RAFL - Fred - Feb 18th

Thanks. I am working on it.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:48:53 +1300, Erin Marsh
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:44:02 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Gain: 1.2
Current: 158.8

Sorry about the gain Fred, but a huge congrats on being at lifetime
for 6 months. That's a huge achievement :-)

I am not worried so much about complacency as active personal
sabotage!

How's the tongue? Or is that "tug?"

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:17:47 -0000, "krys"
wrote:

just to interrupt here, and say well done. 1/2 a year is an awesome thing.
Life would be wrong if there weren't ups and downs in there, but you're
doing what we're supposed to do - to Maintain - and that's a pretty good
example for us all

just don't go getting all complacent on us now...........*grin*

I have found myself drawn to chocolate lately myself. I think it is because
there's lots of it around these days leftover from Valentines day. We don't
normally have chocolate in our house but students of my DH keep giving him
the stuff. We also have boxes of it around for our students. Its very hard
to resist at times.

I did good tonight. I was having the munchies (still am) but decided that a
cup of decaff tea - Cinnamon might help curb the cravings. It's 10pm and so
far so good. One hour till bedtime. I hope I can hold out. I normally don't
have anything to eat this late so maybe I'm safe.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
That's interesting. As I think about it, I guess that I WAS a big
salty snack person, including the chips and cheeses as well as a sweet
snacker. But I am not really missing the salty ones now. There has
been a bag of pretzels both downstairs and in a drawer at work and I
have not had any for 2-3 weeks. Maybe I have licked that one. Now
the sweets are driving me more and maybe that is carbo addiction??

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:57:42 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:09:18 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Maybe but maybe not. I don't think so but my numbers are somewhat
warped by the shorts-Tshirt factor. I don't recall exactly when I
changed wardrobe but think I can figure it out. I now subtract the
clothing difference from my WI to get a shorts-Tshirt value (g)

Since the excel sheet is behind here lurking I will see if I've had
two up weeks in a row..... actually, there have been a few 3 week in
a
row ups. So I guess I will not sweat this. But I do need to get
control on the snacking. But I do need to get control on the
snacking. But I do need to get control on the snacking......

This is where I fall down on the job too. My basic menu runs around
20-22
points per day and find that my last 6-8 points are "wasted" on junk
food
in
the evening. I need to find better quality food for points at night. I
think
once you have a snacking habit, it is hard to break.

Well, not all my snacking is junk food - I do a lot of dried fruit.
In the old days it would have been cheese, cheese and chocolate and
potato chips along with the fruit. so this is better but I need to
still get control. I don't know how Skinny Cows rate for nutrition.
(G)

For some reason I gravitate towards the salty stuff at night for snacks.
Not
a good thing. We had bought pretzals for my daughters birthday party and
I
had been eating them one handful at a time. I threw the bag away
yesterday
as it was the only way to stop me from finishing the bag.

Skinny cows are my dessert most nights. The snacking goes on around 8-9pm
mostly because I have points left over. I've started to stop worrying
about
finishing up my points. I don't need any extra stress in my life right
now.


And now that I made a doc's appt for next week, I will have to fast
for 12 hours (checking total blood cholesterol levels) in the
evening
- that should help (G)

Thanks. Yes, I hope to keep the lifetime books coming and always
under goal (fingers crossed)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:43:36 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

Good thing your leader was there ready with some perspective.
You've
been steadily maintaining that clothes cushion since meeting your
personal goal. Have you even once gotten to 160?

Congrats Fred on filling your 1st of many lifetime books.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:44:02 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, no messing around as I'm too depressed to fool around.
Actually, I'm not depressed and my leader noted that my Lifetime
book's 26 rows (weeks) were filled and that in the main, I've
stayed
pretty much constant over those 26 weeks and that's damn near half
a
year. It is HALF A YEAR. And it is really more than half a year
since there were a number of missed weeks in there. And today
I've
also filled up my first Lifetime booklet.

