Now Harvard study backs up Atkins diet

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"Duane Storey" wrote in message
om...
I am so sick of hearing people say "a calorie is a calorie is a
calorie" or that the metabolic advantage of Atkins violates the laws
of thermodynamics.. These people obviously don't understand the laws
of thermodynamics.. THE HUMAN BODY IS NOT A CLOSED SYSTEM. We vary
what goes in, and the body varies what goes out.. Also, our
metabolism is not fixed -- the energy needs vary with both diet,
exercise, and environmental conditions..

The Harvard study showed that people on a low carb diet can eat more
and lose the same, if not more weight.. why do reputable researchers(I
would question that status) feel the need to blindy attack the
results.. I think it's pointing to the obvious -- that the medical
establishment, nutritionalists in general, *do not understand what
happens in the body with respect to dieting, and energy usage.*



i believe you are correct!


This isn't anyone's fault, it just means that we need to re-evaluate
what
we think we know about nutrition and metabolism.

and re-evaluate and re-evaluate........................."the state of
the art of medicine" is ALWAYS changing.
i remember when i first came to ASD, talking to diabetics about going
LOW CARB and just "giving it a chance" (you would have thought i asked
them to sacrifice their first born.........................)
THE STATE OF THE ART OF MEDICINE is always changing, and that's a good
thing!

"Duane Storey" wrote in message
om...
The Harvard study showed that people on a low carb diet can eat more
and lose the same, if not more weight.. why do reputable researchers(I
would question that status) feel the need to blindy attack the
results.. I think it's pointing to the obvious -- that the medical
establishment, nutritionalists in general, *do not understand what
happens in the body with respect to dieting, and energy usage.* This
isn't anyone's fault, it just means that we need to re-evaluate what
we think we know about nutrition and metabolism. I was also taught
that in research, you have to believe results over theory. Otherwise,
you're not doing your job as a researcher.. If there's a discrepency,
we have to figure out why..

I've always been taught, as a researcher, that results have to be
stastically significant before you go haring off and making press releases
about them.

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On 30 Oct 2003 14:06:03 -0800, (Duane Storey)
wrote:

The Harvard study showed that people on a low carb diet can eat more
and lose the same, if not more weight.. why do reputable researchers(I

Did they measure how much of the energy was excreted in the poo? Most
often in such cases, more carbohydrates are taken up by bacteria and
increases stool volume, and much less is absorbed by body. So you will
eat more and still slim more because body absorb far less of the food
an most of it are either metabolized by bacteria giving increased
stool volume (most of stool are dead bacteria or fiber and some
minerals) or undigested food

"ron lorden" wrote in message
om...

Carbs increase serum glucose, resulting in increased insulin
to facilitate glucose's entry into muscle and fat cells which could
result in stored body fat. Obviously, this is a serious
oversimplification of a complex phenomenon, but isn't the notion that
a calorie is a calorie, etc. an equal oversimplification?

How in your oversimplification do you conclude that the more body fat that
is stored equals a reduction in metabolism? So lets suppose that every bit
of food eaten gets converted to bodyfat (with 100% efficiency), so where
exactly do your cells get the energy they need?

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"Duane Storey" wrote in message
om...
I am so sick of hearing people say "a calorie is a calorie is a
calorie" or that the metabolic advantage of Atkins violates the laws
of thermodynamics.. These people obviously don't understand the laws
of thermodynamics.. THE HUMAN BODY IS NOT A CLOSED SYSTEM. We vary
what goes in, and the body varies what goes out.. Also, our
metabolism is not fixed -- the energy needs vary with both diet,
exercise, and environmental conditions..

I must have missed it, but can you show me where metabolism was measured,
and how it increased from pre to post diet conditions of the low-carbers to
indicate that an increase in metabolism took place?