RAFL - Fred - Feb 18th

Okay, I will poll, right now......

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 01:49:09 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I thought I had the results figured out, now I've forgotten where we stand. G

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:00:11 -0800, Fred wrote:

Maybe. But Lesanne has already thrown my survey results off (G) Less
salty (and fatty) here.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:46:00 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Go for it! My vote is for *dropped, definitely dropped*. I tend to get more of a
craving for pickles now - maybe still the salt thing, but not the fat?

Joyce

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:20:49 -0800, Fred wrote:

I wonder if we should take a poll and see if the salty snacks have
dropped in popularity as weight has dropped?

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:05:28 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Last week hub bought a huge bagful of individual serving mini-pretzels. If I
remember correctly each bag was 50 calories total, or 1 point. I had the munchies
one evening, popped open a bag and had a few ... soon forgot that I even had them.
It took me 3 days to finish off that bag. I do occassionally get the salt
cravings, but nowhere near what I used to.

Joyce

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:49:33 -0800, Fred wrote:

That's interesting. As I think about it, I guess that I WAS a big
salty snack person, including the chips and cheeses as well as a sweet
snacker. But I am not really missing the salty ones now. There has
been a bag of pretzels both downstairs and in a drawer at work and I
have not had any for 2-3 weeks. Maybe I have licked that one. Now
the sweets are driving me more and maybe that is carbo addiction??

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:57:42 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
news:r8b83050vqjiq4ep0f71e12aorj1r64gjb@4ax .com...


On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:09:18 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Maybe but maybe not. I don't think so but my numbers are somewhat
warped by the shorts-Tshirt factor. I don't recall exactly when I
changed wardrobe but think I can figure it out. I now subtract the
clothing difference from my WI to get a shorts-Tshirt value (g)

Since the excel sheet is behind here lurking I will see if I've had
two up weeks in a row..... actually, there have been a few 3 week in a
row ups. So I guess I will not sweat this. But I do need to get
control on the snacking. But I do need to get control on the
snacking. But I do need to get control on the snacking......

This is where I fall down on the job too. My basic menu runs around 20-22
points per day and find that my last 6-8 points are "wasted" on junk food
in
the evening. I need to find better quality food for points at night. I
think
once you have a snacking habit, it is hard to break.

Well, not all my snacking is junk food - I do a lot of dried fruit.
In the old days it would have been cheese, cheese and chocolate and
potato chips along with the fruit. so this is better but I need to
still get control. I don't know how Skinny Cows rate for nutrition.
(G)

For some reason I gravitate towards the salty stuff at night for snacks. Not
a good thing. We had bought pretzals for my daughters birthday party and I
had been eating them one handful at a time. I threw the bag away yesterday
as it was the only way to stop me from finishing the bag.

Skinny cows are my dessert most nights. The snacking goes on around 8-9pm
mostly because I have points left over. I've started to stop worrying about
finishing up my points. I don't need any extra stress in my life right now.


And now that I made a doc's appt for next week, I will have to fast
for 12 hours (checking total blood cholesterol levels) in the evening
- that should help (G)

Thanks. Yes, I hope to keep the lifetime books coming and always
under goal (fingers crossed)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:43:36 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

Good thing your leader was there ready with some perspective. You've
been steadily maintaining that clothes cushion since meeting your
personal goal. Have you even once gotten to 160?

Congrats Fred on filling your 1st of many lifetime books.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:44:02 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Okay, no messing around as I'm too depressed to fool around.
Actually, I'm not depressed and my leader noted that my Lifetime
book's 26 rows (weeks) were filled and that in the main, I've stayed
pretty much constant over those 26 weeks and that's damn near half a
year. It is HALF A YEAR. And it is really more than half a year
since there were a number of missed weeks in there. And today I've
also filled up my first Lifetime booklet.

So without much further ado (Lesanne is now gnawing the bones of that
fried fish):

Gain: 1.2
Current: 158.8

Fred
219.2/158.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

you know I was concerned about the system issues since I am allergic to so
much, they don't bother me at all, but then neither does prune juice unless
I drink over 16 oz of it, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
I just can't get the things down. Like Fred, they just feel funny too me,
and
also have an adverse reaction with my system. Although, might be
something to
keep in mind for solving some systemic problems. G I do like the fat
free
pringles though, but still don't reach for them as I did in the past. I'm
one of
those persons that CAN eat one or two - and be perfectly happy.