So without much further ado (Lesanne is now gnawing the bones of
that
fried fish):

Gain: 1.2
Current: 158.8

Fred
219.2/158.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

You know, in general, I've been doing okay with chocolate, too. There
is plenty around and the Miss Meringues have been mainly the choice.
The other chocolates in the form of bars, and filled bars, and frangos
and others have not been grabbing my attention - maybe I think they
are too point unfriendly, it is lots of dried fruit and I mean lots.
Even nuts are around and being avoided without that much difficulty.
It was 8:30 here and I was thinking of going to bed to avoid the
munchies but maybe this afternoon's cave=in satisfied the urges (sigh)

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:03:22 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

I have found myself drawn to chocolate lately myself. I think it is because
there's lots of it around these days leftover from Valentines day. We don't
normally have chocolate in our house but students of my DH keep giving him
the stuff. We also have boxes of it around for our students. Its very hard
to resist at times.

I did good tonight. I was having the munchies (still am) but decided that a
cup of decaff tea - Cinnamon might help curb the cravings. It's 10pm and so
far so good. One hour till bedtime. I hope I can hold out. I normally don't
have anything to eat this late so maybe I'm safe.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
That's interesting. As I think about it, I guess that I WAS a big
salty snack person, including the chips and cheeses as well as a sweet
snacker. But I am not really missing the salty ones now. There has
been a bag of pretzels both downstairs and in a drawer at work and I
have not had any for 2-3 weeks. Maybe I have licked that one. Now
the sweets are driving me more and maybe that is carbo addiction??

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:57:42 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:09:18 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Maybe but maybe not. I don't think so but my numbers are somewhat
warped by the shorts-Tshirt factor. I don't recall exactly when I
changed wardrobe but think I can figure it out. I now subtract the
clothing difference from my WI to get a shorts-Tshirt value (g)

Since the excel sheet is behind here lurking I will see if I've had
two up weeks in a row..... actually, there have been a few 3 week in
a
row ups. So I guess I will not sweat this. But I do need to get
control on the snacking. But I do need to get control on the
snacking. But I do need to get control on the snacking......

This is where I fall down on the job too. My basic menu runs around
20-22
points per day and find that my last 6-8 points are "wasted" on junk
food
in
the evening. I need to find better quality food for points at night. I
think
once you have a snacking habit, it is hard to break.

Well, not all my snacking is junk food - I do a lot of dried fruit.
In the old days it would have been cheese, cheese and chocolate and
potato chips along with the fruit. so this is better but I need to
still get control. I don't know how Skinny Cows rate for nutrition.
(G)

For some reason I gravitate towards the salty stuff at night for snacks.
Not
a good thing. We had bought pretzals for my daughters birthday party and
I
had been eating them one handful at a time. I threw the bag away
yesterday
as it was the only way to stop me from finishing the bag.

Skinny cows are my dessert most nights. The snacking goes on around 8-9pm
mostly because I have points left over. I've started to stop worrying
about
finishing up my points. I don't need any extra stress in my life right
now.


And now that I made a doc's appt for next week, I will have to fast
for 12 hours (checking total blood cholesterol levels) in the
evening
- that should help (G)

Thanks. Yes, I hope to keep the lifetime books coming and always
under goal (fingers crossed)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:43:36 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

Good thing your leader was there ready with some perspective.
You've
been steadily maintaining that clothes cushion since meeting your
personal goal. Have you even once gotten to 160?

Congrats Fred on filling your 1st of many lifetime books.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:44:02 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, no messing around as I'm too depressed to fool around.
Actually, I'm not depressed and my leader noted that my Lifetime
book's 26 rows (weeks) were filled and that in the main, I've
stayed
pretty much constant over those 26 weeks and that's damn near half
a
year. It is HALF A YEAR. And it is really more than half a year
since there were a number of missed weeks in there. And today
I've
also filled up my first Lifetime booklet.

So without much further ado (Lesanne is now gnawing the bones of
that
fried fish):

Gain: 1.2
Current: 158.8

Fred
219.2/158.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

The tongue is back to being a tongue, ta for asking. Albeit with a metal
bar through it! *grin* I've had the next smaller size put in, and am back
to eating solid food - tad tricky sometimes, but I'm getting there. My
speech is no longer affected - and now, if I don't tell you I've had it
done, you can't tell, it's that discreet It's still a bit ouchy, but
it's getting better all the time......

