Tacos are making me lose weight, why?

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I'm not on a low-carb diet, but I should be. What I am doing is adding more
protein to my diet than normal to balance out the carbs I do eat. I'm
overweight, I'll leave it at that for my weight, hehe.

My question is: I cook possibly the most decadent tacos on earth IMHO. I fry
the tortillas, I add ground beef flavored with Lowry's Taco mix, and I add a
sour cream dip with french onion mix and ketchup.

Here's the weird part, Whenever I eat this way, especially one or two nights
in a row, I either maintain or lose weight. I know this because people
comment to me on my "diet". :-O

However, the same cannot be said when I make my favorite food, spaghetti and
meatballs. Just smelling it will pack on the pounds for me. I can hear the
fat accumulating. :-P And, I can never stop eating it.

The difference is two-fold I think. When I make tacos, I'm standing over the
stove the whole time either making the beef or frying the tortillas, so I'm
probably burning off as many calories making it as eating it. Plus, it
satiates my appetite, and I don't feel hungry. In addition, it stimulates a
BM, which I think is essential in weightloss. I've always had problems with
a regular BM. I go about once a week, rather than the once a day
recommended. When I eat tacos frequently (or include stuff like baked fish)
I go pretty regular (for me) about once every three days.

Spaghetti makes me want to eat more and more even if I'm not hungry, and I
don't have a regular BM afterward.

That's my theory so far. My question is: Is there an Atkins principle or
low-carb reason for the fact that tacos either help me maintain or encourage
weightloss even though mine are laden with fat, and the fact that spaghetti
does not?

I think it also has to do with the fact that it's tortillas rather than
bread.

Thanks in advance,
Larry

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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message ...
You're full of ****.

No asswipe, it's a serious question. Trolls like you are the reason I rarely
post to any kind of weight loss "support" forum. It's a fair question. If it
doesn't work that way on your body, it's no reason to display your verbal
excrement with me.

You can kindly go **** yourself, "JC". If anyone has any idea why this might
work, I would appreciate the imput. If this is not your experience, there is
no need to be rude! Thanks so kindly for the "welcome".

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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message ...
So you've already had your weekly bm? Otherwise, you're still full of
****.

Not only that, you're a fat idiot. I didn't feel it was necessary to
point that out in the first post, but obviously you need the help.

First of all, I get your "humor", but any input on why this might curb
weight gain on me would have been appreciated.

Secondly, I'm well aware I'm fat. But, I'm not an idiot, and because I'm fat
is no reason for you to forget you manners, Herr Koenig. Because someone is
overweight is no reason to run roughshod over them, I don't give a rat's ass
if it's on a "diet support forum".

I stated in my post, I wasn't on Atkins or low-carbing and that I'm
overweight. I don't like to talk about that part of me precisely because
asswipes like yourself think that gives you license to use me as a public
toilet.

The fact is, a carb rich food like spaghetti makes me gain like crazy. When
I make tacos, it either has a negligible effect on weight gain, or
stimulates my metab, etc., etc. I'd like to know why.

I know you thought you were being "cute". But, I would have appreciated an
honest answer in the first place. I may be fat, but I'm not an idiot because
I don't respond to your attempts at humor, and I'm a human being. Because I
hold excess weight, have since I was a small child, I deserve to be treated
as a human being, rather than your personal toilet. Maybe that doesn't
matter to you, but one day you'll run into a person offline that feels as I
do, and I can promise you, you will know first hand never to treat
overweight people like that again. And, if you're fat yourself, you should
know better!

Larry

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Larry G stated
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| I'm not on a low-carb diet, but I should be. What I am doing is
| adding more protein to my diet than normal to balance out the carbs I
| do eat. I'm overweight, I'll leave it at that for my weight, hehe.

Balance out the carbs? That doesn't make any sense.
|
| My question is: I cook possibly the most decadent tacos on earth
| IMHO. I fry the tortillas, I add ground beef flavored with Lowry's
| Taco mix, and I add a sour cream dip with french onion mix and
| ketchup.
|
| Here's the weird part, Whenever I eat this way, especially one or two
| nights in a row, I either maintain or lose weight. I know this
| because people comment to me on my "diet". :-O
|
| However, the same cannot be said when I make my favorite food,
| spaghetti and meatballs. Just smelling it will pack on the pounds for
| me. I can hear the fat accumulating. :-P And, I can never stop eating
| it.

The spaghetti is much higher in carbs, and they are probably higher glycemic
carbs, than the tacos. The principle of low carb eating is that carbs
increase your hunger, limiting them decreases your hunger so you naturally
eat less. You may also react differently to the spaghetti because it is
made from wheat which affects many people adversely.

|
| The difference is two-fold I think. When I make tacos, I'm standing
| over the stove the whole time either making the beef or frying the
| tortillas, so I'm probably burning off as many calories making it as
| eating it. Plus, it satiates my appetite, and I don't feel hungry. In
| addition, it stimulates a BM, which I think is essential in
| weightloss. I've always had problems with a regular BM. I go about
| once a week, rather than the once a day recommended. When I eat tacos
| frequently (or include stuff like baked fish) I go pretty regular
| (for me) about once every three days.

