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How To Lower Cholesterol on Low-Carb Diet?
jay wrote:
When we eat excess fats, how is it stored? It's stored as new fat but there's something that you're missing - While low carbing it takes a vast amount of extra dietary fat to force new storage. While low carbing it's easy to eat fewer calories and lose stored fat because there are neither carb cravings nor fat cravings. While low carbing it is also easy to eat enough to not lose anything. Calories do matter. While low carbing there are several reasons why it is difficult to eat so much fat that new fat gets added to the body's store. If the amount eaten exceeds that which we can burn, does the body package the extra in LDLs and this shows up in the blood test? If you are forcing new fat into storage your triglycerides will be high. Reason one - While low carbing fat tends to turn off the appetite for fat. This is something many find hard to believe so I recommand that you try it some time. First do it in your imagination. A stick of butter plus the same amount of flour and sugar is a batch of cookies. Some of us might not be able to stop if we start eating it. A stick of butter straight is a completely different thought. Imagine eating a stick of butter straight. Then imagine doing it daily for a week. Next do it in actual practice. Figure out how many calories you have for breakfast most days. Then find a type of liquid oil you find pleasant and figure out how much volume it takes for that many calories. For me it came out roughly a fluid ounce or a shot glass. Now drink that as your breakfast each day. Nothing else just the oil so there's no net change in your calories. Feel free to chase it with calorie free liquid that is not sweetened in any way so you don't get the cookie effect. When I did this I had a coffee. In my experience the first day was fine. The second day I didn't look forward to it but I drank it. As each day past my reaction got stronger and stronger. Within a week I couldn't even swallow it by holding my nose. It is really true that in the absence of carbs fat turns down the appetite for fat. It's self limiting. Reason two - While on a ketotic diet or other low carb system the insulin level in the blood is low. Insulin moves fat into storage. With low insulin there's no hormone pushing fat into storage. it will not flow that direction without being forced by an overdose, but that does not happen because of what I described as reason one. Glucagon moves fat out of storage. While eating low carb the higher the percentage of dietary fat relative to dietary protein the higher the glucagon level in the blood. Increasing dietary fat literalling increases the pressure the hormonal pressure to move fat out of storage. So what if you eat extra protein to mask the effect of fat to be able to move it into storage? That's why every low carb plan out there mentions portion control. You can do it, but on a properly executed low carb plan there's no hunger so there's no physical drive to do it. It becomes easy to decide to not overeat. That's one of the biggest miracles of low carbing - There's no physical drive to overeat. |
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Low-carb diets have already been shown to bring about weight loss but the new trial suggests that they could also have an additional benefit for obese people by cutting heart disease risk through reducing inflammation. |
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How To Lower Cholesterol on Low-Carb Diet?
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:23:49 +0000, kennyjoyy
wrote: Low-carb diets have already been shown to bring about weight loss but the new trial suggests that they could also have an additional benefit for obese people by cutting heart disease risk through reducing inflammation. My cholesterol improved when I became more rigorous about counting carbs -- good chol up, bad chol down. I eat lots of high-fat stuff, and I don't count calories. Oh, and I lost six inches off my hips. ?;^) I do have a friend who had to stop low-carbing because of her cholesterol readings, so I guess it has different effects on different people. It's not an across-the-board thing. -- We are becoming a country that believes the rich have earned their money but the well educated have not earned their intellectual superiority. This leads to a nation that idolizes Kardashians. Joel Stein, TIME, 8/23/10 |
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How To Lower Cholesterol on Low-Carb Diet?
Not necessarily different people, perhaps different timing. It's my
understanding that it tends to go up at first, then come down after a few months. Not that it really matters, anyway, as there is current research showing cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks. It's inflammation that triggers deposits. Patricia Martin Steward wrote: | | My cholesterol improved when I became more rigorous about counting | carbs -- good chol up, bad chol down. I eat lots of high-fat stuff, | and I don't count calories. Oh, and I lost six inches off my hips. | ?;^) | | I do have a friend who had to stop low-carbing because of her | cholesterol readings, so I guess it has different effects on different | people. It's not an across-the-board thing. |
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How To Lower Cholesterol on Low-Carb Diet?
On Sep 18, 10:11*am, "FOB" wrote:
Not necessarily different people, perhaps different timing. *It's my understanding that it tends to go up at first, then come down after a few months. *Not that it really matters, anyway, as there is current research showing cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks. *It's inflammation that triggers deposits. Patricia Martin Steward wrote: | | My cholesterol improved when I became more rigorous about counting | carbs -- good chol up, bad chol down. *I eat lots of high-fat stuff, | and I don't count calories. *Oh, and I lost six inches off my hips. | ?;^) | | I do have a friend who had to stop low-carbing because of her | cholesterol readings, so I guess it has different effects on different | people. *It's not an across-the-board thing. Also it would be interesting to know the actual numbers before starting LC, how long she was on, etc. The statement " A friend had to stop LC because of her cholesterol readings" could mean a lot of things. Including just telling a Dr they were doing LC and the Dr telling them that with their chol history, LC was going to make it worse. |
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How To Lower Cholesterol on Low-Carb Diet?
FOB (removethis) wrote:
Not necessarily different people, perhaps different timing. It's my understanding that it tends to go up at first, then come down after a few months. Not that it really matters, anyway, as there is current research showing cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks. It's inflammation that triggers deposits. The 1993/1999 editions of the Atkins book claimed that by 6 months in about 80% of folks see better cholesterol numbers. The 2002 edition claimed that by 2 months in "most" see better cholesterol numbers. So it's not a sure thing that low carbing will cause improvement, but it is a sure thing that you need to wait half a year before the tests start to actually mean anything because of how the numbers go in the first few weeks. Patience. |
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How To Lower Cholesterol on Low-Carb Diet?
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Doug Freyburger wrote: FOB (removethis) wrote: Not necessarily different people, perhaps different timing. It's my understanding that it tends to go up at first, then come down after a few months. Not that it really matters, anyway, as there is current research showing cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks. It's inflammation that triggers deposits. The 1993/1999 editions of the Atkins book claimed that by 6 months in about 80% of folks see better cholesterol numbers. The 2002 edition claimed that by 2 months in "most" see better cholesterol numbers. So it's not a sure thing that low carbing will cause improvement, but it is a sure thing that you need to wait half a year before the tests start to actually mean anything because of how the numbers go in the first few weeks. Patience. My understanding is that LDLs and HDLs will go up on a low-card diet. THe thing is that the principal indicators for CVD are high "Very Low Density Lipids" (VLDL) and low HDL. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html |
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How To Lower Cholesterol on Low-Carb Diet?
On Sep 19, 1:54*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
FOB (removethis) wrote: Not necessarily different people, perhaps different timing. *It's my understanding that it tends to go up at first, then come down after a few months. *Not that it really matters, anyway, as there is current research showing cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks. *It's inflammation that triggers deposits. The 1993/1999 editions of the Atkins book claimed that by 6 months in about 80% of folks see better cholesterol numbers. *The 2002 edition claimed that by 2 months in "most" see better cholesterol numbers. So it's not a sure thing that low carbing will cause improvement, but it is a sure thing that you need to wait half a year before the tests start to actually mean anything because of how the numbers go in the first few weeks. *Patience. The statements attributed to Atkins above obviously refute your conclusion. |
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