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001
....definitely making progress...

"Fred" wrote in message
...
I am not worried so much about complacency as active personal
sabotage!

How's the tongue? Or is that "tug?"

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:17:47 -0000, "krys"
wrote:

just to interrupt here, and say well done. 1/2 a year is an awesome
thing.
Life would be wrong if there weren't ups and downs in there, but you're
doing what we're supposed to do - to Maintain - and that's a pretty good
example for us all

just don't go getting all complacent on us now...........*grin*

I find that getting rid of the tempations works best. Out of sight-out of
mind. If they are in the house then they keep calling my name. Like the Soy
crisps got me as I walked to the bathroom last night. 2point bag. Scale is
down another half pound this morning so something is working right this
week.

"Fred" wrote in message
news
You know, in general, I've been doing okay with chocolate, too. There
is plenty around and the Miss Meringues have been mainly the choice.
The other chocolates in the form of bars, and filled bars, and frangos
and others have not been grabbing my attention - maybe I think they
are too point unfriendly, it is lots of dried fruit and I mean lots.
Even nuts are around and being avoided without that much difficulty.
It was 8:30 here and I was thinking of going to bed to avoid the
munchies but maybe this afternoon's cave=in satisfied the urges (sigh)

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:03:22 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

I have found myself drawn to chocolate lately myself. I think it is
because
there's lots of it around these days leftover from Valentines day. We
don't
normally have chocolate in our house but students of my DH keep giving
him
the stuff. We also have boxes of it around for our students. Its very
hard
to resist at times.

I did good tonight. I was having the munchies (still am) but decided that
a
cup of decaff tea - Cinnamon might help curb the cravings. It's 10pm and
so
far so good. One hour till bedtime. I hope I can hold out. I normally
don't
have anything to eat this late so maybe I'm safe.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
That's interesting. As I think about it, I guess that I WAS a big
salty snack person, including the chips and cheeses as well as a sweet
snacker. But I am not really missing the salty ones now. There has
been a bag of pretzels both downstairs and in a drawer at work and I
have not had any for 2-3 weeks. Maybe I have licked that one. Now
the sweets are driving me more and maybe that is carbo addiction??

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:57:42 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:09:18 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Maybe but maybe not. I don't think so but my numbers are
somewhat
warped by the shorts-Tshirt factor. I don't recall exactly when
I
changed wardrobe but think I can figure it out. I now subtract
the
clothing difference from my WI to get a shorts-Tshirt value (g)

Since the excel sheet is behind here lurking I will see if I've
had
two up weeks in a row..... actually, there have been a few 3 week
in
a
row ups. So I guess I will not sweat this. But I do need to get
control on the snacking. But I do need to get control on the
snacking. But I do need to get control on the snacking......

This is where I fall down on the job too. My basic menu runs around
20-22
points per day and find that my last 6-8 points are "wasted" on
junk
food
in
the evening. I need to find better quality food for points at
night. I
think
once you have a snacking habit, it is hard to break.

Well, not all my snacking is junk food - I do a lot of dried fruit.
In the old days it would have been cheese, cheese and chocolate and
potato chips along with the fruit. so this is better but I need to
still get control. I don't know how Skinny Cows rate for nutrition.
(G)

For some reason I gravitate towards the salty stuff at night for
snacks.
Not
a good thing. We had bought pretzals for my daughters birthday party
and
I
had been eating them one handful at a time. I threw the bag away
yesterday
as it was the only way to stop me from finishing the bag.

Skinny cows are my dessert most nights. The snacking goes on around
8-9pm
mostly because I have points left over. I've started to stop worrying
about
finishing up my points. I don't need any extra stress in my life right
now.


And now that I made a doc's appt for next week, I will have to
fast
for 12 hours (checking total blood cholesterol levels) in the
evening
- that should help (G)

Thanks. Yes, I hope to keep the lifetime books coming and always
under goal (fingers crossed)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:43:36 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Good thing your leader was there ready with some perspective.
You've
been steadily maintaining that clothes cushion since meeting
your
personal goal. Have you even once gotten to 160?