It's impossible to burn enough calories cooking to make a significant
difference. If you want more regularity you should be eating fiber
containing vegetables--green leafies, green beans, summer squash, eggplant,
mushrooms, celery, peppers, asparagus....
|
| Spaghetti makes me want to eat more and more even if I'm not hungry,
| and I don't have a regular BM afterward.
|
| That's my theory so far. My question is: Is there an Atkins principle
| or low-carb reason for the fact that tacos either help me maintain or
| encourage weightloss even though mine are laden with fat, and the
| fact that spaghetti does not?

Fat keeps hunger at bay, carbs increase hunger.

|
| I think it also has to do with the fact that it's tortillas rather
| than bread.
|
| Thanks in advance,
| Larry

"Larry G" wrote in message
...

Here's the weird part, Whenever I eat this way, especially one or two
nights
in a row, I either maintain or lose weight. I know this because people
comment to me on my "diet". :-O

However, the same cannot be said when I make my favorite food, spaghetti
and
meatballs. Just smelling it will pack on the pounds for me. I can hear the
fat accumulating. :-P And, I can never stop eating it.


One makes you hungry and the other satisfies you, so you are probably eating
more calories with the pasta than the tacos. That is the bottom line for
most low carb diets.
How many grams of carb and fiber are you getting from the amount of tacos
you eat and how many from the pasta? Pasta made from white flour can be
fairly fast digesting, causing fluctuations in blood glucose. Fluctuating
BGs can make you hungry. There may be fewer carbs or more fiber in the
tortillas especially if they are whole grain, plus most of the food in tacos
is not carby whether it's mostly meat, fat, or veggies, which will slow down
the digestion of the carbs in the tortillas, whereas the bulk of the pasta
meal is high in carb.
The low fat stuff in the news for the past many years? It was all a lie,
fat doesn't make you fat, eating too much does, when you do something that
makes you less hungry you are more likely to eat less. Back in the 50s
when you ordered the diet plate at a diner, they brought you meat and
veggies, no bread, pasta, or potatoes and that is pretty much how Atkins
starts out. The rest of the diet helps you find the specific foods that
cause your cravings and weight gain so you know what you can eat and what
you can't once you've lost whatever weight you wanted to.

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

"FOB" wrote in message ...


In ,
Larry G stated
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| I'm not on a low-carb diet, but I should be. What I am doing is
| adding more protein to my diet than normal to balance out the carbs I
| do eat. I'm overweight, I'll leave it at that for my weight, hehe.

Balance out the carbs? That doesn't make any sense.

Well, what I mean is add more protein in with my diet, but not necessarily
eliminating carbs. Let's say I have a burger and fries. Usually I'm the type
of person that would let the burger sit there and eat the fries. When I
started eating the burger and forgoing the fries, suddenly my weight began
to stabilize or even drop. It goes back to same old, same old gaining when I
cut back on the meat again, for example.

The spaghetti is much higher in carbs, and they are probably higher
glycemic
carbs, than the tacos. The principle of low carb eating is that carbs
increase your hunger, limiting them decreases your hunger so you naturally
eat less. You may also react differently to the spaghetti because it is
made from wheat which affects many people adversely.

That's what I was thinking. Thanks for confirming.

It's impossible to burn enough calories cooking to make a significant
difference. If you want more regularity you should be eating fiber
containing vegetables--green leafies, green beans, summer squash,
eggplant,
mushrooms, celery, peppers, asparagus....

Cool. Right now I'm eating more salads. Baby steps, you know.

Larry

"None Given" wrote in message ...
One makes you hungry and the other satisfies you, so you are probably
eating
more calories with the pasta than the tacos. That is the bottom line for
most low carb diets.
How many grams of carb and fiber are you getting from the amount of tacos
you eat and how many from the pasta? Pasta made from white flour can be
fairly fast digesting, causing fluctuations in blood glucose. Fluctuating
BGs can make you hungry. There may be fewer carbs or more fiber in the
tortillas especially if they are whole grain, plus most of the food in
tacos
is not carby whether it's mostly meat, fat, or veggies, which will slow
down
the digestion of the carbs in the tortillas, whereas the bulk of the pasta
meal is high in carb.
The low fat stuff in the news for the past many years? It was all a lie,
fat doesn't make you fat, eating too much does, when you do something that
makes you less hungry you are more likely to eat less. Back in the 50s
when you ordered the diet plate at a diner, they brought you meat and
veggies, no bread, pasta, or potatoes and that is pretty much how Atkins
starts out. The rest of the diet helps you find the specific foods that
cause your cravings and weight gain so you know what you can eat and what
you can't once you've lost whatever weight you wanted to.