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:23:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

I still love salty things. So I eat Wow chips.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Go for it! My vote is for *dropped, definitely dropped*. I tend to
get
more of a
craving for pickles now - maybe still the salt thing, but not the fat?

Joyce

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:20:49 -0800, Fred
wrote:

I wonder if we should take a poll and see if the salty snacks have
dropped in popularity as weight has dropped?

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:05:28 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Last week hub bought a huge bagful of individual serving
mini-pretzels.
If I
remember correctly each bag was 50 calories total, or 1 point. I had
the munchies
one evening, popped open a bag and had a few ... soon forgot that I
even
had them.
It took me 3 days to finish off that bag. I do occassionally get the
salt
cravings, but nowhere near what I used to.

Joyce

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:49:33 -0800, Fred
wrote:

That's interesting. As I think about it, I guess that I WAS a big
salty snack person, including the chips and cheeses as well as a
sweet
snacker. But I am not really missing the salty ones now. There has
been a bag of pretzels both downstairs and in a drawer at work and I
have not had any for 2-3 weeks. Maybe I have licked that one. Now
the sweets are driving me more and maybe that is carbo addiction??

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:57:42 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
m...


On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:09:18 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Maybe but maybe not. I don't think so but my numbers are
somewhat
warped by the shorts-Tshirt factor. I don't recall exactly
when
I
changed wardrobe but think I can figure it out. I now
subtract
the
clothing difference from my WI to get a shorts-Tshirt value
(g)

Since the excel sheet is behind here lurking I will see if
I've
had
two up weeks in a row..... actually, there have been a few 3
week
in a
row ups. So I guess I will not sweat this. But I do need to
get
control on the snacking. But I do need to get control on the
snacking. But I do need to get control on the snacking......

This is where I fall down on the job too. My basic menu runs
around
20-22
points per day and find that my last 6-8 points are "wasted" on
junk food
in
the evening. I need to find better quality food for points at
night. I
think
once you have a snacking habit, it is hard to break.

Well, not all my snacking is junk food - I do a lot of dried
fruit.
In the old days it would have been cheese, cheese and chocolate
and
potato chips along with the fruit. so this is better but I need
to
still get control. I don't know how Skinny Cows rate for
nutrition.
(G)

For some reason I gravitate towards the salty stuff at night for
snacks. Not
a good thing. We had bought pretzals for my daughters birthday
party
and I
had been eating them one handful at a time. I threw the bag away
yesterday
as it was the only way to stop me from finishing the bag.

Skinny cows are my dessert most nights. The snacking goes on around
8-9pm
mostly because I have points left over. I've started to stop
worrying
about
finishing up my points. I don't need any extra stress in my life
right
now.


And now that I made a doc's appt for next week, I will have to
fast
for 12 hours (checking total blood cholesterol levels) in the
evening
- that should help (G)

Thanks. Yes, I hope to keep the lifetime books coming and
always
under goal (fingers crossed)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:43:36 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Good thing your leader was there ready with some perspective.
You've
been steadily maintaining that clothes cushion since meeting
your
personal goal. Have you even once gotten to 160?

Congrats Fred on filling your 1st of many lifetime books.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:44:02 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, no messing around as I'm too depressed to fool around.
Actually, I'm not depressed and my leader noted that my
Lifetime
book's 26 rows (weeks) were filled and that in the main,
I've
stayed
pretty much constant over those 26 weeks and that's damn
near
half a
year. It is HALF A YEAR. And it is really more than half a
year
since there were a number of missed weeks in there. And
today
I've
also filled up my first Lifetime booklet.

So without much further ado (Lesanne is now gnawing the
bones
of that
fried fish):

Gain: 1.2
Current: 158.8

Fred
219.2/158.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Fat free Pringles? That sounds good. How many points per serving?

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I just can't get the things down. Like Fred, they just feel funny too me,
and
also have an adverse reaction with my system. Although, might be
something to
keep in mind for solving some systemic problems. G I do like the fat
free
pringles though, but still don't reach for them as I did in the past. I'm
one of
those persons that CAN eat one or two - and be perfectly happy.

