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Old July 2nd, 2007, 03:58 PM posted to alt.support.diet
cqmman
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I sometimes weight myself right before I go to bed, and then in the
morning. The weird think I have noticed is that I can actally lose
1/2kg or more overnight. Yes, I may pee during that time, but surely
that does not account for the rest of it. I suppose it is do with
water retention, and some also goes as sweat, but it does seem a
staggering amount.

Is that normal? I am not concerned, just more surprised really. Oh, I
way about 71kg (for % purposes).

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Old July 2nd, 2007, 09:02 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Doug Freyburger
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cqmman wrote:

I sometimes weight myself right before I go to bed, and then in the
morning. The weird think I have noticed is that I can actally lose
1/2kg or more overnight. Yes, I may pee during that time, but surely
that does not account for the rest of it. I suppose it is do with
water retention, and some also goes as sweat, but it does seem a
staggering amount.

Is that normal? I am not concerned, just more surprised really. Oh, I
way about 71kg (for % purposes).


That's the difference between real information and noise
in the numbers. Strange as it may seem when looking at the
numbers on the scale fat is not water and water is not fat,
but both react to gravity. Water comes and goes very rapidly
as you have seen. Fat comes and goes very slowly.

So now you know that the numbers on the scale can't have
meaning in such a small time scale, stop weighing more than
once per day. Educational experience that you never need to
repeat.

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Old July 3rd, 2007, 09:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On 2 Jul, 21:02, Doug Freyburger wrote:

That's the difference between real information and noise
in the numbers. Strange as it may seem when looking at the
numbers on the scale fat is not water and water is not fat,
but both react to gravity. Water comes and goes very rapidly
as you have seen. Fat comes and goes very slowly.

So now you know that the numbers on the scale can't have
meaning in such a small time scale, stop weighing more than
once per day. Educational experience that you never need to
repeat.



Thanks, yeah I understand that it is water content, but was very
surprised that it was so much. Also surprising since I am sure I read
that it is better to weigh yourself in the evening. Really, it seems
that the morning is a better time..

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Old July 3rd, 2007, 10:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Doug Freyburger
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cqmman wrote:

Thanks, yeah I understand that it is water content, but was very
surprised that it was so much.


I sweat at night. Not profusely usually but it's still 8ish
hours of it without waking up to drink water. I never go
8ish hours without water while awake.

Also surprising since I am sure I read
that it is better to weigh yourself in the evening. Really, it seems
that the morning is a better time..


To me the best time is when there's the least variation not
the lowest number. Morning after the bathroom seems the
least variation. Not so little variation that today's number
actually means anything, but little enough that putting it
into a weekly average formula does mean something.

How often to weigh - If you get upset from looking at the
scale reading work on your emotional issues before getting
on the scale next. Beyond that weekly or less seems okay
early on to keep expectations realistic by not weighing often.
Later as you approach maintenance frequency needs to
change - The goal in maintenance is to stay below some
number so weigh daily or weekly to catch any regain. Very
subjective since the whole thing changes with context.

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Old July 4th, 2007, 03:44 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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"cqmman" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 2 Jul, 21:02, Doug Freyburger wrote:

That's the difference between real information and noise
in the numbers. Strange as it may seem when looking at the
numbers on the scale fat is not water and water is not fat,
but both react to gravity. Water comes and goes very rapidly
as you have seen. Fat comes and goes very slowly.

So now you know that the numbers on the scale can't have
meaning in such a small time scale, stop weighing more than
once per day. Educational experience that you never need to
repeat.



Thanks, yeah I understand that it is water content, but was very
surprised that it was so much. Also surprising since I am sure I read
that it is better to weigh yourself in the evening. Really, it seems
that the morning is a better time..


Don't know where you heard that evening is better... I have always heard
morning. It is the time of day when you are least likely to have a false
reading due to eating a large meal, too much salt (reflected in water
retention), etc.


