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Old September 4th, 2004, 11:28 AM
Elly
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You got to understand I cant do that now as I dont have any kind of
regular eating habit that I could even begin to break down into
something like fitday. My typical day involves totally irregular eating,
all sorts of crap convenience food


You can still list it into Fitday. Logging you food will be *very* helpful,
believe me. I haven't logged my food until my GP/nutritionist recommended
it, and generally thought I was doing much better than I actually was. Even
now, with some experience gained, there are days when - calculating things
in my head - I can still be wrong, thinking I ate better than I did - Fitday
tells me that.

Elly




  #22  
Old September 4th, 2004, 11:28 AM
Elly
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"jas" ha scritto nel messaggio
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You got to understand I cant do that now as I dont have any kind of
regular eating habit that I could even begin to break down into
something like fitday. My typical day involves totally irregular eating,
all sorts of crap convenience food


You can still list it into Fitday. Logging you food will be *very* helpful,
believe me. I haven't logged my food until my GP/nutritionist recommended
it, and generally thought I was doing much better than I actually was. Even
now, with some experience gained, there are days when - calculating things
in my head - I can still be wrong, thinking I ate better than I did - Fitday
tells me that.

Elly




  #23  
Old September 4th, 2004, 04:28 PM
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"jas" wrote in message
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Packed food is fine as cals are on those but fruit and veg, how do you
get the cals for those?

If you are in the UK, Smiths sell a great magazine called "A-Z of

calories" which they reissue about quarterly and includes most UK brands and
even eating out such as Pizza Express and, for your sandwiches, Pret a
Manger. I was very pleased to learn that a Mushroom pizza is only 679
calories and since I can never eat a whole one, I get to have a couple dough
balls too!
Rachael


  #24  
Old September 4th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Rachael Reynolds
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"jas" wrote in message
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Packed food is fine as cals are on those but fruit and veg, how do you
get the cals for those?

If you are in the UK, Smiths sell a great magazine called "A-Z of

calories" which they reissue about quarterly and includes most UK brands and
even eating out such as Pizza Express and, for your sandwiches, Pret a
Manger. I was very pleased to learn that a Mushroom pizza is only 679
calories and since I can never eat a whole one, I get to have a couple dough
balls too!
Rachael


  #25  
Old September 4th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Rachael Reynolds
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"jas" wrote in message
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Packed food is fine as cals are on those but fruit and veg, how do you
get the cals for those?

If you are in the UK, Smiths sell a great magazine called "A-Z of

calories" which they reissue about quarterly and includes most UK brands and
even eating out such as Pizza Express and, for your sandwiches, Pret a
Manger. I was very pleased to learn that a Mushroom pizza is only 679
calories and since I can never eat a whole one, I get to have a couple dough
balls too!
Rachael


  #26  
Old September 4th, 2004, 08:02 PM
jmk
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Elly wrote:
"jas" ha scritto nel messaggio
. ..

You got to understand I cant do that now as I dont have any kind of
regular eating habit that I could even begin to break down into
something like fitday. My typical day involves totally irregular eating,
all sorts of crap convenience food



You can still list it into Fitday. Logging you food will be *very* helpful,
believe me. I haven't logged my food until my GP/nutritionist recommended
it, and generally thought I was doing much better than I actually was. Even
now, with some experience gained, there are days when - calculating things
in my head - I can still be wrong, thinking I ate better than I did - Fitday
tells me that.

Elly




It also helps to have that data on hand for latter use. For example,
you might find that if you have X amount of protein, you feel better or
that you need Y amount of fiber or... Anyway, I find food logging to be
helpful on several levels.

--
jmk in NC
  #27  
Old September 4th, 2004, 08:02 PM
jmk
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Elly wrote:
"jas" ha scritto nel messaggio
. ..

You got to understand I cant do that now as I dont have any kind of
regular eating habit that I could even begin to break down into
something like fitday. My typical day involves totally irregular eating,
all sorts of crap convenience food



You can still list it into Fitday. Logging you food will be *very* helpful,
believe me. I haven't logged my food until my GP/nutritionist recommended
it, and generally thought I was doing much better than I actually was. Even
now, with some experience gained, there are days when - calculating things
in my head - I can still be wrong, thinking I ate better than I did - Fitday
tells me that.

