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Old April 16th, 2004, 03:05 AM
Luna
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last weigh-in at
Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back to what I was in
January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with likewise minute
fluctuations in measurements that are probably due to different people
measuring me in slightly different ways.

I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week, cardio
as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight days. I'm
pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've been averaging
around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.

I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at least I'm
not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I like it too.
But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight, because apparently
this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the truth I'd rather be
at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm already restricting
myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm hungry most of the
time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's not true, I
could eat less. I could force myself to eat one small salad a day and
nothing else. But what's the point? Been there, done that, hated every
minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love to pig
out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge portions
of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with being hungry when
I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach growling
loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've just
eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the rest of my
life. I have always been skeptical about people who say they don't eat a
lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and now look at me,
I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.
  #2  
Old April 16th, 2004, 03:20 AM
JC Der Koenig
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

Changing tactics is better than giving up.

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"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Luna" wrote in message
...
Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last weigh-in at
Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back to what I was in
January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with likewise minute
fluctuations in measurements that are probably due to different people
measuring me in slightly different ways.

I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week, cardio
as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight days. I'm
pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've been averaging
around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.

I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at least I'm
not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I like it too.
But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight, because

apparently
this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the truth I'd rather be
at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm already restricting
myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm hungry most of the
time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's not true, I
could eat less. I could force myself to eat one small salad a day and
nothing else. But what's the point? Been there, done that, hated every
minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love to pig
out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge

portions
of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with being hungry

when
I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach growling
loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've just
eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the rest of my
life. I have always been skeptical about people who say they don't eat a
lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and now look at me,
I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.



  #3  
Old April 16th, 2004, 03:35 AM
RT
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

Have you tried not restricting fat/calories for a few days? Really indulging
like in Induction? Past experience says you won't gain, and there's a fair
amount of evidence that suggests that it may actually boost the
"metabolism".


"Luna" wrote in message
...
Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last weigh-in at
Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back to what I was in
January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with likewise minute
fluctuations in measurements that are probably due to different people
measuring me in slightly different ways.

I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week, cardio
as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight days. I'm
pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've been averaging
around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.

I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at least I'm
not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I like it too.
But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight, because

apparently
this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the truth I'd rather be
at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm already restricting
myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm hungry most of the
time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's not true, I
could eat less. I could force myself to eat one small salad a day and
nothing else. But what's the point? Been there, done that, hated every
minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love to pig
out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge

portions
of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with being hungry

when
I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach growling
loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've just
eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the rest of my
life. I have always been skeptical about people who say they don't eat a
lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and now look at me,
I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.



  #4  
Old April 16th, 2004, 03:37 AM
Nani
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

Luna wrote:
Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last
weigh-in at Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back
to what I was in January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156,
with likewise minute fluctuations in measurements that are probably
due to different people measuring me in slightly different ways.

I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week,
cardio as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight
days. I'm pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've
been averaging around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.

I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at least
I'm not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I
like it too. But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight,
because apparently this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you
the truth I'd rather be at this weight forever than eat any less,
because I'm already restricting myself enough so that it's a pain in
the butt and I'm hungry most of the time. I've butched up about as
much as I can. No, that's not true, I could eat less. I could force
myself to eat one small salad a day and nothing else. But what's the
point? Been there, done that, hated every minute of it way more than
I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love to pig out more than I hate
being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge portions of stuff, it's
about how I don't think I could stick with being hungry when I go to
bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach growling
loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've
just eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the
rest of my life. I have always been skeptical about people who say
they don't eat a lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight,
and now look at me, I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. ****
it.


I agree with JC. *strange shivery feeling* Changing tactics might push your
body onto a different track.

--
Nani


  #5  
Old April 16th, 2004, 03:46 AM
Luna
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

Ok, fine. Maybe I should try eating more and exercising less? Or maybe I
should try . . . what? Voo-doo? Diet pills? Praying? It's just one more
pointless, stupid endeavor in the pointless, stupid life of a pointless,
stupid person in a pointless, stupid world.

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Changing tactics is better than giving up.

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Luna" wrote in message
...
Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last weigh-in at
Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back to what I was in
January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with likewise minute
fluctuations in measurements that are probably due to different people
measuring me in slightly different ways.

I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week, cardio
as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight days. I'm
pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've been averaging
around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.

I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at least I'm
not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I like it too.
But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight, because

apparently
this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the truth I'd rather be
at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm already restricting
myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm hungry most of the
time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's not true, I
could eat less. I could force myself to eat one small salad a day and
nothing else. But what's the point? Been there, done that, hated every
minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love to pig
out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge

portions
of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with being hungry

when
I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach growling
loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've just
eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the rest of my
life. I have always been skeptical about people who say they don't eat a
lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and now look at me,
I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.


