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  #11  
Old December 7th, 2006, 10:39 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,alt.health,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
Vernon
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Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health


"PeterB" wrote in message
ups.com...

vernon wrote:
"HCN" wrote in message
. ..

"PeterB" wrote in message
ups.com...
WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health

To : All participants and readers of sci.med, misc.health.alternative,
uk.people.health, talk.politics.medicine

....

None of those groups are blogs.

(you claiming otherwise makes you look like an idiot)



Claiming that the statement inferred that the News Groups are / were
Blogs
is outright ignorance.
FYI
Blogging a News Group is posting information on a News Group that one
would
expect and see on a personal (or paid) agenda blog.

DDUUUHHHH


Welcome back -- I thought you might be on vacation. You're right, it's
a description of the activity, not the medium. I guess I could have
used "pharmaflogging," but knowing they hate "pharmablogger" more, I'll
stick with that.

PeterB


Pharmanure?
Pharmanurring?
Pharmiging?
Pharmplopping?


  #12  
Old December 8th, 2006, 02:10 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,alt.health,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
HCN
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Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health


"vernon" stillhere@anhere wrote in message
m...

"HCN" wrote in message
. ..

"PeterB" wrote in message
ups.com...
WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health

To : All participants and readers of sci.med, misc.health.alternative,
uk.people.health, talk.politics.medicine

....

None of those groups are blogs.

(you claiming otherwise makes you look like an idiot)



Claiming that the statement inferred that the News Groups are / were Blogs
is outright ignorance.
FYI
Blogging a News Group is posting information on a News Group that one
would expect and see on a personal (or paid) agenda blog.

DDUUUHHHH


That is one of the most idiotic things I have ever read.

The newsgroups are not blogs. Posting on a newsgroup on Usenet is not
blogging.

"Blog" is derived from the term "Web log", basically maintaining a log book
of thoughts on the Internet, in other words an online diary. Usenet is not
the "web", nor is it the Internet. So using the term "blogging" as a
reference to posting on Usenet is outright stupidity.

This has been mentioned to peteyb, but he is trying to make "all better" by
defining it to what he wants. The world does not work that way. He is just
making himself look like an idiot... and so are you by following along like
a little sheep.


  #13  
Old December 8th, 2006, 03:43 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,alt.health,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
Vernon
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Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health


"HCN" wrote in message
. ..

"vernon" stillhere@anhere wrote in message
m...

"HCN" wrote in message
. ..

"PeterB" wrote in message
ups.com...
WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health

To : All participants and readers of sci.med, misc.health.alternative,
uk.people.health, talk.politics.medicine

....

None of those groups are blogs.

(you claiming otherwise makes you look like an idiot)



Claiming that the statement inferred that the News Groups are / were
Blogs is outright ignorance.
FYI
Blogging a News Group is posting information on a News Group that one
would expect and see on a personal (or paid) agenda blog.

DDUUUHHHH


That is one of the most idiotic things I have ever read.

The newsgroups are not blogs.


Slow aren't you.
I didn't say they were.

Of course you don't know the origination of the term blog and why certain
personal agenda sites are thus called blogs.

DUUHHHHH

Posting on a newsgroup on Usenet is not blogging.


According to YOU


"Blog" is derived from the term "Web log", basically maintaining a log
book of thoughts on the Internet, in other words an online diary. Usenet
is not the "web", nor is it the Internet. So using the term "blogging" as
a reference to posting on Usenet is outright stupidity.


O.K. Your definition states clearly that blogging on a dial up really isn't
blogging because the person really isn't on the WEB.



This has been mentioned to peteyb, but he is trying to make "all better"
by defining it to what he wants. The world does not work that way. He is
just making himself look like an idiot... and so are you by following
along like a little sheep.


Come back when you ACTUALLY know something about language ant the INTERNET.


Start with finding out where Blog really came from.
Find out that the term "web" is NOT an acronym.

Usenet is about as close to the full meaning of "web" as it gets.
Posting ideas and propaganda on the Usenet is one step deeper than simply
creating a personally owned site.

You are by NO MEANS an aficionado of the internet. You have your limited
little teen age jargon within which you have created your own definitions.

What do you call it when a person creates a web log within a news group?

What do you call it when a person or persons create a log of information
within a corporate web, not available to the general public? Of COURSE you
know there are such webs comprised of thousands of users.

Bottom line.

PHARMS create there own blog network within individual and groups of News
Groups. They PRETEND to be mere participants.
Gee, sounds like some of the independent blogs where the owner is not truly
revealed.

WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health.



