of April) and I suffer
:: from ADHD and depression (although I am not medicated for either) my
:: therapist wants us to NOT change our horrible terrible eating habits
:: for at least 3 months so we can aclimate to living together. He's
:: never lived on his own (he's always been with his folks or his old
:: girlfriend's parents when he was with her) and I've been pretty much
:: on my own for about 12 years.
::
:: Today our water cooler is being delivered so I'm home waiting for it.
::
:: anyway I know i'm getting ready and I think we are going to do a
:: MODIFIED South Beach... it's not atkins are we still welcome here?
::
:: I know eventually we will have to UNMODIFY and follow stricktly but
:: the way we eat now... even just cutting out junk food and sugar will
:: help. A lot.
::
:: so... is it ok for those of us who are just gonna try to eat better
:: (i.e. reduce our sugar and junk) to hang out with you very cool
:: people?

On Tue, 11 May 2004 9:31:23 -0400, Nessa wrote:

anyway I know i'm getting ready and I think we are going to do a MODIFIED
South Beach... it's not atkins are we still welcome here?

Absolutely. Welcome to the group!

Carol

--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or
oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I
recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Of course you're welcome to join.

Be careful about "modifications". These plans have been developed by working
with thousands of patients. They are the way they are for a reason. Most of
us fatties don't do well when we make it up as we go. I do my own low-carb
plan, but it's very strict. Once I hit 1400 calories and 20 carbs(minus
fiber) for a day, I'm done eating.

Happy losing and check in often. This group is great for information, a few
laughs, or if you need a good butt-kicking.

P.S. - Don't forget the exercise.

--
Vic
258/213/180
Since 3/24/04
May Challenge - 20 lbs. So far - 9 lbs.
http://photos.yahoo.com/vicsprogress

"Nessa" wrote in message
ganews.com...
: Hello I'm Nessa 44 quasi-wife to brian (bri) who is 33 and my fiance
(who
: has now moved in with me) and his lovely daughter Girl Child (age 11).
Both
: bri and i need to lose well over 100 pounds each. girl child is a bit
chunky
: as well and knows it.
:
: Since we JUST moved in recently (beginning of April) and I suffer from
ADHD
: and depression (although I am not medicated for either) my therapist wants
us
: to NOT change our horrible terrible eating habits for at least 3 months so
we
: can aclimate to living together. He's never lived on his own (he's always
: been with his folks or his old girlfriend's parents when he was with her)
: and I've been pretty much on my own for about 12 years.
:
: Today our water cooler is being delivered so I'm home waiting for it.
:
: anyway I know i'm getting ready and I think we are going to do a MODIFIED
: South Beach... it's not atkins are we still welcome here?
:
: I know eventually we will have to UNMODIFY and follow stricktly but the
way
: we eat now... even just cutting out junk food and sugar will help. A lot.
:
: so... is it ok for those of us who are just gonna try to eat better (i.e.
: reduce our sugar and junk) to hang out with you very cool people?
:

Well let me tell you we both ingest well over 3.000 cals per day now i'm
sure. modifications will mean more fresh fruits for girl child than called
for and possibly skipping the very strict first stage.

as for exercise... here's the excuse on that..

bri was born with TWO club feet and one twisted leg. He wears a tight size
14 wide shoe. he's had surgury and has pins and rods and staples holding his
right ankle together. he also has a bum knee.

I fell 3 years ago this month and DESTROYED my ankle. I've got a six inch
plate and six sheet metal screws holding my ankle together. I can predict
the weather.

we know we need more exericise but until we get some of this weight off....
almost anything is hard. right now i'm so tired of not being able to tie my
own damn shoes....

bri races cars hopefully he will be motivited to be smaller so he can more
easily climb in the windows....

On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:23:30 -0400, Vic wrote
(in message ):

Of course you're welcome to join.

Be careful about "modifications". These plans have been developed by working
with thousands of patients. They are the way they are for a reason. Most of
us fatties don't do well when we make it up as we go. I do my own low-carb
plan, but it's very strict. Once I hit 1400 calories and 20 carbs(minus
fiber) for a day, I'm done eating.

Happy losing and check in often. This group is great for information, a few
laughs, or if you need a good butt-kicking.

P.S. - Don't forget the exercise.

On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:32:03 -0400, Ignoramus27199 wrote
(in message ):

In article ws.com, Nessa
wrote:
so... is it ok for those of us who are just gonna try to eat better (i.e.
reduce our sugar and junk) to hang out with you very cool people?

Yes, it is okay. Also, if you cut out junk etc, you may find that your
hyperactivity issues could become a little better.