Elly




It also helps to have that data on hand for latter use. For example,
you might find that if you have X amount of protein, you feel better or
that you need Y amount of fiber or... Anyway, I find food logging to be
helpful on several levels.

--
jmk in NC
  #28  
Old September 4th, 2004, 10:11 PM
Cplus
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"jas" wrote in message
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In contrary to the posts you've gotten, here's one that agrees with you.


right, ive done the first weigh in before i started yesterday and I was
spot on, I weigh 350 pounds or 25 stone to us ole brits!

I started eating breakfast, lunch and dinner yesterday and will continue
on with that to get more regular meals. Take today for example:-

Breakfast: 1 Bowl Muesli and Milk - Dont know cals but it was a heaped
bowl and i'll get some scales this weekend so I can weigh the stuff and
try and get the right amount and measure the milk, etc. The muesli was
Alpen 'No added sugar' type and I added some splenda granules to sweeten
it up a bit.

Lunch: 2 * Salmon and Cucumber sandwiches on brown bread - cals for
these were 266 cals per pack, I had 2 packs and a largish banana.

Packed food is fine as cals are on those but fruit and veg, how do you
get the cals for those?

Anyway ... its interesting looking at the different cals as I would
normally have had the tuna/mayo sandwiche but these were 500 cals per
pack whereas the salmon/cucumber were only 266 per pack so I had 2 of
the salmon rather than 1 of the tuna and was just as nice.

I am generally drinking plenty of either water, water with a little
orange cordial or pepsi max (the sugarless almost calorie free type
cola).

So, at the moment it looks like ill probably end up trying for something
close to:-

Breakfast: 400
Lunch: 800
Dinner: 1000
snacks: 300 *

* ill prob keep these snacks for the evening as thats when i have the
munchies normally. i'll probably stick to apples and bananas as they are
the only fruit i tend to eat and will look around for some nutitious
bars, etc although its probably better i dont get those because its the
sort of thing if i have a bad day i could wolf them all down quite
easily, with fruit it wouldnt happen.

at 2500 cals per day with regular meals ill soon find out if it gives me
enough energy, etc and any weight loss. im in no rush to lose, just want
to get on an even keel with everything. im going to get some swimming
and walking in this weekend too - i might up the cals a little on days
with exercise, will try it on 2500 and see how i feel.

anyway, ive started and I feel good for actually starting it even though
ive started lots of times before this time feels right.

350/350/210

my first goal is to break 300, no time scale, just nice n steady.

Congratulations on a great first day!!

For veggie counts I have a book of food counts. I prefer the book because
then I don't have to log on to find out how much something is. Although by
now I've pretty much got most of the calories for my normal food in my head
or rough counts anyhow. If you like to log on though try the sites listed
by Chris.


  #29  
Old September 4th, 2004, 10:11 PM
Cplus
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"jas" wrote in message
. ..
In contrary to the posts you've gotten, here's one that agrees with you.


right, ive done the first weigh in before i started yesterday and I was
spot on, I weigh 350 pounds or 25 stone to us ole brits!

I started eating breakfast, lunch and dinner yesterday and will continue
on with that to get more regular meals. Take today for example:-

Breakfast: 1 Bowl Muesli and Milk - Dont know cals but it was a heaped
bowl and i'll get some scales this weekend so I can weigh the stuff and
try and get the right amount and measure the milk, etc. The muesli was
Alpen 'No added sugar' type and I added some splenda granules to sweeten
it up a bit.

Lunch: 2 * Salmon and Cucumber sandwiches on brown bread - cals for
these were 266 cals per pack, I had 2 packs and a largish banana.

Packed food is fine as cals are on those but fruit and veg, how do you
get the cals for those?