--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.
  #6  
Old April 16th, 2004, 03:51 AM
Nani
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

Luna wrote:
Ok, fine. Maybe I should try eating more and exercising less? Or
maybe I should try . . . what? Voo-doo? Diet pills? Praying? It's
just one more pointless, stupid endeavor in the pointless, stupid
life of a pointless, stupid person in a pointless, stupid world.

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Changing tactics is better than giving up.

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


Maybe a stiff drink and a little vacation? Relaxation and meditation - or
find something to beat the hell out of??

--
Nani


  #7  
Old April 16th, 2004, 04:03 AM
JC Der Koenig
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

Try eating zero fat for a few days while maintaining your weight (you'll
probably have to go with fairly low calories), then switch back to low carb.

Or try the diet pills.

Or give up.

Whatever.

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Luna" wrote in message
...
Ok, fine. Maybe I should try eating more and exercising less? Or maybe I
should try . . . what? Voo-doo? Diet pills? Praying? It's just one more
pointless, stupid endeavor in the pointless, stupid life of a pointless,
stupid person in a pointless, stupid world.

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Changing tactics is better than giving up.

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Luna" wrote in message
...
Well, I _thought_ I'd broken my stall, but I went for my last weigh-in

at
Curves today, and I was down a half pound. Which is back to what I

was in
January. I go from 156 to 156.5 and back to 156, with likewise minute
fluctuations in measurements that are probably due to different people
measuring me in slightly different ways.

I've been working out 5 - 6 days a week, weight lifting 3x a week,

cardio
as a warm up on weight days, and more cardio on non-weight days. I'm
pushing myself as hard as I can on the working out. I've been

averaging
around 1200 calories a day, about 30g of carbs a day.

I'm NOT giving up on low-carb. I like eating this way, and at least

I'm
not gaining. I'm not giving up on exercise either, because I like it

too.
But I guess I need to give up on losing any more weight, because

apparently
this is where my body wants to be, and to tell you the truth I'd

rather be
at this weight forever than eat any less, because I'm already

restricting
myself enough so that it's a pain in the butt and I'm hungry most of

the
time. I've butched up about as much as I can. No, that's not true, I
could eat less. I could force myself to eat one small salad a day and
nothing else. But what's the point? Been there, done that, hated

every
minute of it way more than I hate being fat. I'm not saying I love to

pig
out more than I hate being fat, it's not about wanting to eat huge

portions
of stuff, it's about how I don't think I could stick with being hungry

when
I go to bed, hungry when I wake up, hungry all day long, stomach

growling
loud enough that other people can hear it, ****ed off because I've

just
eaten a hard boiled egg for lunch and I'm still hungry, for the rest

of my
life. I have always been skeptical about people who say they don't

eat a
lot and they do exercise but they can't lose weight, and now look at

me,
I've become what I ridiculed. Whatever. **** it.


--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.



  #8  
Old April 16th, 2004, 04:06 AM
The Queen of Cans and Jars
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up

Luna wrote:

Ok, fine. Maybe I should try eating more and exercising less? Or maybe I
should try . . . what? Voo-doo? Diet pills? Praying? It's just one more
pointless, stupid endeavor in the pointless, stupid life of a pointless,
stupid person in a pointless, stupid world.


yeah, *that* attitude is just the one you need to get past this!

why don't you just try being patient? you're exercising and not
overeating - let that be enough for a while.

  #10  
Old April 16th, 2004, 04:16 AM
DJ Delorie
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Default Ok, fine, whatever, I give up


Ok, where are you now then? Height, weight, %bf, goal? Have you
checked your morning temp recently (before you get up and move around
is best)? Blood pressure?

I'm at the point where I eat 1200 kcals/day AND do 500 kcals of cardio
a day AND only lose a pound or so a week. Some folks just have a hard
time at this point, you may be one of them. There are things you can
do to get past this point, but you have to try a few things to find
out what they are.

The first step, assuming you're willing to try something new, is to
find your maintenance level and "normalize" your diet. Higher carbs
(isocaloric if you can) at maintenance cals (14-16x lbm) for two
weeks. This should reset any diet-related metabolic stuff.

Next, "a change is as good as a vacation." Something like a CKD or
UD2 carb-up, or a high-calorie fat "fast", or even just a "food-up",
might kick-start your metabolism again. Some folks have to carb-up
regularly to keep their metabolism going, others just need to food-up.

Another option is to just wait. Eat at maintenance, worrying only
about not gaining, and let your body rest at its current weight for a
month or so. Then resume dieting and see what happens.
 




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