Stopped losing weight, getting discouraged

On 3 Jan 2004 17:38:16 -0800, (Wendy J.) wrote:

I have been doing Atkins for 4 weeks and 5 days.

WOW! A whole month! You dropped 15 pounds in a month and now you are
discouraged?

Grow up.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040102.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 02:45:21 GMT, "Steven C \(Doktersteve\)"
wrote:

Are you incorporating exercise into your diet?
It is important to exercise, as it will burn fat faster for you while you
are in ketosis, and you will eventually start to gain muscle. This muscle
gain may not be visible on the outside, but it will be there, and as such,
your resting metabolism increases, and you burn calories faster in your
daily life.
If you want an OBVIOUS example of this, look at body builders who eat 5x the
amount of normal people, but never gain a pound.

You don't need to get a gym membership to exercise, you can just take a 30
minute vigorous walk every day, instead of driving to the grocery store
walk, or get a pilates tape and do 30 minutes of that... there are so many
ways to get exercise that don't require a gym or weights.

Also, count calories, because calories count.

You're just a rambling array of cliches.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040102.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 04:17:19 GMT, "Steven C \(Doktersteve\)"
wrote:

Pilates comes to mind because it will increase flexibility in muscles,

lol

Clueless.

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Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 23:35:01 -0500, "Jenny"
wrote:

Exercise is helpful, but half an hour here and there is not going to make a
huge difference in your weight. If you aren't losing, it isn't because you
aren't exercising, it is because you need to adjust your food intake.

One ray of light in a dark newsgroup.

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Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:00:05 -0600, "Pat" wrote:

I disagree, too. A program of steady exercise is the key for any diet.

Speaking of a dark newsgroup......

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040102.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

1) 17 lbs in 5 weeks is great. Very typical. also typical is for weight
loss to slow after the first two weeks.

2) you need to pay attention to your calories. Use fitday.com to track for
about 2 weeks. keep eating the way you are now. if your weight doesn't
change of that two weeks, you're eating at maintenance. if you have lost,
then you are eating below. if you have gained, you are eating too much.
Assuming you're eating at maintenance, start lowering your calories from
there, trying to create about a 500 kcal/day deficit -- you can do that by
eating some amount less than you were (say 300 kcals per day), and/or you
can find a way to add in some exercise, like jumping rope, jumping jacks,
running in place, walking, etc (say 200 kcals / day in exercise). that
should produce about 1 lb per week of weight loss, which is fine. Is there
no one who can watch the kid for 30 minutes while you go walking? The
benefits of exercise go beyond just burning calories, btw, so even if it
doesn't help much with weight loss (just doing 30 min per day) you still
should do it, imo.

On LC, 15 lbs in 5 weeks is normal, but a lot of that is water weight that
happens quickly at the beginning. After you've loss that, then the fat-loss
comes and that will be determined by your calorie intake. If you're not
losing anymore, then your calorie intake is very likely too high, espeically
on LC where you're eating mainly high-fat foods. Cutting carbs isn't all
that you have to pay attention too. You may need to start watching your fat
& calorie intake, cut the nuts entirely, and stop eating out. Preparing
your own meals is really the best way to know for sure what and how much
you're eating. I suggest you purchase an electronic food scale too, so you
can be sure of how much you're eating (a measuring cup is also useful, but I
assume you have that -- but if you don't, get that too, along with measuring
spoons in 1 Tbs, 1 ts, etc.)

Wendy J. wrote:
:: Hi,
::
:: I have been doing Atkins for 4 weeks and 5 days. I lost 15lbs during
:: induction and I have basically stayed on it the whole time apart from
:: a few nuts here and there and 2 screw ups (over the past 3 weeks I
:: have had General Tso's chicken once, BBQ wings & fries once). After
:: eating both of these I didn't put on any weight. I have also been
:: eating Sugar Free Jello most nights (which isn't bad is it? ... 0
:: carbs, no sugar)
::
:: After the first 2 weeks I have lost 2 lbs, a total of 17lbs in 5
:: weeks. Is this normal? I need to lose another 27 to get from 177 to
:: 150 and I am feeling discouraged. I know I need to exercise. The
:: only exercise I do it running errands and housework. I have a baby
:: and it is too cold to take her walking in the stroller. I really
:: would love a tread mill but we can't afford one. What other exercise
:: can I do indoors?
::
:: I am also not in Ketosis like I was in the first 2 weeks. Should I
:: go back to the strict induction I was on?
::
:: I would appreciate any help because I feel like I am in a rut or
:: maybe I am expecting too much. Thanks!
::
:: Wendy

"Ignoramus18675" wrote in message


Her justification was that it is "too cold". I explained that it was
bull****.

What's bull**** is that you have absolutely no idea where she lives or what
the temperature is. Would you bundle your baby up and go for a walk when it
was -18F (-36F with windchill)? That's the temperature at this moment in
Great Falls, Montana. How do you know she doesn't live there? Or somewhere
even colder?