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Old July 4th, 2007, 04:23 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On 4 Jul, 03:44, "determined" wrote:


Don't know where you heard that evening is better... I have always heard
morning. It is the time of day when you are least likely to have a false
reading due to eating a large meal, too much salt (reflected in water
retention), etc



I think on the scales themselves (well instructions)...

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Old July 6th, 2007, 04:48 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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"cqmman" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 4 Jul, 03:44, "determined" wrote:


Don't know where you heard that evening is better... I have always heard
morning. It is the time of day when you are least likely to have a false
reading due to eating a large meal, too much salt (reflected in water
retention), etc



I think on the scales themselves (well instructions)...


The Tanita bodyfat scale seems to give a more accurate bf reading in the
evening, so I use the bf reading at night and the weight in the morning.


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Old July 9th, 2007, 07:52 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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For what its worth, I (bought a scale and) weighed myself every day for a
week. I don't think the daily averages mean much. I did cheat twice,
significantly, over the long weekend, and I assume that's why I didn't lose
much.

The day-to-day thing is interesting, though. All morning weigh-ins, fresh
out of the shower, about the same time of day. I "lost" five pounds on
Saturday night ;-) Five pounds variation from day-to-day isn't unusual for
me.

More significantly, my belt went in one more notch today. I'm on the last
notch now, so I have to take it into the shoe repair place and have the
buckle moved in a bit.

Here are the day-to-day fluctuations:

255 (7/1)
256.5
257
258.5
257.5
258.5
259.5
254.5 (7/8)



"cqmman" wrote in message
ups.com...
I sometimes weight myself right before I go to bed, and then in the
morning. The weird think I have noticed is that I can actally lose
1/2kg or more overnight. Yes, I may pee during that time, but surely
that does not account for the rest of it. I suppose it is do with
water retention, and some also goes as sweat, but it does seem a
staggering amount.

Is that normal? I am not concerned, just more surprised really. Oh, I
way about 71kg (for % purposes).


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Old July 9th, 2007, 06:05 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Bill Eitner[_2_]
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I agree. 1/2kg isn't all that much; it's about
a pint of water. Water is relatively heavy.
Hydration (body water) level can be accounted
for, but it's generally more effort than it's
worth for a normal dieter. You can measure
liquid input and urine output as well as dietary
factors such as sodium and carbohydrate. After
that all that's left is water lost through activity.
There's no easy way to measure that other than
indirectly by noting activity levels that are
above or below what constitutes an average day.

Daily weigh-ins are interesting in that they
provide food for thought in that one can try
to figure out what exactly caused a particular
significant fluctuation if there was one.
It's the weekly weigh-ins where as many variables
as possible are kept constant over at least a
month that are the most valuable. Further, it's
best to combine bodyweight with some other measure
like skin folds, body part circumferences (tape
measure measurements) or bioelectric impedance
bodyfat tests in order to paint a more comprehensive
picture.

em wrote:
For what its worth, I (bought a scale and) weighed myself every day for
a week. I don't think the daily averages mean much. I did cheat twice,
significantly, over the long weekend, and I assume that's why I didn't
lose much.

The day-to-day thing is interesting, though. All morning weigh-ins,
fresh out of the shower, about the same time of day. I "lost" five
pounds on Saturday night ;-) Five pounds variation from day-to-day isn't
unusual for me.

More significantly, my belt went in one more notch today. I'm on the
last notch now, so I have to take it into the shoe repair place and have
the buckle moved in a bit.

Here are the day-to-day fluctuations:

255 (7/1)
256.5
257
258.5
257.5
258.5
259.5
254.5 (7/8)



"cqmman" wrote in message
ups.com...
I sometimes weight myself right before I go to bed, and then in the
morning. The weird think I have noticed is that I can actally lose
1/2kg or more overnight. Yes, I may pee during that time, but surely
that does not account for the rest of it. I suppose it is do with
water retention, and some also goes as sweat, but it does seem a
staggering amount.

Is that normal? I am not concerned, just more surprised really. Oh, I
way about 71kg (for % purposes).


 




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