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:23:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

I still love salty things. So I eat Wow chips.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Go for it! My vote is for *dropped, definitely dropped*. I tend to
get
more of a
craving for pickles now - maybe still the salt thing, but not the fat?

Joyce

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:20:49 -0800, Fred
wrote:

I wonder if we should take a poll and see if the salty snacks have
dropped in popularity as weight has dropped?

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:05:28 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Last week hub bought a huge bagful of individual serving
mini-pretzels.
If I
remember correctly each bag was 50 calories total, or 1 point. I had
the munchies
one evening, popped open a bag and had a few ... soon forgot that I
even
had them.
It took me 3 days to finish off that bag. I do occassionally get the
salt
cravings, but nowhere near what I used to.

Joyce

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:49:33 -0800, Fred
wrote:

That's interesting. As I think about it, I guess that I WAS a big
salty snack person, including the chips and cheeses as well as a
sweet
snacker. But I am not really missing the salty ones now. There has
been a bag of pretzels both downstairs and in a drawer at work and I
have not had any for 2-3 weeks. Maybe I have licked that one. Now
the sweets are driving me more and maybe that is carbo addiction??

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:57:42 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
m...


On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:09:18 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Maybe but maybe not. I don't think so but my numbers are
somewhat
warped by the shorts-Tshirt factor. I don't recall exactly
when
I
changed wardrobe but think I can figure it out. I now
subtract
the
clothing difference from my WI to get a shorts-Tshirt value
(g)

Since the excel sheet is behind here lurking I will see if
I've
had
two up weeks in a row..... actually, there have been a few 3
week
in a
row ups. So I guess I will not sweat this. But I do need to
get
control on the snacking. But I do need to get control on the
snacking. But I do need to get control on the snacking......

This is where I fall down on the job too. My basic menu runs
around
20-22
points per day and find that my last 6-8 points are "wasted" on
junk food
in
the evening. I need to find better quality food for points at
night. I
think
once you have a snacking habit, it is hard to break.

Well, not all my snacking is junk food - I do a lot of dried
fruit.
In the old days it would have been cheese, cheese and chocolate
and
potato chips along with the fruit. so this is better but I need
to
still get control. I don't know how Skinny Cows rate for
nutrition.
(G)

For some reason I gravitate towards the salty stuff at night for
snacks. Not
a good thing. We had bought pretzals for my daughters birthday
party
and I
had been eating them one handful at a time. I threw the bag away
yesterday
as it was the only way to stop me from finishing the bag.

Skinny cows are my dessert most nights. The snacking goes on around
8-9pm
mostly because I have points left over. I've started to stop
worrying
about
finishing up my points. I don't need any extra stress in my life
right
now.


And now that I made a doc's appt for next week, I will have to
fast
for 12 hours (checking total blood cholesterol levels) in the
evening
- that should help (G)

Thanks. Yes, I hope to keep the lifetime books coming and
always
under goal (fingers crossed)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:43:36 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Good thing your leader was there ready with some perspective.
You've
been steadily maintaining that clothes cushion since meeting
your
personal goal. Have you even once gotten to 160?

Congrats Fred on filling your 1st of many lifetime books.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:44:02 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, no messing around as I'm too depressed to fool around.
Actually, I'm not depressed and my leader noted that my
Lifetime
book's 26 rows (weeks) were filled and that in the main,
I've
stayed
pretty much constant over those 26 weeks and that's damn
near
half a
year. It is HALF A YEAR. And it is really more than half a
year
since there were a number of missed weeks in there. And
today
I've
also filled up my first Lifetime booklet.

So without much further ado (Lesanne is now gnawing the
bones
of that
fried fish):

Gain: 1.2
Current: 158.8

Fred
219.2/158.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

1 point even, per 1 oz serving (about 15 chips) ... 70calories/0g fat/2g fiber.
Now my son thinks that 1 container = 1 serving, but a tube lasts ME over a week.
G I love the things, have found sour cream and onion, and regular - but have
noticed the past few weeks they are getting harder and harder to find. Seems my
stores are now stocking reduced fat, which log in at 140 calories - much more than
I'm willing to allow.

