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WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health
wrote in message u.edu... We know we know, we still seek one example of a newsgroup post where industry is sending posters in the way the original author suggested to make further discussion aside from gossip and speculation possible. . "If you can't see them by reading, you are hopeless." We know we know, now we need someone with the "special magic glasses" to point we the blind to one example in the real world so we can discuss it. I "see" some "alternative" supporters being challendged on the science of their claims, are those the "pharmabloggers"? Challenged? Challenge on the base that they state that prescription drugs are not dangerous even though officially classified as such by the FDA. Challenge on the basis that all drugs are safe. Challenge on the base that NO supplements are advantageous. Challenge on the base that the average American does not need supplements. Intensely stupid or paid. I can't imagine any one that stupid. Well, yes, many otherwise intelligent sales people start actually believing their own hype. There is a wide difference. Drugs have their place. Drugs to the exclusion of "alternate" methods is a con by those who are supported by the drug or AMA industry. Many, many Doctors disagree with the drug sale pitch as well as most researchers within drug companies. |
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WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health
We know we know, now we need someone with the "special magic glasses"
to point we the blind to one example in the real world so we can discuss it. I "see" some "alternative" supporters being challendged on the science of their claims, are those the "pharmabloggers"? "Challenged? Challenge on the base that they state that prescription drugs are not dangerous even though officially classified as such by the FDA. Challenge on the basis that all drugs are safe. Challenge on the base that NO supplements are advantageous. Challenge on the base that the average American does not need supplements. Intensely stupid or paid. I can't imagine any one that stupid. Well, yes, many otherwise intelligent sales people start actually believing their own hype. There is a wide difference. Drugs have their place. Drugs to the exclusion of "alternate" methods is a con by those who are supported by the drug or AMA industry. Many, many Doctors disagree with the drug sale pitch as well as most researchers within drug companies." We know we know, now show us at least one of those sent by the drug industry as the subject of this thread charges so we can have an example to discuss. I see people challenging the claims of some "alternative" poster's on the basis of scientific validity, are those the "pharmabloggers"? Are they such when they only cast a critical eye on those claims without supporting any drug or marketing practice in the least? |
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WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health
wrote in message u.edu... We know we know, now we need someone with the "special magic glasses" to point we the blind to one example in the real world so we can discuss it. I "see" some "alternative" supporters being challendged on the science of their claims, are those the "pharmabloggers"? "Challenged? Challenge on the base that they state that prescription drugs are not dangerous even though officially classified as such by the FDA. Challenge on the basis that all drugs are safe. Challenge on the base that NO supplements are advantageous. Challenge on the base that the average American does not need supplements. Intensely stupid or paid. I can't imagine any one that stupid. Well, yes, many otherwise intelligent sales people start actually believing their own hype. There is a wide difference. Drugs have their place. Drugs to the exclusion of "alternate" methods is a con by those who are supported by the drug or AMA industry. Many, many Doctors disagree with the drug sale pitch as well as most researchers within drug companies." We know we know, now show us at least one of those sent by the drug industry as the subject of this thread charges so we can have an example to discuss. I see people challenging the claims of some "alternative" poster's on the basis of scientific validity, are those the "pharmabloggers"? Are they such when they only cast a critical eye on those claims without supporting any drug or marketing practice in the least? Intensely stupid or paid. I can't imagine any one that stupid. Well, yes, many otherwise intelligent sales people start actually believing their own hype. TAKE YOUR CHOICE |
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WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health
We know we know, now show us at least one of those sent by the drug
industry as the subject of this thread charges so we can have an example to discuss. I see people challenging the claims of some "alternative" poster's on the basis of scientific validity, are those the "pharmabloggers"? Are they such when they only cast a critical eye on those claims without supporting any drug or marketing practice in the least? "Intensely stupid or paid. I can't imagine any one that stupid. Well, yes, many otherwise intelligent sales people start actually believing their own hype. TAKE YOUR CHOICE" We know we know, just one example please for discussion purposes. Show us how the subjectline works by one example post by an industry sent "pharmablogger" please. So, if someone is critical of the "alternative" industry unsupported claims on scientific grounds then they are stupid or in the pay of someone? |