A TRUTH


  #14  
Old December 8th, 2006, 04:02 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
[email protected]
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Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health

"Bottom line.

PHARMS create there own blog network within individual and groups of
News
Groups. They PRETEND to be mere participants.
Gee, sounds like some of the independent blogs where the owner is not
truly
revealed.

WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health."

We know we know, all we need now is just one example of a newsgroup
posting from these evil "pharmabloggers" to make reality for what to now
is only speculation.

They appear to be as rare as hen's teeth, while multiple "alterblogger"
posts touting one nostrum or another appears it seems daily. Or if not
specific nostrums pitches for "alternative" this and that as the sure
cure/treatment for something as opposed to the evil "other".
  #15  
Old December 8th, 2006, 06:22 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,alt.health,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
HCN
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Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health


"vernon" stillhere@anhere wrote in message
m...

"HCN" wrote in message
. ..

"vernon" stillhere@anhere wrote in message
m...

"HCN" wrote in message
. ..

"PeterB" wrote in message
ups.com...
WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health

To : All participants and readers of sci.med, misc.health.alternative,
uk.people.health, talk.politics.medicine

....

None of those groups are blogs.

(you claiming otherwise makes you look like an idiot)


Claiming that the statement inferred that the News Groups are / were
Blogs is outright ignorance.
FYI
Blogging a News Group is posting information on a News Group that one
would expect and see on a personal (or paid) agenda blog.

DDUUUHHHH


That is one of the most idiotic things I have ever read.

The newsgroups are not blogs.


Slow aren't you.
I didn't say they were.

Of course you don't know the origination of the term blog and why certain
personal agenda sites are thus called blogs.

DUUHHHHH

Posting on a newsgroup on Usenet is not blogging.


According to YOU



Actually, according to everyone but you and peatyb.



"Blog" is derived from the term "Web log", basically maintaining a log
book of thoughts on the Internet, in other words an online diary. Usenet
is not the "web", nor is it the Internet. So using the term "blogging"
as a reference to posting on Usenet is outright stupidity.


O.K. Your definition states clearly that blogging on a dial up really
isn't blogging because the person really isn't on the WEB.



This has been mentioned to peteyb, but he is trying to make "all better"
by defining it to what he wants. The world does not work that way. He
is just making himself look like an idiot... and so are you by following
along like a little sheep.


Come back when you ACTUALLY know something about language ant the
INTERNET.


Start with finding out where Blog really came from.
Find out that the term "web" is NOT an acronym.

Usenet is about as close to the full meaning of "web" as it gets.
Posting ideas and propaganda on the Usenet is one step deeper than simply
creating a personally owned site.

You are by NO MEANS an aficionado of the internet. You have your limited
little teen age jargon within which you have created your own definitions.

What do you call it when a person creates a web log within a news group?

What do you call it when a person or persons create a log of information
within a corporate web, not available to the general public? Of COURSE
you know there are such webs comprised of thousands of users.

Bottom line.

PHARMS create there own blog network within individual and groups of News
Groups. They PRETEND to be mere participants.
Gee, sounds like some of the independent blogs where the owner is not
truly revealed.

WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health.



A TRUTH



What color is the sky on your planet?


  #16  
Old December 8th, 2006, 07:50 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
Vernon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 138
Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health


wrote in message
u.edu...
"Bottom line.

PHARMS create there own blog network within individual and groups of
News
Groups. They PRETEND to be mere participants.
Gee, sounds like some of the independent blogs where the owner is not
truly
revealed.

WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health."

We know we know, all we need now is just one example of a newsgroup
posting from these evil "pharmabloggers" to make reality for what to now
is only speculation.



The pharmers are pure, uneducated sales persons.

Real researchers and lab people know the advantages of both, which includes
when prescription (dangerous) solutions are not required and OTC or
supplements work better with less side effects.

There is not a singe person classed as "pharmblogger" who adds any
information or credibility to the often real advantages of pharmaceuticals
where needed. REAL ADVANTAGES.


  #17  
Old December 8th, 2006, 08:04 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,alt.health,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
Vernon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 138
Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health


"HCN" wrote in message
...

"vernon" stillhere@anhere wrote in message
m...

"HCN" wrote in message
. ..

"vernon" stillhere@anhere wrote in message
m...

"HCN" wrote in message
. ..

"PeterB" wrote in message
ups.com...
WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health

To : All participants and readers of sci.med,
misc.health.alternative,
uk.people.health, talk.politics.medicine

....

None of those groups are blogs.