Congrats Fred on filling your 1st of many lifetime books.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:44:02 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, no messing around as I'm too depressed to fool around.
Actually, I'm not depressed and my leader noted that my
Lifetime
book's 26 rows (weeks) were filled and that in the main, I've
stayed
pretty much constant over those 26 weeks and that's damn near
half
a
year. It is HALF A YEAR. And it is really more than half a
year
since there were a number of missed weeks in there. And today
I've
also filled up my first Lifetime booklet.

So without much further ado (Lesanne is now gnawing the bones
of
that
fried fish):

Gain: 1.2
Current: 158.8

Fred
219.2/158.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:09:17 -0000, "krys"
wrote:

The tongue is back to being a tongue, ta for asking. Albeit with a metal
bar through it! *grin* I've had the next smaller size put in, and am back
to eating solid food - tad tricky sometimes, but I'm getting there. My
speech is no longer affected - and now, if I don't tell you I've had it
done, you can't tell, it's that discreet It's still a bit ouchy, but
it's getting better all the time......

What does your hubby think of it? Mine would freak. He thinks the
belly ring is bad enough...lol...
--
Erin in NZ
125/89/75 kgs
275.3/196/165 lbs

RafL goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos)

"It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves"
Sir Edmund Hilary

ooh, hubby is well used to me by now!
if you check out http://www.ukbodyart.org/people/krys/index.html - you'll
see that is by no means my first excursion into the world of bodyart
Which reminds me - I really must get this updated! *grin*

guess i'm just lucky that he's so supportive.....

and I hear there can be "benefits" to the tongue thing.......... which may
be swinging it for him!
(though it's way too early to be testing any of those theories out!)

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001
....definitely making progress...

"Erin Marsh" wrote in message
. co.nz...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:09:17 -0000, "krys"
wrote:

The tongue is back to being a tongue, ta for asking. Albeit with a metal
bar through it! *grin* I've had the next smaller size put in, and am
back
to eating solid food - tad tricky sometimes, but I'm getting there. My
speech is no longer affected - and now, if I don't tell you I've had it
done, you can't tell, it's that discreet It's still a bit ouchy, but
it's getting better all the time......

What does your hubby think of it? Mine would freak. He thinks the
belly ring is bad enough...lol...
--
Erin in NZ
125/89/75 kgs
275.3/196/165 lbs

RafL goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos)

"It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves"
Sir Edmund Hilary

*grin* indeed.
well, if I have to explain it to you......you're either too young, or too
old and shockable! LOL!

moving on......

I dunno. I wish I could explain it. It's an area of life I'm curious
about. And it's there. And why not. And having been curious for so
long....... Ever evaluated your life and thought - if I died tomorrow, what
would I regret not having done/tried? Well - there it was. Carpe Diem.
Life is too short. I try and live that way when I can.......

Tongue splitting.. Hm. Not for me. But I can see how it might be
cool........ But it doesn't involve jewellery, and I'm a girl........so no
attraction there then! *grin*

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001
....definitely making progress...

"Fred" wrote in message
...
I guess I am showing my age (g) but if it is that discreet, why
bother? (G)

Maybe I should not mention it but the newest that I've read about
(shudder) is splitting the tip of the tongue - kind of like a snake!!!
The issue there is that the authorities consider that maiming more
than just "simple" piercings.

Too old fashioned. My beard is still sometimes considered too radical
(G)

Well, piercing is not one of those things. I don't want to be shocked
- not sure that the ol' ticker can take it (G)

Well, each new tongue tip could sport its own jewelry (G)

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:00:38 -0000, "krys"
wrote:

*grin* indeed.
well, if I have to explain it to you......you're either too young, or too
old and shockable! LOL!

moving on......

I dunno. I wish I could explain it. It's an area of life I'm curious
about. And it's there. And why not. And having been curious for so
long....... Ever evaluated your life and thought - if I died tomorrow, what
would I regret not having done/tried? Well - there it was. Carpe Diem.
Life is too short. I try and live that way when I can.......

Tongue splitting.. Hm. Not for me. But I can see how it might be
cool........ But it doesn't involve jewellery, and I'm a girl........so no
attraction there then! *grin*