What Will My Ultimate LC Philosophy be?

On the eve of my daughter's 13th birthday, I find myself
contemplating what my ultimate LC philosophy will be. First, I am
currently thinking I will have a couple of bites of the cake, or
the world's tiniest sliver, if that is what it will amount to. (I
may very well scrape off excess frosting though--the thought is
not pleasant!) I am thinking this for a couple of reasons: 1) I
don't want her to think I am not helping her celebrate, and 2) I
am curious about the effects on me. Will a couple of bites of
cake make me feel horrible (physically)? Will a couple of bites
of cake reawaken my latent cravings for awful carb-laden and
nutritionally void things? I sort-of want to find out. I think
this is safe because I am thinking about it and planning it--not
just shoving it into my mouth.

I will also take my daughter to her favorite Chinese restaurant,
where she will down Peking noodles. (I have pretty much weaned
her off those and pahd Thai since I started LCing.) I will avoid
the obvious carby stuff--noodles, rice, wheat-laden goodies,
things with sweet (etc.) sauces. I will not avoid overtly LC
things, even though they might thicken the sauces with cornstarch
and those sauces might contain a bit of sugar. I will, however,
eat as little of those sauces as possible. I do need to think of
a WOE that will be viable for my lifetime--and not something I
cannot sustain, or something that robs me of all of my erstwhile
eating pleasures.

Sort-of relatedly, I have been getting a lot of cookbooks (right
now Chinese and low-carb) out of the library, going through them
for possible recipes that either fit this WOE or would with few
alterations--e.g., it's easy to get rid of the sugar in recipes.
I've also been going through the cookbook section at Barnes &
Noble--first looking at the low-carb/low-GI books, and now going
through the ethnic cookbooks, searching for the same things. I
must say that I am more attracted to recipes that contain REAL
food, recipes that do not go to great length to find extremely odd
substitutes. I am also leery of consuming huge quantities of
soy....

Hmmmm. I could always go through my 2000+ cookbooks and my 200+
recipe files, looking for same....
--
Jean B., 12 miles west of Boston, Massachusetts, USA

"Jean B." wrote in message ...
On the eve of my daughter's 13th birthday, I find myself
contemplating what my ultimate LC philosophy will be.

Interesting subject. After about 15 months of LC, having lost the weight I
needed to, reduced my BP meds and got my cholesterol down to 151 total, HDL
78, LDL 66, triglycerides 33, we've settled into an eating pattern that
suits us and which seems to keep things as they should be. Basically it
goes like this: most of our meals are home cooked, we use no flour, (eg
bread, cake, pasta etc.), starchy veg, (potatoes, rice peas etc.), or sugar.
We buy almost no prepared foods, an exception being ketchup, about a bottle
a year, and Penzey's soup base, (yes I know), and no "substitute" products
so the only snacks available are nuts or fruit, things like that. To the
extent possible we buy organic food, and for our main meal generally eat on
a three day cycle red meat, white meat and seafood. But, when we eat out,
perhaps three or four times a month, anything goes, including dessert, and
when we visit friends or participate in some sort of celebration we ignore
diet strictures. However our regular WOE has significantly reduced our
appetite for high carb foods, so the damage is minimal and we don't come off
as irritating and obsessive, at least not on the food front. Of course this
won't suit, or even be practicable, for everyone but it works for us.

I've heard others state that in order for a diet to change to a woe..
it has to be considered a 80/20 split.. 80 percent of the time you
follow it strictly.. 20 you are less vigilant but still mindful of
what you are eating.

My 80 /20 is still a work in progress.



On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:11:38 -0400, "Jean B." wrote:

On the eve of my daughter's 13th birthday, I find myself
contemplating what my ultimate LC philosophy will be. First, I am
currently thinking I will have a couple of bites of the cake, or
the world's tiniest sliver, if that is what it will amount to. (I
may very well scrape off excess frosting though--the thought is
not pleasant!) I am thinking this for a couple of reasons: 1) I
don't want her to think I am not helping her celebrate, and 2) I
am curious about the effects on me. Will a couple of bites of
cake make me feel horrible (physically)? Will a couple of bites
of cake reawaken my latent cravings for awful carb-laden and
nutritionally void things? I sort-of want to find out. I think
this is safe because I am thinking about it and planning it--not
just shoving it into my mouth.

I will also take my daughter to her favorite Chinese restaurant,
where she will down Peking noodles. (I have pretty much weaned
her off those and pahd Thai since I started LCing.) I will avoid
the obvious carby stuff--noodles, rice, wheat-laden goodies,
things with sweet (etc.) sauces. I will not avoid overtly LC
things, even though they might thicken the sauces with cornstarch
and those sauces might contain a bit of sugar. I will, however,
eat as little of those sauces as possible. I do need to think of
a WOE that will be viable for my lifetime--and not something I
cannot sustain, or something that robs me of all of my erstwhile
eating pleasures.

