Prevention Guide Low-Carb Recipes magazine Oct 03

I apologize for starting a new thread about this because I know
that someone (can't remember who) already mentioned this mag,
but I can't find that post to hang my remarks on.

I feel quite ambivalent about this publication. On the one
hand I am glad to find a publication giving equal air time to
the low-carb way of life, but on the other hand, if this had
been the only information I had come across when I first
started low-carb, I would have failed by now, and have gone
off the plan believing that yet another diet didn't work for
me.

I think the recipes are good for maintenance (and some of
them only occasionally), but I don't think many of them are
much use to someone actually trying to lose weight and kill
their cravings. The dessert recipes use real sugar, real
cookie crumbs, real chocolate & butterscotch chips, and
real flour. Also, there is still the fat-phobia at work
in some of the other recipes, such as the crab cakes on
page 66, which not only calls for real crackers as a bulk
agent, but also reduced-fat mayonnaise. Many of the
entrees are shown with a carb, like rice or noodles, but
these are not calculated into the carb or calorie counts -
not even the Bolognese Sauce for Pasta on page 54. It
clocks in at 9 carbs per serving, but it is shown on a
bed of lovely broad noodles, which are not counted.

It is obviously meant as a vehicle for ads about low-carb
products, and I can live with that, but I find it interesting
that only the South Beach Diet gets a non-ad endorsement (p 13),
and that several of the recipes are attributed to the SBD
plan (5 of the 55 recipes), but none of the others are shown
as taken from any particular plan. (Also, I don't find the
recipes particularly inspiring - anyone with a grip on the
principles of low-carb could go through any regular cookbook
and come up with a list of modified recipes that would equal
these - and in some cases - beat them.)

On the whole, I think this half-assed endorsement of the
low-carb way of life is more damaging than active hostility.

Anyways. I bought it sight unseen at the checkout counter,
but I won't pick up another of their publications. I get
far more useful information here.

April.
Put out the cat.
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like things than things. Well known fact."
Esmerelda Weatherwax (Pratchett 1988)

April Goodwin-Smith wrote:

I apologize for starting a new thread about this because I know
that someone (can't remember who) already mentioned this mag,
but I can't find that post to hang my remarks on.

I feel quite ambivalent about this publication. On the one
hand I am glad to find a publication giving equal air time to
the low-carb way of life, but on the other hand, if this had
been the only information I had come across when I first
started low-carb, I would have failed by now, and have gone
off the plan believing that yet another diet didn't work for
me.

I think the recipes are good for maintenance (and some of
them only occasionally), but I don't think many of them are
much use to someone actually trying to lose weight and kill
their cravings. The dessert recipes use real sugar, real
cookie crumbs, real chocolate & butterscotch chips, and
real flour. Also, there is still the fat-phobia at work
in some of the other recipes, such as the crab cakes on
page 66, which not only calls for real crackers as a bulk
agent, but also reduced-fat mayonnaise. Many of the
entrees are shown with a carb, like rice or noodles, but
these are not calculated into the carb or calorie counts -
not even the Bolognese Sauce for Pasta on page 54. It
clocks in at 9 carbs per serving, but it is shown on a
bed of lovely broad noodles, which are not counted.

It is obviously meant as a vehicle for ads about low-carb
products, and I can live with that, but I find it interesting
that only the South Beach Diet gets a non-ad endorsement (p 13),
and that several of the recipes are attributed to the SBD
plan (5 of the 55 recipes), but none of the others are shown
as taken from any particular plan. (Also, I don't find the
recipes particularly inspiring - anyone with a grip on the
principles of low-carb could go through any regular cookbook
and come up with a list of modified recipes that would equal
these - and in some cases - beat them.)

On the whole, I think this half-assed endorsement of the
low-carb way of life is more damaging than active hostility.

Anyways. I bought it sight unseen at the checkout counter,
but I won't pick up another of their publications. I get
far more useful information here.

My eyebrows shot up as I read this. Is this volume 1, number 1 of
of something that will be making a regular appearance? Do they
refer readers to any information of starting the diet? Do they
suggest that one might substitute for the various high-carb
items? That does sound rather odd to say the least. I'm going to
have to see it with my own eyes.

--
Jean B.

"Jean B." wrote:
April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
snip
I feel quite ambivalent about this publication. snip

My eyebrows shot up as I read this. Is this volume 1, number
1 of of something that will be making a regular appearance?
Do they refer readers to any information of starting the diet?
Do they suggest that one might substitute for the various
high-carb items? That does sound rather odd to say the least.
I'm going to have to see it with my own eyes.


I would say that it is a one-off. Prevention Guide publishes
a regular monthly mag, and then assorted one-off specialty
mags. This one should be in those little mag racks at the
checkout of your grocery store or drug store or similar. It
is approx 8 inches high & 5 inches wide; mostly brown, with
a pie slice on the cover. The pie slice is about as low carb
as halloween candy.