Thanks for the info. I hope to try it seriously someday soon. It sounds
promising.

Larry

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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message ...
Why is it that you fat pussies feel like you have to make physical threats
over the internet?

No one threatened you. Your demeanor suggests that you feel it's okay to
insult fat people because they are large. Believe me, being fat is
punishment in itself. There is no need to belittle them by calling them
names. They know they are fat. They no their options are limits. They no
they feel like crap. To put it in terms you can understand, they no they
aren't going to get laid anytime soon. Though there is an alternative
lifestyle called "gaining" that actually relishes in obesity and basically
negates everything I've said.

No one threatened you. Either you feel it's okay to bully fat people or you
don't. And, if you think it's okay to do it while not hiding behind your
computer screen, then I promise you, you'll fool with the wrong person. I
didn't say that person would be me.

I'm in El Paso and easy to find, if you care to show me how fat idiots
should not be treated.

Congratulations! The Lone Star State, good eats there. I would gather it's
especially hard to maintain a proper weight in a state with so many tempting
food choices. You have a lot of discipline. But, if you are or were fat, you
should know better and know that throwing out BS name calling will only
encourage a fat person to EAT more.

Again, no one is threatening you. Maybe if you didn't feel the need to
display your dark sense of humor, you wouldn't feel to need to be defensive.
You led the way how this conversation was going to go first, my friend.

Larry

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"Larry G" wrote in message ...
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message ...
Why is it that you fat pussies feel like you have to make physical
threats over the internet?

No one threatened you. Your demeanor suggests that you feel it's okay to
insult fat people because they are large. Believe me, being fat is
punishment in itself. There is no need to belittle them by calling them
names. They know they are fat. They no their options are limits. They no
they feel like crap. To put it in terms you can understand, they no they
aren't going to get laid anytime soon. Though there is an alternative
lifestyle called "gaining" that actually relishes in obesity and basically
negates everything I've said.

no = know

I'm a bit loopy, I've just come home from a two-mile walk if that matters
any.

Larry

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Larry G wrote:

I'm not on a low-carb diet, but I should be. What I am doing is adding
more protein to my diet than normal to balance out the carbs I do eat.
I'm overweight, I'll leave it at that for my weight, hehe.

What is the basis of this theory about "balancing out"?

What's funny about your overweight condition?

My question is: I cook possibly the most decadent tacos on earth IMHO. I
fry the tortillas, I add ground beef flavored with Lowry's Taco mix, and
I add a sour cream dip with french onion mix and ketchup.

Here's the weird part, Whenever I eat this way, especially one or two
nights in a row, I either maintain or lose weight. I know this because
people comment to me on my "diet". :-O

If you're overweight by any significant amount (I guess you'd say "hehe"
here), there's no way that what you eat two nights in a row is showing as
visible weight loss. In any case, people serious about losing weight
don't measure their results by people's comments, they measure them by
objective means such as tape measures, scales, or clothing sizes.

However, the same cannot be said when I make my favorite food, spaghetti
and meatballs. Just smelling it will pack on the pounds for me. I can
hear the fat accumulating. :-P And, I can never stop eating it.

I don't know why you think this situation is funny.

The difference is two-fold I think. When I make tacos, I'm standing over
the stove the whole time either making the beef or frying the tortillas,
so I'm probably burning off as many calories making it as eating it.

Bull****. CLEARLY you've never given an even cursory glance at either an
activity chart or a calorie chart for those tacos. Which means you don't
want to know, which means you probably know damn well you're not "burning
off as many calories making it as eating it". Or was that another joke?

Plus, it satiates my appetite, and I don't feel hungry. In addition, it
stimulates a BM, which I think is essential in weightloss.

Is this part of the same theory that you need to "balance" carbs with more
protein?

Spaghetti makes me want to eat more and more even if I'm not hungry, and I
don't have a regular BM afterward.

That's my theory so far. My question is: Is there an Atkins principle or
low-carb reason for the fact that tacos either help me maintain or
encourage weightloss even though mine are laden with fat, and the fact
that spaghetti does not?

That's not a theory. You're stringing together a bunch of unsubstantiated
assumptions, and looking for a justification to permit you to sustain your
delusion that you can eat as much as you want of calorie-rich food, and
lose weight.

Not going to happen. If you're serious about losing weight, get a scale
and a food log (www.fitday.com is free), and document what you're ACTUALLY
taking in. If you want to do a low-carb diet, read up on a couple of them
and decide which one you're going to FOLLOW (not pick bits and pieces out
of to suit your convenience/appetite). And quit laughing about it and
start to take your health seriously.

You want "support", show some commitment. Or quit wasting people's time
who are serious about improving their condition.

KeS