Sort-of relatedly, I have been getting a lot of cookbooks (right
now Chinese and low-carb) out of the library, going through them
for possible recipes that either fit this WOE or would with few
alterations--e.g., it's easy to get rid of the sugar in recipes.
I've also been going through the cookbook section at Barnes &
Noble--first looking at the low-carb/low-GI books, and now going
through the ethnic cookbooks, searching for the same things. I
must say that I am more attracted to recipes that contain REAL
food, recipes that do not go to great length to find extremely odd
substitutes. I am also leery of consuming huge quantities of
soy....

Hmmmm. I could always go through my 2000+ cookbooks and my 200+
recipe files, looking for same....

~Karen~
225/192/fit and fab
start Jan17/03
Started at the gym September/03

Anthony wrote:

"Jean B." wrote in message ...
On the eve of my daughter's 13th birthday, I find myself
contemplating what my ultimate LC philosophy will be.

Interesting subject. After about 15 months of LC, having lost the weight I
needed to, reduced my BP meds and got my cholesterol down to 151 total, HDL
78, LDL 66, triglycerides 33, we've settled into an eating pattern that
suits us and which seems to keep things as they should be. Basically it
goes like this: most of our meals are home cooked, we use no flour, (eg
bread, cake, pasta etc.), starchy veg, (potatoes, rice peas etc.), or sugar.
We buy almost no prepared foods, an exception being ketchup, about a bottle
a year, and Penzey's soup base, (yes I know), and no "substitute" products
so the only snacks available are nuts or fruit, things like that. To the
extent possible we buy organic food, and for our main meal generally eat on
a three day cycle red meat, white meat and seafood. But, when we eat out,
perhaps three or four times a month, anything goes, including dessert, and
when we visit friends or participate in some sort of celebration we ignore
diet strictures. However our regular WOE has significantly reduced our
appetite for high carb foods, so the damage is minimal and we don't come off
as irritating and obsessive, at least not on the food front. Of course this
won't suit, or even be practicable, for everyone but it works for us.

I was also thinking about what happens when I eat at someone
else's house too. I THINK I would have the tiniest possible
amount of things I wouldn't otherwise eat--like a Tbsp or so, that
only out of politeness. This attitude stems from having eaten out
with someone at least two decades ago and witnessing his total
snit about a speck of something he currently did not eat in his
soup. Ack!!!!!!!!!!!

Your WOE, except when you eat out, sounds somewhat paleo....
--
Jean B., 12 miles west of Boston, Massachusetts, USA

"Jean B." wrote in message ...

Your WOE, except when you eat out, sounds somewhat paleo....
--
LOL. Yup, 'at's me!

Personally I believe that when you're a guest, unless you have a really
dangerous allergy you have a duty to eat pretty much what's on offer. Your
hosts have likely spent time, money and thought on their menu, and to have
someone being picky as a teenager is just rude!

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"Anthony" wrote:

"Jean B." wrote in message ...

Your WOE, except when you eat out, sounds somewhat paleo....
--
LOL. Yup, 'at's me!

Personally I believe that when you're a guest, unless you have a really
dangerous allergy you have a duty to eat pretty much what's on offer. Your
hosts have likely spent time, money and thought on their menu, and to have
someone being picky as a teenager is just rude!



Nope. I have a repsonsibility to not make any extra demands, but if I
choose to pass on something, that is my business. It is also my choice
to remain hungry. No wonder the US is the fattest (and getting fatter)
country on the planet. "Well, Mabel....that buffet says All-Ya-Can-Eht
so I better fulfill my responsibility."

And BTW, if you are doing this right, you should consider yourself to
have a really dangerous allergy to carbs and what they do to your life
if you eat them.

--
Wayne Crannell
Atkins+ 10/27/01
250/139

"Wayne Crannell" wrote in message
...

Nope. I have a repsonsibility to not make any extra demands, but if I
choose to pass on something, that is my business. It is also my choice
to remain hungry

Guess we were just brung up differently. Well, chacun a son gout.

Anthony wrote:

"Jean B." wrote in message ...

Your WOE, except when you eat out, sounds somewhat paleo....
--
LOL. Yup, 'at's me!

Personally I believe that when you're a guest, unless you have a really
dangerous allergy you have a duty to eat pretty much what's on offer. Your
hosts have likely spent time, money and thought on their menu, and to have
someone being picky as a teenager is just rude!

Yes, I was brought up not to be rude. The trick would be how to
not be rude but also not totally overlook one's WOE. For me,
eating the bare minimum of the carby offerings (and, of course,
not pigging out on the "good stuff") seems to be a reasonable
approach.
--
Jean B., 12 miles west of Boston, Massachusetts, USA