I didn't say i was hyperactive. I said I had ADHD.... BIG HUGE difference.
actually sugar makes me sleepy as do carbs which is one of the reasons I want
to cut them out.

Welcome! Sure, you can eat whatever you want, there are no rules, only
consequences. A "modified" South Beach diet may return some results, or it
may not. But it is your choice.

I hate it when I'm at a barbecue and a friend points to a rich potato salad
and asks "Can you eat that?" As if I'm under house arrest by the diet police
or something. "Sure I can eat it, I just don't want to."

So don't force yourself into anything you're not ready for. If you do,
you'll be telling yourself "I can't eat that" instead of "I don't want to
eat that." It's easier to resist temptation when you're not all that
tempted.

Good luck, and welcome again!

Nessa wrote:

Well let me tell you we both ingest well over 3.000 cals per day now i'm
sure. modifications will mean more fresh fruits for girl child than called
for and possibly skipping the very strict first stage.

I personally find the first stage makes the diet easier. You rapidly
break addicitions, switch your biochemistry over, lose your cravings,
appetite supression kicks in and you start to feel better. You have a
few days of feeling crappy and then it's over with. That's why most
plans start with a strict stage.

That being said, cutting out sugar and junk food is certainly not going
to hurt, even if that's all you do. But if you find it difficult to
stick to, rtaher than quitting, go back and try the strict phase of
whatever plan you're doing.


we know we need more exericise but until we get some of this weight off....
almost anything is hard. right now i'm so tired of not being able to tie my
own damn shoes....

This is *why* you should exercise. I *hated* the idea of doing anything
even vaguely aerobic, cause it's so damned exhausting. About the only
thing I did of that sort when I began was some swimming, and I was
embarassed at how little I could do even that - even with the water
supporting my weight, I got out of breath by the end of a half lap.

But aerobic exercise is not the only type of exercise. There's also
both flexibility type stuff (like yoga or Tai Chi) and strength-training
stuff (free weights or machines).

I started with the generic goal of "just move my body somehow 3 times a
week." After a few months of futzing around with various things, I
started strength-training with my only cardio being 10 minutes warm-up
on the treadmill before starting my main workout and continued swimming
on the off days. The strength training caused me to improve on both the
treadmill and swimming pretty rapidly so they are enjoyable as opposed
to the torture I expected.

More importantly, it's made life easier... I have more energy for
household and yard chores. Things that felt bad before feel OK now,
things that felt OK before feel downright *good* now. It's made a huge
difference. I'm not what anyone would call strong or healthy yet, but I
feel so much better than just a few months ago.

Don't think you can't exercise, instead look at what you *can* do and do
that. It *will* make you feel better and you'll be able to do more as
time goes on. Just go slow, take it easy. It's easy to get
overmotivated, work your butt off, and then be too sore to continue and
get discouraged. My general rule of thumb is I expect to be sore
somewhere between 2 and 24 hours... if it's more than that, I did too
much and cut back.

But move your body *somehow* - it will make you feel better.

--
As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:09:04 -0400, Jim Bard wrote
(in message ):

So don't force yourself into anything you're not ready for. If you do,
you'll be telling yourself "I can't eat that" instead of "I don't want to
eat that." It's easier to resist temptation when you're not all that
tempted.

some of the wisest words i've ever heard

thanks.

Just make sure you read the books whatever you do! I haven't read the SB book,
but reading the Atkin's book for the first time was very good. It's like
getting a great supportive pep talk - give you an important, inspirational spurr
to start.

I hope it all goes well for you and your family.

Cheers,
Ada


Nessa wrote:

Hello I'm Nessa 44 quasi-wife to brian (bri) who is 33 and my fiance (who
has now moved in with me) and his lovely daughter Girl Child (age 11). Both
bri and i need to lose well over 100 pounds each. girl child is a bit chunky
as well and knows it.

Since we JUST moved in recently (beginning of April) and I suffer from ADHD
and depression (although I am not medicated for either) my therapist wants us
to NOT change our horrible terrible eating habits for at least 3 months so we
can aclimate to living together. He's never lived on his own (he's always
been with his folks or his old girlfriend's parents when he was with her)
and I've been pretty much on my own for about 12 years.

Today our water cooler is being delivered so I'm home waiting for it.

anyway I know i'm getting ready and I think we are going to do a MODIFIED
South Beach... it's not atkins are we still welcome here?

I know eventually we will have to UNMODIFY and follow stricktly but the way
we eat now... even just cutting out junk food and sugar will help. A lot.

so... is it ok for those of us who are just gonna try to eat better (i.e.
reduce our sugar and junk) to hang out with you very cool people?