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WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health
wrote in message u.edu... We know we know, now show us at least one of those sent by the drug industry as the subject of this thread charges so we can have an example to discuss. I see people challenging the claims of some "alternative" poster's on the basis of scientific validity, are those the "pharmabloggers"? Are they such when they only cast a critical eye on those claims without supporting any drug or marketing practice in the least? "Intensely stupid or paid. I can't imagine any one that stupid. Well, yes, many otherwise intelligent sales people start actually believing their own hype. TAKE YOUR CHOICE" We know we know, just one example please for discussion purposes. Show us how the subjectline works by one example post by an industry sent "pharmablogger" please. So, if someone is critical of the "alternative" industry unsupported claims on scientific grounds then they are stupid or in the pay of someone? I said NOTHING about just being critical. If you can't see them (The pharm pushers / anti supplement), you have a BIG problem. Stupid or paid, take your choice. Choice three is stupid and paid. Now, go get an education, especially in how to take care of yourself and THEN go to a doctor when ALL ELSE fails. Doctors are not gods. Drugs are not a panacea. EVERY attempt should be made to find out what YOU need. You were NOT born with a deficiency in ANY marketed drug. You WERE born with a need for certain supplements. Also find what 3 sigma and 6 sigma means and apply it. KNOW that it APPLIES to the TOTAL population. The educated know that the edges are the ones and only ones who require "PRESCRIPTION" drugs. Also the edges need way more of certain non-dangerous supplements. The fact that some waste money on supplements is different than many who take prescription drugs (prescription MEANS CONTROL) There are many schools and books. See you in a couple years. Like I say. It is VERY obvious that you are totally uneducated in the health regime. |
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WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health
We know we know, just one example please for discussion purposes.
Show us how the subjectline works by one example post by an industry sent "pharmablogger" please. So, if someone is critical of the "alternative" industry unsupported claims on scientific grounds then they are stupid or in the pay of someone? "I said NOTHING about just being critical. If you can't see them (The pharm pushers / anti supplement), you have a BIG problem. Stupid or paid, take your choice. Choice three is stupid and paid. Now, go get an education, especially in how to take care of yourself and THEN go to a doctor when ALL ELSE fails. Doctors are not gods. Drugs are not a panacea. EVERY attempt should be made to find out what YOU need. You were NOT born with a deficiency in ANY marketed drug. You WERE born with a need for certain supplements. Also find what 3 sigma and 6 sigma means and apply it. KNOW that it APPLIES to the TOTAL population. The educated know that the edges are the ones and only ones who require "PRESCRIPTION" drugs. Also the edges need way more of certain non-dangerous supplements. The fact that some waste money on supplements is different than many who take prescription drugs (prescription MEANS CONTROL) There are many schools and books. See you in a couple years. Like I say. It is VERY obvious that you are totally uneducated in the health regime." We know we know, for us poor ignorant folk plese do illuminate our darkness with even one example of what the subject of this thread claims so we can be as smart as you and for which you should be amptlly positioned to do with all that superior mental stuff happening. I want to be able to spot those raving evil "pharmabloggers" so I don't get pulled into their propaganda when they post in these newsgroups. It is your moral duty as superior and more informed in these matters to help we ignorant and weak and so vulnerable inferiors to be cued into by example their evil ways of leading us around. |
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WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health
P.S. find out how to use your news group reader. Mark previous posts as not
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Warning, was "WARNING: Industry"
In misc.health.alternative PeterB wrote:
: I don't push products, I merely point out the differences between drugs : and nutrients. What deficiency disease is caused by a lack of "Vitamin B17" in the diet? ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." |
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WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health
Mark Probert wrote: PeterB wrote: WARNING: Industry Is Blogging these NewsGroups to Impact the Public Discourse on Matters of Public Health "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Petey, I hope one day that someone takes pity on you and writes a song of the quality of the Edmund Fitzgerald about your shipwreck. Good rational, scientific response. You must represent pharmaceutical companies. |
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