Joyce

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 02:29:53 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

Fat free Pringles? That sounds good. How many points per serving?

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I just can't get the things down. Like Fred, they just feel funny too me,
and
also have an adverse reaction with my system. Although, might be
something to
keep in mind for solving some systemic problems. G I do like the fat
free
pringles though, but still don't reach for them as I did in the past. I'm
one of
those persons that CAN eat one or two - and be perfectly happy.

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:23:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

I still love salty things. So I eat Wow chips.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Go for it! My vote is for *dropped, definitely dropped*. I tend to
get
more of a
craving for pickles now - maybe still the salt thing, but not the fat?

Joyce

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:20:49 -0800, Fred
wrote:

I wonder if we should take a poll and see if the salty snacks have
dropped in popularity as weight has dropped?

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:05:28 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Last week hub bought a huge bagful of individual serving
mini-pretzels.
If I
remember correctly each bag was 50 calories total, or 1 point. I had
the munchies
one evening, popped open a bag and had a few ... soon forgot that I
even
had them.
It took me 3 days to finish off that bag. I do occassionally get the
salt
cravings, but nowhere near what I used to.

Joyce

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:49:33 -0800, Fred
wrote:

That's interesting. As I think about it, I guess that I WAS a big
salty snack person, including the chips and cheeses as well as a
sweet
snacker. But I am not really missing the salty ones now. There has
been a bag of pretzels both downstairs and in a drawer at work and I
have not had any for 2-3 weeks. Maybe I have licked that one. Now
the sweets are driving me more and maybe that is carbo addiction??

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:57:42 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
m...


On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:09:18 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Maybe but maybe not. I don't think so but my numbers are
somewhat
warped by the shorts-Tshirt factor. I don't recall exactly
when
I
changed wardrobe but think I can figure it out. I now
subtract
the
clothing difference from my WI to get a shorts-Tshirt value
(g)

Since the excel sheet is behind here lurking I will see if
I've
had
two up weeks in a row..... actually, there have been a few 3
week
in a
row ups. So I guess I will not sweat this. But I do need to
get
control on the snacking. But I do need to get control on the
snacking. But I do need to get control on the snacking......

This is where I fall down on the job too. My basic menu runs
around
20-22
points per day and find that my last 6-8 points are "wasted" on
junk food
in
the evening. I need to find better quality food for points at
night. I
think
once you have a snacking habit, it is hard to break.

Well, not all my snacking is junk food - I do a lot of dried
fruit.
In the old days it would have been cheese, cheese and chocolate
and
potato chips along with the fruit. so this is better but I need
to
still get control. I don't know how Skinny Cows rate for
nutrition.
(G)

For some reason I gravitate towards the salty stuff at night for
snacks. Not
a good thing. We had bought pretzals for my daughters birthday
party
and I
had been eating them one handful at a time. I threw the bag away
yesterday
as it was the only way to stop me from finishing the bag.

Skinny cows are my dessert most nights. The snacking goes on around
8-9pm
mostly because I have points left over. I've started to stop
worrying
about
finishing up my points. I don't need any extra stress in my life
right
now.


And now that I made a doc's appt for next week, I will have to
fast
for 12 hours (checking total blood cholesterol levels) in the
evening
- that should help (G)

Thanks. Yes, I hope to keep the lifetime books coming and
always
under goal (fingers crossed)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:43:36 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Good thing your leader was there ready with some perspective.
You've
been steadily maintaining that clothes cushion since meeting
your
personal goal. Have you even once gotten to 160?

Congrats Fred on filling your 1st of many lifetime books.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:44:02 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, no messing around as I'm too depressed to fool around.
Actually, I'm not depressed and my leader noted that my
Lifetime
book's 26 rows (weeks) were filled and that in the main,
I've
stayed
pretty much constant over those 26 weeks and that's damn
near
half a
year. It is HALF A YEAR. And it is really more than half a
year
since there were a number of missed weeks in there. And
today
I've
also filled up my first Lifetime booklet.

So without much further ado (Lesanne is now gnawing the
bones
of that
fried fish):

Gain: 1.2
Current: 158.8

Fred
219.2/158.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002