New dorky pic of me!

Archon wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::
::: Thing is, that doesn't prove skinny is healthier. Once can live a
::: long life and not be as healthy as someone who dies earlier.
::
:: Yes, and there are 90 y olds who smoke, but that doesn't mean it's
:: not unhealthy to smoke.

Right....so there can be 90 yo who are just clinging to life and shouldn't
be termed healthy merely because of it...

Archon wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Why is it that healthy is assciated with "thin" and old age? Many
::: of these people will have various health problems and end up just
::: hanging on til they drop dead...just being alive doesn't imply
::: healthy--- well, for many it seems to if you've 90.
::
:: He's not associating thin with healthy, but "I am talking about
:: people
:: who walk, tend their gardens, go shopping, etc." with healthy.

Hmm...well, let's say I'm 35, weight 300 lbs, have T2 diabetes, and walk,
tend gardens, and go shopping....does that make me healthy? Apparently, if
I'm 90 and thin, it does, no matter if I have other health issues.

My point is a person may have managed to live into old age with a variety of
health problems and may yet still be able to function in the manner
described. Many of us might just assume this person is a paragon of health,
but is that true?

If someone said to me that a person is 90 and has no outstanding health
issues and rarely gets ill, then I'd say that person is healthy -- whether
thin or not.

On 3/19/04 6:43 PM, in article , "Roger
Zoul" wrote:

:: I realize it's just anecdotal, and not a scientific survey by any
:: means, but there are lots of very old and healthy men and women in
:: my neighborhood here in Tokyo. I am talking about people who walk,
:: tend their gardens, go shopping, etc., well into their 90s.
::
:: 100% of them are rail thin.
::
:: You *never* see anybody like that in their 90s when who are
:: overweight. Never.

Why is it that healthy is assciated with "thin" and old age? Many of these
people will have various health problems and end up just hanging on til they
drop dead...just being alive doesn't imply healthy--- well, for many it
seems to if you've 90.

Well, you were presumably replying to what I wrote, right? And I said that
these people were active, walking around, tending their gardens, going
shopping by themselves, etc.

I assume they probably have some health problems. Most people accumulate
problems with health as they get old.

But these people are obviously relatively healthy.

The point though is that 100% of them are very thin.

You never ever ever see anybody active and healthy like in their 90s who is
overweight. Absolutely never.

That must mean something.

doug

Doug Lerner wrote:

::
:: You never ever ever see anybody active and healthy like in their 90s
:: who is overweight. Absolutely never.

Absolutely never, huh? There is always, absolutely always, an exception.
Unfortunately, I don't know any 90 yo at all, so I can't prove my claim.

Roger Zoul wrote:
Right....so there can be 90 yo who are just clinging to life

I doubt they'd be hopping around if they are just clinging to life

redefine your definition of the word "chubby". It's awfully easy to
get a distorted idea of what constitutes a healthy body weight by
looking at actresses in TV and movies -- keep in mind that actors look
several inches taller and 10-15 pounds heavier on-camera than they do
in real life.


Yea, but she still looks chubby, always has.

"Archon" wrote in message
...
Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: Piffle. I hear the modeling industry's infectious memes crying out
::: in the wilderness, with a bit of jealousy edging it's voice.
::
:: These women are thinner than Garner (but not as muscular).

Then they are stick women...too thin.

Nope, my girlfriend is about perfect. Just a bit more muscle (like
myself).

You're also a stick figure. HTH

JC Der Koenig wrote:
myself).

You're also a stick figure. HTH

My reference for men's "normal" (perfect) stoutness is Spike from Buffy
the Vampire Slayer.

"Archon" wrote in message
...
JC Der Koenig wrote:
myself).

You're also a stick figure. HTH

My reference for men's "normal" (perfect) stoutness is Spike from Buffy
the Vampire Slayer.

You obviously watch too much TV.

Archon wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Right....so there can be 90 yo who are just clinging to life
::
:: I doubt they'd be hopping around if they are just clinging to life

Well, not the ones doug mentioned...but there must be some who are...