Wow! I enjoyed reading the posts but now I am really confused about
exercise. I always thought that exercise burns more fat hence you
lose more weight but after reading some of the posts it sounds like
that isn't the case. I am going to buy a couple of exercise tapes
from eBay and see how they go. I do know that exercise in itself
makes me feel better so I am going to start it when my baby is
napping.

The scale was down another lb today and I am looking at it a different
way ... 3 more lbs and I will have lost 20 lbs. That sounds better to
me. Today I am going back to induction and going to note all the
carbs and calories daily. I am not going to cheat (no more nuts,
jello, chinese, etc.) and see what happens. I am just not sure how
many calories I need. How do I find this out?

Oh, and sex obviously isn't working too well at making me lose weight
for the person who mentioned that :-)

My main problem as far as eating is the evening. I am fine during the
day but after dinner around 6pm I start searching the cabinets for
food :-0 I wonder why this is. I feel like I need something to much
on but I don't know what to have. That's why I have been eating
Jello.

Wendy


The 15lbs you lost during induction is not typical. We all lose water weight
at first, which probably accounts for 8-10 lbs of your 15 lbs. This actually
typical of most diets.

The cheats/screw ups you allowed yourself knocked you out of Ketosis. While
ketosis is not necessary to lose weight, the items you listed are all very
high carb, which gets your body back to burning glycogen instead of fat.

You really need to avoid sugar and potato based cheats. There a ton of
recipes for LC snacks floating around. Find some things that appeal to you
and use them when you need them, otherwise, stay strictly low carb based on
where you stand on the Atkins plan.

If you haven't already...read the Atkins book. It will reinforce that any
cheating will throw your weight loss off. It will also tell you what to
expect, which is you do not lose weight going LC any faster than other WOE
over the long run, which is how you should approach this.

Norsk

Wendy J. wrote:
:: Wow! I enjoyed reading the posts but now I am really confused about
:: exercise. I always thought that exercise burns more fat hence you
:: lose more weight but after reading some of the posts it sounds like
:: that isn't the case. I am going to buy a couple of exercise tapes
:: from eBay and see how they go. I do know that exercise in itself
:: makes me feel better so I am going to start it when my baby is
:: napping.
::
:: The scale was down another lb today and I am looking at it a
:: different
:: way ... 3 more lbs and I will have lost 20 lbs. That sounds better
:: to
:: me. Today I am going back to induction and going to note all the
:: carbs and calories daily. I am not going to cheat (no more nuts,
:: jello, chinese, etc.) and see what happens. I am just not sure how
:: many calories I need. How do I find this out?

A good place to start is 10 times bodyweight and work from there. If that
doesn't produce weight loss, then can drop it to 9x, then to 8x, so until
you see results.

::
:: Oh, and sex obviously isn't working too well at making me lose weight
:: for the person who mentioned that :-)
::

Try moving more

:: My main problem as far as eating is the evening. I am fine during
:: the
:: day but after dinner around 6pm I start searching the cabinets for
:: food :-0 I wonder why this is. I feel like I need something to much
:: on but I don't know what to have. That's why I have been eating
:: Jello.

Try knitting. Walking. Watching a tape. Eat the jello.

::
:: Wendy
::
::
::: The 15lbs you lost during induction is not typical. We all lose
::: water weight at first, which probably accounts for 8-10 lbs of your
::: 15 lbs. This actually typical of most diets.
:::
::: The cheats/screw ups you allowed yourself knocked you out of
::: Ketosis. While ketosis is not necessary to lose weight, the items
::: you listed are all very high carb, which gets your body back to
::: burning glycogen instead of fat.
:::
::: You really need to avoid sugar and potato based cheats. There a ton
::: of recipes for LC snacks floating around. Find some things that
::: appeal to you and use them when you need them, otherwise, stay
::: strictly low carb based on where you stand on the Atkins plan.
:::
::: If you haven't already...read the Atkins book. It will reinforce
::: that any cheating will throw your weight loss off. It will also
::: tell you what to expect, which is you do not lose weight going LC
::: any faster than other WOE over the long run, which is how you
::: should approach this.
:::
::: Norsk

Ignoramus18675 wrote:

The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
Ignoramus18675 wrote:
In article , Pat wrote:

ignoramus, you have no idea of what the sidewalks, roads, or
available walking paths are where she lives. It could be sleeting
ice or the snow packed up on the sidewalks so that she'd have to walk
in the road. And yet you start telling her she's lazy?

Her justification was that it is "too cold". I explained that it was
bull****.

"too cold" is subjective. you don't know exactly what's going on in
anyone else's world, and you shouldn't be such an intractable ass all
the time.


She lives in Baltimore, MD.

Right now it is 57 degrees in Baltimore. I am doubtful it often gets
very cold there (below 0f).

http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USMD0018.html

Too cold to walk with kids, haha.

It is about 28F here and I plan on a 1-1.5 hour walk with my toddler
after he is done napping. He will be well dressed and we'll play with
snow.

57 isn't too cold for me, but i'm not her. who knows what her situation
is? i don't, and neither do you.

most people do just need to get off their ass and move, no excuses, but
if it's uncomfortable to do it then it can be kind of discouraging.
there are other things she can do for exercise that don't require
leaving the house. walking is hardly the only option.