I am in a "my way or the highway" and "death to all blasphemers"
mood, so my opinion is that the information given is misleading
and incomplete.

April.
Put out the cat.
--
"Things that try to look like things often do look more
like things than things. Well known fact."
Esmerelda Weatherwax (Pratchett 1988)

April Goodwin-Smith wrote:

"Jean B." wrote:
April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
snip
I feel quite ambivalent about this publication. snip

My eyebrows shot up as I read this. Is this volume 1, number
1 of of something that will be making a regular appearance?
Do they refer readers to any information of starting the diet?
Do they suggest that one might substitute for the various
high-carb items? That does sound rather odd to say the least.
I'm going to have to see it with my own eyes.


I would say that it is a one-off. Prevention Guide publishes
a regular monthly mag, and then assorted one-off specialty
mags. This one should be in those little mag racks at the
checkout of your grocery store or drug store or similar. It
is approx 8 inches high & 5 inches wide; mostly brown, with
a pie slice on the cover. The pie slice is about as low carb
as halloween candy.

I am in a "my way or the highway" and "death to all blasphemers"
mood, so my opinion is that the information given is misleading
and incomplete.

I'll be sure to look for it. It sounds pretty
suboptimal/misleading.

--
Jean B.

"Jean B." wrote in message ...
April Goodwin-Smith wrote:

"Jean B." wrote:
April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
snip
I feel quite ambivalent about this publication. snip

My eyebrows shot up as I read this. Is this volume 1, number
1 of of something that will be making a regular appearance?
Do they refer readers to any information of starting the diet?
Do they suggest that one might substitute for the various
high-carb items? That does sound rather odd to say the least.
I'm going to have to see it with my own eyes.


I would say that it is a one-off. Prevention Guide publishes
a regular monthly mag, and then assorted one-off specialty
mags. This one should be in those little mag racks at the
checkout of your grocery store or drug store or similar. It
is approx 8 inches high & 5 inches wide; mostly brown, with
a pie slice on the cover. The pie slice is about as low carb
as halloween candy.

I am in a "my way or the highway" and "death to all blasphemers"
mood, so my opinion is that the information given is misleading
and incomplete.

I'll be sure to look for it. It sounds pretty
suboptimal/misleading.

--
Jean B.

I purchased this little magazine, to the tune of $5.00. In my opinion it was
a waste of money. What they consider low carb and what I consider low carb
are not on the same scale. They had some fair information in the front of
the magazine, but I bought it for the recipies, won't be doing that again!

Priscilla

HRHdotp wrote:

I purchased this little magazine, to the tune of $5.00. In my opinion it was
a waste of money. What they consider low carb and what I consider low carb
are not on the same scale. They had some fair information in the front of
the magazine, but I bought it for the recipies, won't be doing that again!

Priscilla

So, you don't think they could be converted into anything useful?
Of course, if we want to do the conversions, we can use any old
cookbook.
--
Jean B.

"April Goodwin-Smith" wrote in message
...
I apologize for starting a new thread about this because I know
that someone (can't remember who) already mentioned this mag,
but I can't find that post to hang my remarks on.

I've only been reading the group for a week or two, and wish
I had seen that thread, and yours before I grabbed my copy today!
A real waste of time and money, from where I sit.


I think the recipes are good for maintenance (and some of
them only occasionally), but I don't think many of them are
much use to someone actually trying to lose weight and kill
their cravings. The dessert recipes use real sugar, real
cookie crumbs, real chocolate & butterscotch chips, and
real flour.

I was very disappointed in the quality of the recipes. I
don't consider 35 grams PER PANCAKE, a viable breakfast
alternative for us. It's about as many carbs as I'm eating a day
right now. Too many of the recipes were way too high in carbs
and I'm really concerned about the ingredients causing me to slip.
I had a really difficult time with induction, upped my carbs after
about a week and a half because of digestive problems ( I have
a history of GI problems, and reactive hypoglycemia). I'm
comfortable and losing at an acceptable rate, but I think I could
very easily slip given half a chance.

anyone with a grip on the
principles of low-carb could go through any regular cookbook
and come up with a list of modified recipes that would equal
these - and in some cases - beat them.)

Can and have ;-) Some of the fish recipes are much higher
in carbs than what we're currently doing to create a very similar
finished dish. I don't even have many of the ingredients they
list in the house anymore, and I'm not going to restock my
pantry with those foods for a couple of recipes.

On the whole, I think this half-assed endorsement of the
low-carb way of life is more damaging than active hostility.

I don't know how damaging it is, but it will create a whole
lot of "low carbers" who think that starting out at 125 a day and
only "trying to reduce your usage of refined products" is how
it's done, and will be badmouthing the LC lifestyle because they're
not achieving the results that some have.

Anyways. I bought it sight unseen at the checkout counter,
but I won't pick up another of their publications. I get
far more useful information here.

Having only picked up Prevention in the past while in a waiting
room somewhere, it's a stark reminder of why I've never been
inclined to subscribe to their magazine. If they research any other
health related issues as poorly as they have this, I don't see any
real benefit to being a regular reader.