Anyway ... its interesting looking at the different cals as I would
normally have had the tuna/mayo sandwiche but these were 500 cals per
pack whereas the salmon/cucumber were only 266 per pack so I had 2 of
the salmon rather than 1 of the tuna and was just as nice.

I am generally drinking plenty of either water, water with a little
orange cordial or pepsi max (the sugarless almost calorie free type
cola).

So, at the moment it looks like ill probably end up trying for something
close to:-

Breakfast: 400
Lunch: 800
Dinner: 1000
snacks: 300 *

* ill prob keep these snacks for the evening as thats when i have the
munchies normally. i'll probably stick to apples and bananas as they are
the only fruit i tend to eat and will look around for some nutitious
bars, etc although its probably better i dont get those because its the
sort of thing if i have a bad day i could wolf them all down quite
easily, with fruit it wouldnt happen.

at 2500 cals per day with regular meals ill soon find out if it gives me
enough energy, etc and any weight loss. im in no rush to lose, just want
to get on an even keel with everything. im going to get some swimming
and walking in this weekend too - i might up the cals a little on days
with exercise, will try it on 2500 and see how i feel.

anyway, ive started and I feel good for actually starting it even though
ive started lots of times before this time feels right.

350/350/210

my first goal is to break 300, no time scale, just nice n steady.

Congratulations on a great first day!!

For veggie counts I have a book of food counts. I prefer the book because
then I don't have to log on to find out how much something is. Although by
now I've pretty much got most of the calories for my normal food in my head
or rough counts anyhow. If you like to log on though try the sites listed
by Chris.


  #30  
Old September 4th, 2004, 10:11 PM
Cplus
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"jas" wrote in message
. ..
In contrary to the posts you've gotten, here's one that agrees with you.


right, ive done the first weigh in before i started yesterday and I was
spot on, I weigh 350 pounds or 25 stone to us ole brits!

I started eating breakfast, lunch and dinner yesterday and will continue
on with that to get more regular meals. Take today for example:-

Breakfast: 1 Bowl Muesli and Milk - Dont know cals but it was a heaped
bowl and i'll get some scales this weekend so I can weigh the stuff and
try and get the right amount and measure the milk, etc. The muesli was
Alpen 'No added sugar' type and I added some splenda granules to sweeten
it up a bit.

Lunch: 2 * Salmon and Cucumber sandwiches on brown bread - cals for
these were 266 cals per pack, I had 2 packs and a largish banana.

Packed food is fine as cals are on those but fruit and veg, how do you
get the cals for those?

Anyway ... its interesting looking at the different cals as I would
normally have had the tuna/mayo sandwiche but these were 500 cals per
pack whereas the salmon/cucumber were only 266 per pack so I had 2 of
the salmon rather than 1 of the tuna and was just as nice.

I am generally drinking plenty of either water, water with a little
orange cordial or pepsi max (the sugarless almost calorie free type
cola).

So, at the moment it looks like ill probably end up trying for something
close to:-

Breakfast: 400
Lunch: 800
Dinner: 1000
snacks: 300 *

* ill prob keep these snacks for the evening as thats when i have the
munchies normally. i'll probably stick to apples and bananas as they are
the only fruit i tend to eat and will look around for some nutitious
bars, etc although its probably better i dont get those because its the
sort of thing if i have a bad day i could wolf them all down quite
easily, with fruit it wouldnt happen.

at 2500 cals per day with regular meals ill soon find out if it gives me
enough energy, etc and any weight loss. im in no rush to lose, just want
to get on an even keel with everything. im going to get some swimming
and walking in this weekend too - i might up the cals a little on days
with exercise, will try it on 2500 and see how i feel.

anyway, ive started and I feel good for actually starting it even though
ive started lots of times before this time feels right.

350/350/210

my first goal is to break 300, no time scale, just nice n steady.

Congratulations on a great first day!!

For veggie counts I have a book of food counts. I prefer the book because
then I don't have to log on to find out how much something is. Although by
now I've pretty much got most of the calories for my normal food in my head
or rough counts anyhow. If you like to log on though try the sites listed
by Chris.


 




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