(you claiming otherwise makes you look like an idiot)


Claiming that the statement inferred that the News Groups are / were
Blogs is outright ignorance.
FYI
Blogging a News Group is posting information on a News Group that one
would expect and see on a personal (or paid) agenda blog.

DDUUUHHHH


That is one of the most idiotic things I have ever read.

The newsgroups are not blogs.


Slow aren't you.
I didn't say they were.

Of course you don't know the origination of the term blog and why certain
personal agenda sites are thus called blogs.

DUUHHHHH

Posting on a newsgroup on Usenet is not blogging.


According to YOU



Actually, according to everyone but you and peatyb.



"Blog" is derived from the term "Web log", basically maintaining a log
book of thoughts on the Internet, in other words an online diary.
Usenet is not the "web", nor is it the Internet. So using the term
"blogging" as a reference to posting on Usenet is outright stupidity.


O.K. Your definition states clearly that blogging on a dial up really
isn't blogging because the person really isn't on the WEB.



This has been mentioned to peteyb, but he is trying to make "all better"
by defining it to what he wants. The world does not work that way. He
is just making himself look like an idiot... and so are you by following
along like a little sheep.


Come back when you ACTUALLY know something about language ant the
INTERNET.


Start with finding out where Blog really came from.
Find out that the term "web" is NOT an acronym.

Usenet is about as close to the full meaning of "web" as it gets.
Posting ideas and propaganda on the Usenet is one step deeper than simply
creating a personally owned site.

You are by NO MEANS an aficionado of the internet. You have your limited
little teen age jargon within which you have created your own
definitions.

What do you call it when a person creates a web log within a news group?

What do you call it when a person or persons create a log of information
within a corporate web, not available to the general public? Of COURSE
you know there are such webs comprised of thousands of users.

Bottom line.

PHARMS create there own blog network within individual and groups of News
Groups. They PRETEND to be mere participants.
Gee, sounds like some of the independent blogs where the owner is not
truly revealed.

WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public
Discourse on Matters of Public Health.



A TRUTH



What color is the sky on your planet?


It's not acoustic ceiling in an isolated room.

You see, I actually have worked with and still do work with many pharm
agencies.
I know the difference between reality and the advertising arm.
I know the training given to the sales people.

Just the other day (last week) I was introduced to a woman who made a great
deal of money in pharm sales working with Doctors. It got to the point that
she learned some more truths. She now works in the office at a
Chiropractor, and selling outside, earning about half and feels much better
about herself. She didn't burn her bridges behind her and constantly gets
calls.


  #18  
Old December 8th, 2006, 09:07 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
[email protected]
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Posts: 99
Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health

We know we know, all we need now is just one example of a newsgroup
posting from these evil "pharmabloggers" to make reality for what to

now
is only speculation.



The pharmers are pure, uneducated sales persons.

Real researchers and lab people know the advantages of both, which
includes
when prescription (dangerous) solutions are not required and OTC or
supplements work better with less side effects.

"There is not a singe person classed as "pharmblogger" who adds any
information or credibility to the often real advantages of
pharmaceuticals where needed. REAL ADVANTAGES."

We know we know, we still seek one example of a newsgroup post where
industry is sending posters in the way the original author suggested to
make further discussion aside from gossip and speculation possible.
..

  #19  
Old December 9th, 2006, 04:47 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
Vernon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 138
Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health


wrote in message
u.edu...
We know we know, all we need now is just one example of a newsgroup
posting from these evil "pharmabloggers" to make reality for what to

now
is only speculation.



The pharmers are pure, uneducated sales persons.

Real researchers and lab people know the advantages of both, which
includes
when prescription (dangerous) solutions are not required and OTC or
supplements work better with less side effects.

"There is not a singe person classed as "pharmblogger" who adds any
information or credibility to the often real advantages of
pharmaceuticals where needed. REAL ADVANTAGES."

We know we know, we still seek one example of a newsgroup post where
industry is sending posters in the way the original author suggested to
make further discussion aside from gossip and speculation possible.
.


If you can't see them by reading, you are hopeless.


  #20  
Old December 9th, 2006, 02:57 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.diet,sci.life-extension,sci.med.nutrition
[email protected]
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Posts: 99
Default WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health

We know we know, we still seek one example of a newsgroup post where
industry is sending posters in the way the original author suggested

to
make further discussion aside from gossip and speculation possible.
.


"If you can't see them by reading, you are hopeless."

We know we know, now we need someone with the "special magic glasses" to
point we the blind to one example in the real world so we can discuss
it. I "see" some "alternative" supporters being challendged on the
science of their claims, are those the "pharmabloggers"?

 




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