Sas

156/142/135 (?)

John

230/208/180

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Sas wrote:

I've only been reading the group for a week or two, and wish
I had seen that thread, and yours before I grabbed my copy today!
A real waste of time and money, from where I sit.

I was very disappointed in the quality of the recipes. I
don't consider 35 grams PER PANCAKE, a viable breakfast
alternative for us. It's about as many carbs as I'm eating a day
right now. Too many of the recipes were way too high in carbs
and I'm really concerned about the ingredients causing me to slip.
I had a really difficult time with induction, upped my carbs after
about a week and a half because of digestive problems ( I have
a history of GI problems, and reactive hypoglycemia). I'm
comfortable and losing at an acceptable rate, but I think I could
very easily slip given half a chance.

Hey! Don't you hate that!!! I see the same thing when I look
over some of the so-called low-carb cookbooks at the bookstore.
No wonder I don't run to the cash register with them! Their
concept of low-carb and mine seem to be quite different!

[little snip] Some of the fish recipes are much higher
in carbs than what we're currently doing to create a very similar
finished dish. I don't even have many of the ingredients they
list in the house anymore, and I'm not going to restock my
pantry with those foods for a couple of recipes.

I am going to have to find this booklet, maybe next week. I just
want to guffaw in person!

I don't know how damaging it is, but it will create a whole
lot of "low carbers" who think that starting out at 125 a day and
only "trying to reduce your usage of refined products" is how
it's done, and will be badmouthing the LC lifestyle because they're
not achieving the results that some have.

I guess some people here have been successful with such an
approach, although I think they have not only switched to whole
grains but gotten rid of some of the junk that this publication
still allows. I always gravitated toward whole grains, though, so
I can attest to the fact that merely using whole grains is most
likely not going to have the result we are looking for.

Having only picked up Prevention in the past while in a waiting
room somewhere, it's a stark reminder of why I've never been
inclined to subscribe to their magazine. If they research any other
health related issues as poorly as they have this, I don't see any
real benefit to being a regular reader.

Heh! And look at the inconsistencies in the South Beach Diet
book!!!! I would have killed myself if I were responsible for
such a production.

Sas

156/142/135 (?)

Your stats are similar to mine. I am now 155/139/120-130. The
last was 125-135, but I can see that 135 was too high....

--
Jean B.

I am going to have to find this booklet, maybe next week. I just
want to guffaw in person!

I found my copy killing time in a very long line at Walmart, if
that helps ;-)

Heh! And look at the inconsistencies in the South Beach Diet
book!!!! I would have killed myself if I were responsible for
such a production.

I don't know very much about SBD. I do know that two
of DH's coworkers have been on it and have had some health
(blood sugar) related issues and haven't been seeing the results
they'd hoped for. He brought home some of the recipes and
I filed them away, a little too high carb for us right now.

Your stats are similar to mine. I am now 155/139/120-130. The
last was 125-135, but I can see that 135 was too high....

That's sort of where I'm at. When I started, I was going to be happy
to reach 135. Now I honestly believe I can make it comfortably into
the 120s ;-) I think I'll change my sig.

Sas

156/142/12_ ??


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Sas wrote:

I am going to have to find this booklet, maybe next week. I just
want to guffaw in person!

I found my copy killing time in a very long line at Walmart, if
that helps ;-)

I saw this little booklet when I was at Barnes & Noble today and
had to thumb through it. It's quite odd to say the least. While
it does use sugar substitutes (at least in some recipes, I didn't
look at all of them), it also uses other very carby ingredients.
And some of the carb counts are artificially low because of small
serving sizes (which don't correspond to the bigger servings
pictures). Most of the recipes are very carby though, sometimes
needlessly so. As others have said, not worth buying.

Heh! And look at the inconsistencies in the South Beach Diet
book!!!! I would have killed myself if I were responsible for
such a production.

I don't know very much about SBD. I do know that two
of DH's coworkers have been on it and have had some health
(blood sugar) related issues and haven't been seeing the results
they'd hoped for. He brought home some of the recipes and
I filed them away, a little too high carb for us right now.

I think it's probably a fine plan for some people, and there are
some elements of it that I like, but it is a bit too lax for me.
If I could eat various carby things without losing control, or
gaining weight, I wouldn't need to look at such a book in the
first place. For me, it is just too easy to segue from one slice
of bread to a sandwich, to more bread (as an example).

Your stats are similar to mine. I am now 155/139/120-130. The
last was 125-135, but I can see that 135 was too high....

That's sort of where I'm at. When I started, I was going to be happy
to reach 135. Now I honestly believe I can make it comfortably into
the 120s ;-) I think I'll change my sig.

Sort-of can't know til one gets there. I have been somewhat
overweight for a while, and it is unrealistic for me to think I
want to weight what I did in my teens. I have no idea exactly
what my ideal weight will be.

--
Jean B.