Morbid Obesity

definition:
A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a person
the same height.

"PJx" wrote in message
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definition:
A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a person
the same height.


yes, and hopefully no one you care about falls into this category.
But I am not seeing your point (and I am sure you do have one) ;-)

PJx wrote:
:: definition:
:: A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
:: weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a person
:: the same height.

Seems rather arbitrary to me. Is there something magical about 100 lbs or
twice normal bodyweight?

"PJx" wrote in message
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definition:
A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a person
the same height.


And....?

given the variation of the human condition, all medical definitions are
arbitrary, but they attempt to reflect some underlying reality for the
aggregate whole. In this case people who meet the definition of morbid
obesity tend to suffer a variety of ailments both serious and not serious
that people who are simply obese do not tend to suffer.

At the hospital where i work a patient asked to see her record, and was
shocked when she saw that her doctor had written she was morbidly obese, and
struck it out everywhere on the chart.

I myself have seen true, literal, morbid obesity: I was called to that
autopsy room to help get a 700+ pound person off of the emergency room
stretcher she had died on. It took a winch, a piece of plywood and 5 of us
to move her to the morticians stretcher. It was one of the most disturbing
things I have ever dealt with.


"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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PJx wrote:
:: definition:
:: A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
:: weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a person
:: the same height.

Seems rather arbitrary to me. Is there something magical about 100 lbs or
twice normal bodyweight?

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 21:11:38 -0600, PJx wrote:

definition:
A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a person
the same height.

and/or a BMI over 40.

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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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PJx wrote:
:: definition:
:: A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
:: weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a person
:: the same height.

Seems rather arbitrary to me. Is there something magical about 100 lbs or
twice normal bodyweight?


I would say its a fair line to draw. Anyone who is 100 pounds overweight
has a serious problem, whether they want to quibble about just how bad it is
or not.

Bob Peterson wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: PJx wrote:
::::: definition:
::::: A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
::::: weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a
::::: person the same height.
:::
::: Seems rather arbitrary to me. Is there something magical about 100
::: lbs or twice normal bodyweight?
:::
::
:: I would say its a fair line to draw. Anyone who is 100 pounds
:: overweight has a serious problem, whether they want to quibble about
:: just how bad it is or not.

What about someone who is 75, 85, 90, or 95 lbs overweight? Don't they have
a serous problem, too, to quibble about?

bob wrote:
:: given the variation of the human condition, all medical definitions
:: are arbitrary, but they attempt to reflect some underlying reality
:: for the aggregate whole. In this case people who meet the definition
:: of morbid obesity tend to suffer a variety of ailments both serious
:: and not serious that people who are simply obese do not tend to
:: suffer.

Which are those?

::
:: At the hospital where i work a patient asked to see her record, and
:: was shocked when she saw that her doctor had written she was
:: morbidly obese, and struck it out everywhere on the chart.
::
:: I myself have seen true, literal, morbid obesity: I was called to
:: that autopsy room to help get a 700+ pound person off of the
:: emergency room stretcher she had died on. It took a winch, a piece
:: of plywood and 5 of us to move her to the morticians stretcher. It
:: was one of the most disturbing things I have ever dealt with.

A 700+ pound women would be statistically separate. I could see that
classification as "morbid" based simply on the numbers of people who fall
into that category.

::
::
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: PJx wrote:
::::: definition:
::::: A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
::::: weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a
::::: person the same height.
:::
::: Seems rather arbitrary to me. Is there something magical about 100
::: lbs or twice normal bodyweight?

Roger Zoul wrote:

PJx wrote:
:: definition:
:: A diagnosed condition in which the body weight exceeds the normal
:: weight by either 100 pounds or is twice the normal weight of a person
:: the same height.

Seems rather arbitrary to me. Is there something magical about 100 lbs or
twice normal bodyweight?

You have a good point. One hundred extra pounds on me (5'1") is a
lot different from 100 extra pounds on someone who is over 6 feet
tall!
--
Jean B.