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You want PROOF - Here's Quackery Proof.
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You want PROOF - Here's Quackery Proof.
Jackie Patti burbled across the ether:
The troll claims to loved his wife and divorced her because she wouldn't do what he wanted - there is no way to reconcile those statements in my mind. You noticed that too. Glad I wasn't the only one. By the way, I agree with the rest of your post too. -- revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please "You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance." Edward Flaherty |
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Snip made-up story about how Normie had to divorce his wife because
she went on Atkins and refused to stop when ordered by him to do so. Damn boy. Now I actually feel sorry for you. How desperate do you have to be to start lying on this sort of scale? At least you were good for a laugh until now. Now you're just pathetic. Get some of that deprogramming you talk about. Whoever or whatever you're here crusading for (PETA, Ornish, ALF, etc.) has got their claws into you deep. Carmen |
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| | I feel sorry for you. You are so lacking in self worth that you | allowed the Atkins cult to brainwash you so far that even these facts | which I posted in black and white, right before your very eyes mean | nothing. snip the ignorant drivel | I'll never change your mind, because it's too late for you. Geez, in 90 days on Atkins my total cholesterol dropped from 232 to 188 (normal); HDL increased, LDL decreased, and triglycerides dropped dramatically from a deadly 635 to 217! I was able to get off of one of my blood pressure medications, and my liver and kidney functions both tested normal. I was diagnosed T2 diabetic two days before beginning Atkins, with a fasting blood glucose of 135 and HbA1c of 9. After 90 days on Atkins, my fasting BG dropped to 90 (perfectly normal) and my HbA1c dropped to 6.0 (normal) witih NO medications. No sign of artheriosclerosis. Oh yeah, and I've dropped 45 pounds. Hmmm, I wonder which one of these health changes it is that you suppose will do me in? Is it the reduced cholesterol? Lower triglycerices? normal blood sugars? Normal kidney/liver functions? Diabetes controlled with no meds? Moving from the BMI considered morbidly obese to just "overweight," and not far now from "normal?" Now who do you suppose I will listen to? The empirical proof that I've personally experienced that a low-carb/moderate-protein/high-fat diet is remarkably healty and life-extending for me -- or your completely ignorant blabbering based on some sort of god-knows-what hate agenda? Gee, tough choice! Troll away, follow a low-fat/high carb diet and die young, or eat healthy low-carb and enjoy a long life. Your choice. Healthily yours, -- Peter 270/224/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo |
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You know i'm actually starting to agree with you about the brainwashing
thing. I was on atkins for 3 months and yes I lost some weight, but it wasn't with out a price. Just 2 weeks ago I was in the emergency room with a morphine iv drip in my arm. Apparently my gallbladder had became mysteriously enflamed. The doctor said my liver and kidney functions were horrid. He said he's seen a couple of people come in with similar problems. He refered me to a dietician who worked with me and helped me form a healthy way of eatting that was loosly based on a diabetic diet that was well rounded and limited calories to a respectable amount. I don't care how much fat or protein keeps me from being hungry. I can deal with being hungry a few weeks until my body gets used to the lower ammount of calories. It beats the hell out of being in the hospital again. wrote in message news On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 04:36:27 GMT, "marengo" wrote: wrote: | Here PROOF - Atkins is a QUACK. This is on the web.... snip the silly propoganda I feel sorry for you. I truly do. How lonely it must be out there these days for the anti-Atkins trolls! Now that Dr. Atkins' work has been vindicated; the health benefits of controlled-carbohydrate diets proven with scientific studies; the fast food industry groing through a low-carb marketing revolution; and controlled carb eating becoming more and more accepted by even the mainstream medical communtiy. I feel sorry for you. You are so lacking in self worth that you allowed the Atkins cult to brainwash you so far that even these facts which I posted in black and white, right before your very eyes mean nothing. Oh well, it's no skin off my back. When the acids begin coming out of your pores and you smell so bad that no one wants to be around you, right before your kidneys fail, and you have your heart attack, just remember what I said, and what these websites PROVED. I suggest you read EVERY WORD of what I posted, not just the first paragraph. Did you actually read the part about Atkins heart problems and clogged arteries? (I doubt it). There are four extensive web articles posted here. Of course, I know your "type". Just like those brainwashed kids that burned to death in Waco TX, brainwashed and controlled by David Koresh, brainwashed right into their graves, you will follow Atkins right into your grave. It's the spineless types like yourself that are so easily persuaded into these fraudulant scam cults, and you will pay with your life. I'll never change your mind, because it's too late for you. Atkins is your cult leader, and no one else is right. But there are others who still have their own minds, and they may still have hope, and some of them will be saved from their own destruction. Atkins was and his messages are quackery. The truths are becoming more and more evident. Soon the fad will end, and only those like yourself will continue to rot away while your arteries clog. Your life will pass, and the rest of us will still be here trying to comprehend how people like yourself can allow some obese dead man who died from heart conditions, make you believe he's a diet guru. My final note to you. There are deprogrammers out there who can deprogram people who are consumed by a cult. I suggest you contact one of them. You need one. |
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| I have no connection to PETA, but I do have a connection to my wife of | about 20 years. Her once happy personality turned to sadness, | depression, and bitterness. | | I finally gave | her the ultimatim. Either she quits this diet, or I would ask for a | divorce. She chose the diet, I chose the divorce. | LMAO! You're surprised that she chose a diet over an obnixious jerk? The only surprise is that she didn't divorce your annoying butt sooner! Guess she was just waiting for any little excuse, and the diet was the first one that came along ... -- Peter 270/224/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo |
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*snip*
Troll away, follow a low-fat/high carb diet and die young, or eat healthy low-carb and enjoy a long life. Your choice. *end snip* You sound almost as bad as he does. Just because it worked for you doesnt mean it's the end all diet for everyone else in the world. |
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Hi,
On 7-Apr-2004, "Chrono-Z" wrote: You know i'm actually starting to agree with you about the brainwashing thing. I was on atkins for 3 months and yes I lost some weight, but it wasn't with out a price. Just 2 weeks ago I was in the emergency room with a morphine iv drip in my arm. Apparently my gallbladder had became mysteriously enflamed. The doctor said my liver and kidney functions were horrid. He said he's seen a couple of people come in with similar problems. He refered me to a dietician who worked with me and helped me form a healthy way of eatting that was loosly based on a diabetic diet that was well rounded and limited calories to a respectable amount. I don't care how much fat or protein keeps me from being hungry. I can deal with being hungry a few weeks until my body gets used to the lower ammount of calories. It beats the hell out of being in the hospital again. I hope it *was* caused by lowcarbing in your case - because then it won't come back again. If not you're going to be a hurting puppy again. Good luck and good health. Take care, Carmen |
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Chrono-Z wrote:
| *snip* | Troll away, follow a low-fat/high carb diet and die young, or eat | healthy low-carb and enjoy a long life. Your choice. | *end snip* | | You sound almost as bad as he does. Just because it worked for you | doesnt mean it's the end all diet for everyone else in the world. And you sound as much of a troll as he. -- Peter 270/224/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo |
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